(04 Apr 2022, 5:36 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]The north east could get this as well if the councils could agree to elect a mayor instead of deciding to disagree with each over
It's not as simplistic as that unfortunately. The North East combined authority is a huge and diverse area to serve, so the devolution deal has to be right in terms of funding. The last deal on the table was only worth £30m a year over 30 years, despite additional responsibilities and without any consideration for things like inflation. NECA would have been responsible to either borrow or find additional funding themselves (including through taxation).
This was knocked back in a devolution referendum in 2004, so the question of who would be the mayor is way down the priorities list, if we're going to put something to residents 18 years later.
(04 Apr 2022, 5:51 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]It's not as simplistic as that unfortunately. The North East combined authority is a huge and diverse area to serve, so the devolution deal has to be right in terms of funding. The last deal on the table was only worth £30m a year over 30 years, despite additional responsibilities and without any consideration for things like inflation. NECA would have been responsible to either borrow or find additional funding themselves (including through taxation).
This was knocked back in a devolution referendum in 2004, so the question of who would be the mayor is way down the priorities list, if we're going to put something to residents 18 years later.
I suspect that devolution will move at pace once the local elections are over in May - of course, Durham are going their own way ..........
From Ben Houchen - Tees Valley Mayor's Facebook page:
As part of the £310m we’ve received from Government to improve public transport, here’s what is being invested in the local bus network [emoji116]
This investment will make bus services more reliable and more frequent[
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X66/X67 seemingly have been dropped from the original plans?
(05 Apr 2022, 11:21 am)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]From Ben Houchen - Tees Valley Mayor's Facebook page:
As part of the £310m we’ve received from Government to improve public transport, here’s what is being invested in the local bus network [emoji116]
This investment will make bus services more reliable and more frequent
X66/X67 seemingly have been dropped from the original plans?
It was mentioned in the article put out on the TVCA website yesterday, perhaps just been missed off this particular poster. If it has been dropped it'll be a shame as it could do with new vehicles following the withdrawal of the Omnicities...having said that would probs get cascaded Ecocities off the 2 in any case.
(05 Apr 2022, 11:21 am)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]From Ben Houchen - Tees Valley Mayor's Facebook page:
As part of the £310m we’ve received from Government to improve public transport, here’s what is being invested in the local bus network [emoji116]
This investment will make bus services more reliable and more frequent
X66/X67 seemingly have been dropped from the original plans?
I can't see the Temsas leaving Redcar, so assume it means the Streetlites or Pulsars will be cascaded and replaced with something.
Mind it's a staggering amount for the Hartlepool - Boro route compared to the rest.
(05 Apr 2022, 11:58 am)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]I can't see the Temsas leaving Redcar, so assume it means the Streetlites or Pulsars will be cascaded and replaced with something.
Mind it's a staggering amount for the Hartlepool - Boro route compared to the rest.
I think it's only the 1 half-hourly between Hartlepool and Middlesbrough, so I wonder if they're throwing a shed load of money at it to subsidise a higher frequency?
I'm not sure how busy it usually gets... I'm sure some of our Teesside members will know.
(05 Apr 2022, 12:08 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]I think it's only the 1 half-hourly between Hartlepool and Middlesbrough, so I wonder if they're throwing a shed load of money at it to subsidise a higher frequency?
I'm not sure how busy it usually gets... I'm sure some of our Teesside members will know.
There's the 36 as well. Part of that route is getting support with cycle lanes if I remember right.
Plus they're competing with the train.
Wouldn't have thought there was that much demand. Even if they were pump priming it to be honest.
The only advantage the 1 has over the 36 (that I can see) is that it goes near so many key employment sites.
For all the things thrown his way, I'll give Houchen some credit in that there's been improvements to services to the likes of Teesport under his watch. Maybe he sees the 1 in a similar light.
(05 Apr 2022, 12:11 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]There's the 36 as well. Part of that route is getting support with cycle lanes if I remember right.
Plus they're competing with the train.
Wouldn't have thought there was that much demand. Even if they were pump priming it to be honest.
The only advantage the 1 has over the 36 (that I can see) is that it goes near so many key employment sites.
For all the things thrown his way, I'll give Houchen some credit in that there's been improvements to services to the likes of Teesport under his watch. Maybe he sees the 1 in a similar light.
Ah of course, I'd completely forgotten about the 36!
(05 Apr 2022, 12:11 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]There's the 36 as well. Part of that route is getting support with cycle lanes if I remember right.
Plus they're competing with the train.
Wouldn't have thought there was that much demand. Even if they were pump priming it to be honest.
The only advantage the 1 has over the 36 (that I can see) is that it goes near so many key employment sites.
For all the things thrown his way, I'll give Houchen some credit in that there's been improvements to services to the likes of Teesport under his watch. Maybe he sees the 1 in a similar light.
As far as I'm aware the 1 isn't part of the plans, there's a map of all the routes on here -
https://moderngov.middlesbrough.gov.uk/d...0Draft.pdf (P21). It's 100% the 36 corridor that's getting the improvements.
The one that's baffling is:
Rail: British Steel Redcar Station
That station is currently mothballed and is inaccessible as it's literally in the middle of private land. Not sure what they're going to do there bar shutting it properly.
(05 Apr 2022, 1:11 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]As far as I'm aware the 1 isn't part of the plans, there's a map of all the routes on here - https://moderngov.middlesbrough.gov.uk/d...0Draft.pdf (P21). It's 100% the 36 corridor that's getting the improvements.
The one that's baffling is:
Rail: British Steel Redcar Station
That station is currently mothballed and is inaccessible as it's literally in the middle of private land. Not sure what they're going to do there bar shutting it properly.
Forgot about that map. But yeah, going off that. It's the 36.
Looks like the 63 in R&C and I've no idea what that is towards East Cleveland Hospital.
I assume the X3A as it terminates in Brotton (it was Skelton Asda, but I'm sure there was some funding to extend it). But the map doesn't show the X3A route.
(05 Apr 2022, 1:24 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Forgot about that map. But yeah, going off that. It's the 36.
Looks like the 63 in R&C and I've no idea what that is towards East Cleveland Hospital.
I assume the X3A as it terminates in Brotton (it was Skelton Asda, but I'm sure there was some funding to extend it). But the map doesn't show the X3A route.
Given the route via the coast road it looks like the X4, which does run fairly close to the hospital, but would make more sense to extend the X3A down to the hospital entrance.