(16 Mar 2019, 11:46 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]Think the numbers are right:
Allocations:
11 Enviro 200MMC to Deptford for the 9 although no spares of the type, Citaro's would be used instead.
15 E400 MMC’s for Red Arrow (2 spare)
14 E400 MMC’s for FAB 56 (2 spare)
Double decker’s to have tables and wireless USB charging ports.
Others:
13 Omnidekka’s from Brighton
9 Electric buses
Electric buses
Saltwell Park - 8 + 1 spare.
Cascades:
11 Citaro to stay at Deptford to get rid of the Scania's.
Red Arrow B9’s
11 B9’s from Red Arrow to Chester to replace the Omnidekka’s
1 B9 Red Arrow to replace 6146 at Crook
1 B9 to replace 6017 at Washington
2 B9’s replace 6920 and 6921 at Riverside
FAB 56 B9’s
10 to Percy Main to replace 3995, 3996, 6132, 34, 35, 44, 45, 47, 48
4 b9’s to be branded for the DFDS Seaways
Omnidekka’s
10 Chester Omnidekka’s to Riverside to replace the Vykings
1 Omnidekka to Riverside to replace 6922
10 Omnidekka from Percy Main to replace 6923-6932
9 Omnidekka’s from Brighton to replace 6933-6941
4 Omnidekka’s from Brighton as spares.
Saltwell Park Streetlites:
8 Streetlites to the Loop
Withdrawals:
19 Scania L94
10 Vykings
Presidents - 6920 - 6941
PVR of loop was increased to 9 last year.
Could put 8339-46 on 58, with 5377-84 on the 93/94, with 5389 or 90 making up the 9 buses.
(16 Mar 2019, 5:46 pm)park5354 wrote [ -> ]PVR of loop was increased to 9 last year.
Could put 8339-46 on 58, with 5377-84 on the 93/94, with 5389 or 90 making up the 9 buses.
Ah right, didn't know that!
With the new Consett depot having electric vehicle charging stations... wonder if we have electric vehicles on order for Consett, as the 9 from funding will more likely end up at Riverside.
So:
11 electric buses for the Red kites - 45 and 46, leaving the 47 separate
Cascades:
10 Streetlites to Riverside replacing the Green Arrow Scania's
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11 single deckers and 4 Electric deckers for the Red kites
Cascades:
10 Streetlite to Deptford, replacing the Scania's
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14 Electric deckers for the Red Kites + 2 spare
Cascades:
10 Streetlites to Green Arrow
4 B9's remain at Stanley to replace the Omnidekka's, Omnidekka's to replace the older decker buses in the fleet.
(18 Mar 2019, 8:19 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]With the new Consett depot having electric vehicle charging stations... wonder if we have electric vehicles on order for Consett, as the 9 from funding will more likely end up at Riverside.
So:
11 electric buses for the Red kites - 45 and 46, leaving the 47 separate
Cascades:
10 Streetlites to Riverside replacing the Green Arrow Scania's
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11 single deckers and 4 Electric deckers for the Red kites
Cascades:
10 Streetlite to Deptford, replacing the Scania's
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14 Electric deckers for the Red Kites + 2 spare
Cascades:
10 Streetlites to Green Arrow
4 B9's remain at Stanley to replace the Omnidekka's, Omnidekka's to replace the older decker buses in the fleet.
It will be sure interesting and if that’s the case and I think one of your suggestions maybe correct. This is the first I’ve heard of it. Electric buses could also possibly go on Durham Diamond Services anyone’s guess at the moment.
(18 Mar 2019, 9:28 pm)NewcastleOne wrote [ -> ]It will be sure interesting and if that’s the case and I think one of your suggestions maybe correct. This is the first I’ve heard of it. Electric buses could also possibly go on Durham Diamond Services anyone’s guess at the moment.
Might be wrong, but i don't think Hownsgill will have anymore than 4 electric charging points.
(19 Mar 2019, 4:42 am)Stanleyone wrote [ -> ]Might be wrong, but i don't think Hownsgill will have anymore than 4 electric charging points.
Are we sure they're for buses and not just for employees' cars?
(19 Mar 2019, 7:23 am)Ianthegoon wrote [ -> ]Are we sure they're for buses and not just for employees' cars?
From the last plan I saw it’s not for buses, but of course things do change
Lets look at the double deck PVRs
- Fab 56 (14)(16 with spares)
- Red Arrows (13x)(15 with spares)
- Tyne Valley Ten (16x)(18 with spares)
Therefore, the only 2x services that add up to 33 vehicles in total are the TVT + Red Arrows. And it's unlikely that GNE will re-increase the Red Arrows back to every 10 mins.
My prediction is as follows based on the TVT + Red Arrows getting new buses with spares as well:
- 6071-83 to Consett for Red Kites
- 6100 to Consett for Red Kites
- 6084 stays at Riverside incase Tachographs are re-introduced
- 6043/44 to Consett as spares
- 6045/46 to Percy Main as spares
- 6047/48 to Deptford as spares
- 6099 to Crook as spare for X21
Then:
- 6001-07 & 6049-55 to Consett replacing 6149-61
- 6149-61 & 6118-21 to EYMS
(21 Mar 2019, 5:35 am)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Lets look at the double deck PVRs
- Fab 56 (14)(16 with spares)
- Red Arrows (13x)(15 with spares)
- Tyne Valley Ten (16x)(18 with spares)
Therefore, the only 2x services that add up to 33 vehicles in total are the TVT + Red Arrows. And it's unlikely that GNE will re-increase the Red Arrows back to every 10 mins.
My prediction is as follows based on the TVT + Red Arrows getting new buses with spares as well:
- 6071-83 to Consett for Red Kites
- 6100 to Consett for Red Kites
- 6084 stays at Riverside incase Tachographs are re-introduced
- 6043/44 to Consett as spares
- 6045/46 to Percy Main as spares
- 6047/48 to Deptford as spares
- 6099 to Crook as spare for X21
Then:
- 6001-07 & 6049-55 to Consett replacing 6149-61
- 6149-61 & 6118-21 to EYMS
Might be a case of gne not replacing decker for decker, plenty of single decks need replacing
(21 Mar 2019, 5:47 am)Stanleyone wrote [ -> ]Might be a case of gne not replacing decker for decker, plenty of single decks need replacing
Aye i agree, i do wonder if any of the single decker routes get double deckers, the frequency will be dropped to accommodate the increase in seats, which may not be needed?
example - 60 gets B9's - drops to every 15 minutes
Why don't they not either re-fit 710-4 with euro 6 engines or replace them with newer euro 6 optare solo SRs as they are only 4
(24 Mar 2019, 11:25 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]Aye i agree, i do wonder if any of the single decker routes get double deckers, the frequency will be dropped to accommodate the increase in seats, which may not be needed?
example - 60 gets B9's - drops to every 15 minutes
The low bridge on the route of the 60 may exclude that route from being upgraded to double-deck, though, unless we fancied a few more buses like 6000!
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(24 Mar 2019, 11:25 am)Michael wrote [ -> ]Aye i agree, i do wonder if any of the single decker routes get double deckers, the frequency will be dropped to accommodate the increase in seats, which may not be needed?
example - 60 gets B9's - drops to every 15 minutes
The low bridge on the route of the 60 may exclude that route from being upgraded to double-deck, though, unless we fancied a few more buses like 6000!
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(24 Mar 2019, 12:22 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]The low bridge on the route of the 60 may exclude that route from being upgraded to double-deck, though, unless we fancied a few more buses like 6000!
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Aye but that was just an example, it was the first service which came to mind!
Looking at the allocations, I'd reckon all of the B9TLs from Riverside / Hexham (excl 6084) will transfer to Percy Main after a refurb once new buses have arrived for the TVT (got to be given the numbers for this years decker orders). That will then provide 16x for the Coaster + 3x spares covering a PVR of 33x (17x Cobalt Clipper and 16x Coaster).
The B5LHs I reckon will be either be moved to another Go Ahead division or maybe the following if kept within GNE:
- 8x CityLink 58 (if not upgraded with new electric single deck vehicles)
- 5x Blaydon Racers
- 2x Spare
I do hope Crusader 27 get (if it happens) Coaster buses because of increase capacity during hot weather and Metro problems where is no 900 in place and Mercs dont cope.
(23 Apr 2019, 8:17 pm)Panasonic44 wrote [ -> ]I do hope Crusader 27 get (if it happens) Coaster buses because of increase capacity during hot weather and Metro problems where is no 900 in place and Mercs dont cope.
They only moved to the coaster last year, though.
Order details announced to staff this evening! Sure you lot will hear soon enough
(25 Apr 2019, 5:11 pm)MrBoyt wrote [ -> ]Order details announced to staff this evening! Sure you lot will hear soon enough
And judging by the wording of it, I don't think anyone's guessed correctly where these are heading on the forum!
(25 Apr 2019, 5:24 pm)deanmachine wrote [ -> ]And judging by the wording of it, I don't think anyone's guessed correctly where these are heading on the forum!
No allocations announced in the message, just types and numbers.