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(17 Apr 2014, 6:09 pm)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]Then all 3 main operators will have a go on it. When you think about it, wouldn't that mean a lot of jobs with Go North East would be lost? Would Arriva use their own drivers? Or, would they be transferred to Arriva? (like they did with the Hexham swaps?)

He's talking about the Durham Park & Ride contract first and foremost.
(17 Apr 2014, 6:12 pm)Kuyoyo Wrote: [ -> ]He's talking about the Durham Park & Ride contract first and foremost.

When Arriva won the Durham P&R contract in 2009 most of the drivers transferred from Scarlet Band and were protected by TUPE regulations. I think this was a stipulation of the contract and presumably it will still stand.
(17 Apr 2014, 8:02 pm)RGR756V Wrote: [ -> ]When Arriva won the Durham P&R contract in 2009 most of the drivers transferred from Scarlet Band and were protected by TUPE regulations. I think this was a stipulation of the contract and presumably it will still stand.

Durham P&R operate using dedicated driving staff. If another operator won the contract to operate it, then TUPE would definitely apply. That's if Arriva couldn't (or didn't want to) reassign those staff.
(17 Apr 2014, 8:02 pm)RGR756V Wrote: [ -> ]When Arriva won the Durham P&R contract in 2009 most of the drivers transferred from Scarlet Band and were protected by TUPE regulations. I think this was a stipulation of the contract and presumably it will still stand.

Sure does Stu, it is mentioned a few times in the contract specification. Easily accessed by anyone registered with NEPO, which if course is open to everyone to register. Can see every big contract on there, obviously I'm only really interested in the public transport ones.
(17 Apr 2014, 9:24 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: [ -> ]Sure does Stu, it is mentioned a few times in the contract specification. Easily accessed by anyone registered with NEPO, which if course is open to everyone to register. Can see every big contract on there, obviously I'm only really interested in the public transport ones.

Link here if anyone wants to read.

I wonder if GNE go for it again this time round, given that they probably should have won the tender last time? Got to be an ideal opportunity using their low cost model at Peterlee.
Any news on the NCC contracts as discussed previously a few pages back?
(17 Apr 2014, 10:18 pm)AdamY Wrote: [ -> ]Any news on the NCC contracts as discussed previously a few pages back?

All current contracts extended until 1st September.
(17 Apr 2014, 10:20 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: [ -> ]All current contracts extended until 1st September.

Just wondering, is the 880 up for contract this year?
Here Tom...

(24 Mar 2014, 6:00 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: [ -> ]The tenders in Northumberland were to start on 7th April, however all existing contracts have now been extended until 1st September.

The routes up for tender were

74 Hexham - Newcastle
79 Ponteland - Morpeth
613 Whittonstall - Hexham
681 Slaggyford - Haltwhistle
683 Hexham - Newbrough
688 Hexham - Allenheads
689 Consett - Hexham
691 Morpeth and Upper Coquetdale "Dial a ride"
693/694 Hexham and Kielder "Dial a ride"
695 Hexham and Blanchland "Dial a ride"
696 Carrshield and Hexham "Dial a ride"
808 Otterburn - Newcastle
880 Bellingham - Hexham
882 Bellingham/Colwell - Hexham
883 Byrness - Hexham
889 Alston - Hexham
915 Otterburn - Kielder - Bellingham
AD122 Hadrians Wall (Newcastle based board)
(02 May 2014, 8:28 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: [ -> ]Here Tom...

Cheers Smile
Knew it was somewhere but couldn't find it. Would like to see companies like Tyne Valley Coaches and other smaller companies win a few contracts, but not sure if Go North East will keep them, which is likely. Only problem is, how will smaller operators get enough buses?
(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: [ -> ]Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

Any news on these?
(05 May 2014, 9:47 pm)Tom Wrote: [ -> ]Any news on these?

be intresting to see who gets the 88
(06 May 2014, 7:14 pm)danpick Wrote: [ -> ]be intresting to see who gets the 88

Think GNE would keep the 88, 96/96A

As for the rest not sure
(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke Wrote: [ -> ]Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

When will we find out who has won these contracts?

be interesting if GNE won none of them


Thanks, Michael
(18 May 2014, 2:07 pm)Michael Wrote: [ -> ]When will we find out who has won these contracts?

be interesting if GNE won none of them


Thanks, Michael

Very soon I'd imagine, baring in mind the 56 days notice required to VOSA.
Here are my predictions:

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland - Go North East
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank - Compass
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields - Go North East
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill - Arriva (evening)
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars - Go North East
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn - Arriva
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate - GCT
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services - Go North East
(18 May 2014, 3:45 pm)Tom Wrote: [ -> ]Here are my predictions:

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland - Go North East
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank - Compass
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields - Go North East
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill - Arriva (evening)
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars - Go North East
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn - Arriva
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate - GCT
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services - Go North East

Wouldnt mind seen arriva down at seaburn.

I think the 37/73 will be shared contact like now.

I think GNE will keep the 88 and 96/96A

Stagecoach for the 135/136

Rest im not sure
(18 May 2014, 3:56 pm)Michael Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldnt mind seen arriva down at seaburn.

I think the 37/73 will be shared contact like now.

I think GNE will keep the 88 and 96/96A

Stagecoach for the 135/136

Rest im not sure

If the 37/73 are shared then who will they be shared with?
(18 May 2014, 3:57 pm)Tom Wrote: [ -> ]If the 37/73 are shared then who will they be shared with?

Compass and a 2nd independant company.
(18 May 2014, 3:45 pm)Tom Wrote: [ -> ]Here are my predictions:

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland - Go North East
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank - Compass
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields - Go North East
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill - Arriva (evening)
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars - Go North East
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn - Arriva
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate - GCT
R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services - Go North East

I personally think that the 38C will be operated by Go North East, providing they can see a profit in doing so. I'm sure a SimpliCity Versa could be arranged for low running costs.
I was just discussing this with someone else earlier - take a look at this photo. Compass' fleet isn't exactly immaculate, and although I haven't seen a non-compliant vehicle (i.e. van) on the service yet, it doesn't present neither Go North East nor Nexus in a good light when a bus as scruffy as that turns up.

Also think that the 96/96A will stay with Go North East, purely because they've operated it fairly well and can put in a cheap bid with their Euro 5 Versas.

Not sure about the 515/558. I think an independent could get it, rather than Arriva.

Think Arriva are more likely to get the R3/R4/R6 - don't think GNE have any resources to accommodate these, but Arriva might?