Seen they've released the plans for this -
https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/wp...rategy.pdf
Thank god the Consett line is dead and buried. Nothing really stupid as usual bar the Cobalt link which I don't see the point when the 19 is failing as it is. Nice to see the Doxford Park and West End lines are back on with a service running along the ECML via Dunston towards the Metro Centre.
Pah I believe it when I see it.
Report neglects to mention freight operator GB Railfreight who runs Biomass trains from Tyne Dock to Lynemouth and Drax Power Stations.
As for the route extensions, the only one I can see operational by 2035 is the Ashington line, and possibly work started on reinstating the Leamside Line.
It's just another report into a transport network that isn't fit for purpose, proposing things that either won't come to fruition or will barely make a difference.
The report states that 76% of North East workers were opting to drive to work by car in 2019, not only is this an unsurprisingly high number, it's disgraceful from every transport organisation in the region that the needs of so many people aren't being met by their services.
(16 Feb 2022, 12:20 am)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]Pah I believe it when I see it.
Report neglects to mention freight operator GB Railfreight who runs Biomass trains from Tyne Dock to Lynemouth and Drax Power Stations.
As for the route extensions, the only one I can see operational by 2035 is the Ashington line, and possibly work started on reinstating the Leamside Line.
I suspect that work on reopening the Leamside line will start as soon as work on the Northumberland line is complete, provided that there is a single north east Combined Authority and an elected mayor.
(16 Feb 2022, 6:09 am)omnicity4659 wrote [ -> ]It's just another report into a transport network that isn't fit for purpose, proposing things that either won't come to fruition or will barely make a difference.
The report states that 76% of North East workers were opting to drive to work by car in 2019, not only is this an unsurprisingly high number, it's disgraceful from every transport organisation in the region that the needs of so many people aren't being met by their services.
But, but, but bus lanes and priority measures. Tables, WiFi and titivating. That's what gets people on buses
It really is a sad state of affairs when more than 3/4 of the working population chose to drive to work in 2019, rather than use public transport.
Looks like a rehash of Project Orpheus, which is all these plans essentially offer. Perhaps it's time to draw a bold new plan instead of one which hasn't gained traction (or the funding) in the past? It's almost like a Ray Stenning design.
(16 Feb 2022, 8:27 am)busmanT wrote [ -> ]I suspect that work on reopening the Leamside line will start as soon as work on the Northumberland line is complete, provided that there is a single north east Combined Authority and an elected mayor.
I really hope something comes of the Leamside Line. I also really hope that bus and train operators work together on both lines, integrating and improving their offer - rather than compete.
The introduction of the train times aboard the GNE fleet is a positive. Just a shame its likely to show wait times of 45mins or so in Seaham when rolled out on to the 71.
(15 Feb 2022, 9:49 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Seen they've released the plans for this - https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/wp...rategy.pdf
Thank god the Consett line is dead and buried. Nothing really stupid as usual bar the Cobalt link which I don't see the point when the 19 is failing as it is. Nice to see the Doxford Park and West End lines are back on with a service running along the ECML via Dunston towards the Metro Centre.
DCC have thrown money towards the Government conducting a feasibility study on the Consett options:
https://www.durham.gov.uk/consettrail
They're expecting a response by Spring / Summer 2022.
(16 Feb 2022, 8:27 am)busmanT wrote [ -> ]I suspect that work on reopening the Leamside line will start as soon as work on the Northumberland line is complete, provided that there is a single north east Combined Authority and an elected mayor.
That is of course the carrot that is being repeatedly dangled, but the curveball now is that Durham County Council have been invited to take forward proposals for County devolution. I'd imagine that depending on how that is planned to work, it could have consequences for a wider North East (LA7) devolution deal.
Interesting that the Metro extension is staying, with the trains going on via the Bensham curve ,Birtley, Ouston and Chester-le-Street. Conflicting maps, one shows the extension from St. James, the other from Central..
following on from discussion on another thread something that stood out for me in one of the tables is that those quizzed thought transport being frequent and safe was more important than clean and comfortable
(17 Feb 2022, 10:54 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]following on from discussion on another thread something that stood out for me in one of the tables is that those quizzed thought transport being frequent and safe was more important than clean and comfortable
People in this part of the world travelled on the mostly loathed Pacers for years so is that much of a surprise?!
Whilst I imagine a bright, clean interior/exterior does have some benefits to it to attract/retain some passengers, I can't help but think a simple basic interior does enough to keep passengers and instead find ways to promote the services themselves instead to grow usage.
Let them campaign we have had leamside and Washington campaign for 40 years it is still on the agenda
What you have to remember is wherever you put the Metro in Tyne and Wear
You will lose bus services it is a Fact!
South Hylton Village was a prime example
(07 Mar 2022, 11:22 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote [ -> ]Let them campaign we have had leamside and Washington campaign for 40 years it is still on the agenda
What you have to remember is wherever you put the Metro in Tyne and Wear
You will lose bus services it is a Fact!
South Hylton Village was a prime example
For a village of it's size, South Hylton has an excellent service. A Metro every 12 minutes in addition to the half-hourly bus. Why does it have to be one form of public transport vs another, rather than the two complimenting each other?
Given that the Metro in Washington won't reach the Galleries or Concord, there's going to be a requirement for buses to compliment the Metro service there.
(07 Mar 2022, 11:22 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote [ -> ]Let them campaign we have had leamside and Washington campaign for 40 years it is still on the agenda
What you have to remember is wherever you put the Metro in Tyne and Wear
You will lose bus services it is a Fact!
South Hylton Village was a prime example
I'm not sure whether it's just discussing a different point here but Derwent Walk is on the fantasy Consett line which won't be getting built anytime soon so there's nothing for them to worry about.
It's nothing to do with the Leamside Line. Also if the Metro served where I lived every single bus service could disappear, I really wouldn't care tbh.
Metro -> Train -> Walk -> Bus