North East Buses

Arriva North East interworking suggestions

Tbh most of them are a mess. Before the changes it was

306 would interwork with the 308 on Sunday only

43/44/45 would interwork during the day but then interwork with the 52/53 on evenings & Sundays

52/53/54 interworked (54 was standalone on Sundays)

57/57A interwork (still do)

X7/X8/X9 interwork (still do to some sorts)

55 standalone

46/46A/51/51A interworked

Now it's an absolute mess. Its hard to tell what interworks with what

43/44/45 do already interwork on the 'temp' frequency but can't do so if at normal frequency as too tight. Something else would need to interwork with 44/45 if eventually moved.

306/308 at the moment, would be better suited to a 10 minute frequency (20 each) to resolve driver shortage issues saving a PVR of 3-4, 306 if pulled out of Battle Hill could help reduce PVR by 4 if interworking (PVR would be 14x)

(09 Nov 2022, 11:03 am)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]43/44/45 do already interwork on the 'temp' frequency but can't do so if at normal frequency as too tight. Something else would need to interwork with 44/45 if eventually moved.

306/308 at the moment, would be better suited to a 10 minute frequency (20 each) to resolve driver shortage issues saving a PVR of 3-4, 306 if pulled out of Battle Hill could help reduce PVR by 4 if interworking (PVR would be 14x)

If it reduces the PVR by 4 thats roughly around 12 drivers freed up. 

What else goes to Battle Hill other than the 41/41A?

(09 Nov 2022, 5:52 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]If it reduces the PVR by 4 thats roughly around 12 drivers freed up. 

What else goes to Battle Hill other than the 41/41A?

The obvious competition......309/310/311, which is probably why Arriva are hesitant to reduce these services before others

(08 Nov 2022, 11:50 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Tbh most of them are a mess. Before the changes it was

306 would interwork with the 308 on Sunday only

43/44/45 would interwork during the day but then interwork with the 52/53 on evenings & Sundays

52/53/54 interworked (54 was standalone on Sundays)

57/57A interwork (still do)

X7/X8/X9 interwork (still do to some sorts)

55 standalone

46/46A/51/51A interworked

Now it's an absolute mess. Its hard to tell what interworks with what

Operators interwork services for efficiency, not for convenience.

(08 Nov 2022, 11:50 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Tbh most of them are a mess. Before the changes it was

306 would interwork with the 308 on Sunday only

43/44/45 would interwork during the day but then interwork with the 52/53 on evenings & Sundays

52/53/54 interworked (54 was standalone on Sundays)

57/57A interwork (still do)

X7/X8/X9 interwork (still do to some sorts)

55 standalone

46/46A/51/51A interworked

Now it's an absolute mess. Its hard to tell what interworks with what

51/52/53/54 interwork (the 51 replacing the dropped 54)
43/44/45 interwork
X7/X8/X9 interwork
X10/X11 interwork
306/308 interwork
55 standalone

That's the interworking patterns now.

If you're trying to work it out from Bustimes that's just Blyth regulating buses and trying to sort out delays out with the serious issues on the X7/X8 since the changes mainly caused by the roadworks at Gosforth Park and now the road closure from South Gosforth to Blue House Roundabout.

I'm not sure what the terms we're for moving depots but it appears that a lot of driver's have opted for Blyth who aren't having too many problems rather than Ashington (Walkergate) which aren't running anything pretty much.

(09 Nov 2022, 9:49 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]I'm not sure what the terms we're for moving depots but it appears that a lot of driver's have opted for Blyth who aren't having too many problems rather than Ashington (Walkergate) which aren't running anything pretty much.

That's not correct. The services that are mainly being hit are those operated by Blyth, hence the planned transfer of some work back to Walkergate. 

All 43 boards are operated by Blyth, for example.

Do you know what is being moved from Blyth to Walkergate? Apparently in a reply somebody got from Arriva on Friday, they're promising major improvements when they move work temporarily between depots from today.

(13 Nov 2022, 3:12 pm)Shrek wrote [ -> ]Do you know what is being moved from Blyth to Walkergate? Apparently in a reply somebody got from Arriva on Friday, they're promising major improvements when they move work temporarily between depots from today.

Could be to help with the 52/53/54 problems. Seen a few Blyth buses doing it now