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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 21 Oct 2022
46/46A renumbered to X46, literally the most pointless change ever, what next 51 becomes the X51
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Rob44 - 21 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 4:47 pm)V514DFT 46/46A renumbered to X46, literally the most pointless change ever, what next 51 becomes the X51
buts its going to be an "express" isn't it?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - 9920up - 21 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 4:47 pm)V514DFT 46/46A renumbered to X46, literally the most pointless change ever, what next 51 becomes the X51It being pointless won't stop Arriva. Remember a few years ago many services became X numbered for no reason, certainly not to signify express running. All they achieved was misleading and confusing customers. Still in place now with examples being X21, X22 ( Durham County), X26, X27, X75, X76.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - cbma06 - 21 Oct 2022
Looks like the X46 will be ran by Stanley Travel
https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/044-045-x046-nms-stl-301022.pdf
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Rob44 - 21 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 5:10 pm)9920up It being pointless won't stop Arriva. Remember a few years ago many services became X numbered for no reason, certainly not to signify express running. All they achieved was misleading and confusing customers. Still in place now with examples being X21, X22 ( Durham County), X26, X27, X75, X76.
Arriva arnt running it. Its either jh coaches or as above stanley travel. Its NEXUS who are making it an "express" stopping only at regent centre, the high street and barras bridge
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 21 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 9:22 am)Aaron21 54 will be ran by Stagecoach on a Sunday according to the nexus timetableInterworking with the 317 by any chance?
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 21 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 5:57 pm)Rob44 Arriva arnt running it. Its either jh coaches or as above stanley travel. Its NEXUS who are making it an "express" stopping only at regent centre, the high street and barras bridge
In fairness it just sounds better. It's going to be an express service anyway as no-one is going to use it. I know someone made a joke about the 51 but they might aswell make it express along the Coast Road as most people just let it go by anyway, would save it going up and down each slip round pointlessly.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Rob44 - 22 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 7:13 pm)Storx In fairness it just sounds better. It's going to be an express service anyway as no-one is going to use it. I know someone made a joke about the 51 but they might aswell make it express along the Coast Road as most people just let it go by anyway, would save it going up and down each slip round pointlessly.
depends on how its advertised. If you could get a bus thats cheaper and quicker than arriva services you'd use it surely? Unless you wanted to be off at asda ot the town moor LOL
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 22 Oct 2022
(22 Oct 2022, 7:02 am)Rob44 depends on how its advertised. If you could get a bus thats cheaper and quicker than arriva services you'd use it surely? Unless you wanted to be off at asda ot the town moor LOL
Let's be honest we all know how it will be though. Absolutely no-where unless you know the thing exists.
It's too infrequent aswell tbh and aren't the Arriva services quite cheap along there, can remember them being so.
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tyresmoke - 22 Oct 2022
I’m assuming it’ll be to do with timekeeping and ensuring they can keep going with a single bus without getting too late. Less stops on the way in and out of town should help with this.
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RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Rob44 - 22 Oct 2022
(22 Oct 2022, 9:36 am)tyresmoke I’m assuming it’ll be to do with timekeeping and ensuring they can keep going with a single bus without getting too late. Less stops on the way in and out of town should help with this.
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yep i assumed that to although im not sure it will work as its more of a traffic congestion thing on gosforth high street no matter when NCC say!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RMF1254 - 22 Oct 2022
(21 Oct 2022, 7:13 pm)Storx In fairness it just sounds better. It's going to be an express service anyway as no-one is going to use it. I know someone made a joke about the 51 but they might aswell make it express along the Coast Road as most people just let it go by anyway, would save it going up and down each slip round pointlessly.51 does pick up passengers on the Coast Road, it’s typical on the Coast Road, people with non operator specific tickets will get on the first bus. There are also some passengers using it from Corner House / Chillingham Road / Benfield Road to stops beyond Hadrian Lodge / Station Road.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Rob44 - 22 Oct 2022
Coast road -> Bring back the 44!!!
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 22 Oct 2022
(22 Oct 2022, 9:47 am)RMF1254 51 does pick up passengers on the Coast Road, it’s typical on the Coast Road, people with non operator specific tickets will get on the first bus. There are also some passengers using it from Corner House / Chillingham Road / Benfield Road to stops beyond Hadrian Lodge / Station Road.
Aye that's fair enough whenever I used to be the only one who ever got on as it was always non stop.
On the subject of the X46 I don't get don't just run a short route from Hollywood Avenue to Great Park via Regent Centre every 30 minutes with through tickets available on the Metro and/or Great North Buses to Gosforth only.
It arguably would offer a better service than an hourly token service.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - L469 YVK - 22 Oct 2022
(22 Oct 2022, 10:10 am)Rob44 Coast road -> Bring back the 44!!!Before COVID, I would've 100% agreed with an 'X' variant of the 308.
If passenger numbers stabilise and driver numbers recovered, could do this (depending on Blyth's capacity) and if the 43/44/45 returned to normal frequency, would also solve the dead-mileage issue to Dinnington (43/44/45 too unreliable to interwork on a 15 min frequency).............
- 306 & 308 - both reduced to every 20 minutes and 306 withdrawn from Battle Hill. 308 during the day runs via Marden Estate rather than Hillheads. PVR 14x and 306 curtailed in Tynemouth.
- X38 - Same as 308 now between Blyth and Billy Mill. Then only calling at Norham Road and Willington Square before non-stop to Newcastle Civic Centre, St Mary's and Haymarket. Every 30 mins and a PVR of 10x interworking with 44/45.
Diverting the 308 via Marden would open up new links, whilst further distinguishing the 'express' element of the X38
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 22 Oct 2022
(22 Oct 2022, 12:04 pm)L469 YVK Before COVID, I would've 100% agreed with an 'X' variant of the 308.
If passenger numbers stabilise and driver numbers recovered, could do this (depending on Blyth's capacity) and if the 43/44/45 returned to normal frequency, would also solve the dead-mileage issue to Dinnington (43/44/45 too unreliable to interwork on a 15 min frequency).............
- 306 & 308 - both reduced to every 20 minutes and 306 withdrawn from Battle Hill. 308 during the day runs via Marden Estate rather than Hillheads. PVR 14x and 306 curtailed in Tynemouth.
- X38 - Same as 308 now between Blyth and Billy Mill. Then only calling at Norham Road and Willington Square before non-stop to Newcastle Civic Centre, St Mary's and Haymarket. Every 30 mins and a PVR of 10x interworking with 44/45.
Diverting the 308 via Marden would open up new links, whilst further distinguishing the 'express' element of the X38
If you want an 'express' service you'd be better doing something like this imo:
306/308: Haymarket - St Mary's Place - Civic Centre - [Non Stop] - Sandyford - [Non Stop] - Cradlewell - Corner House - [Non Stop] - Kings Road North / Selby Gardens - Coast Road - ...
309/310/311: Haymarket - [All Stops] - Station Road - Mullen Road - Battle Hill - ...
It means that they all do they're respective routes so you'll have a quicker clean 7.5 minute service with the 306/308 and a clean 6 minute service with the 309/310/311 on the common sections with them both doing unique routes give or take rather than the case now where the 309 does Selby Gardens and the 306 does Battle Hill and the uneven service that causes with a slightly quicker service for the 306/308 since they don't have the slog of going up and down the two slip roads.
The 306 and 309 swap is a win for both aswell as it means GNE get Battle Hill but Arriva get Selby Gardens / Kings Road North so neither lose out.
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - ian foster - 23 Oct 2022
(22 Oct 2022, 12:04 pm)L469 YVK Before COVID, I would've 100% agreed with an 'X' variant of the 308.Yes bring it on. Too many buses go via Battle Hill even 308 is painfully slow compared to the 44 prior to 2010.
If passenger numbers stabilise and driver numbers recovered, could do this (depending on Blyth's capacity) and if the 43/44/45 returned to normal frequency, would also solve the dead-mileage issue to Dinnington (43/44/45 too unreliable to interwork on a 15 min frequency).............
- 306 & 308 - both reduced to every 20 minutes and 306 withdrawn from Battle Hill. 308 during the day runs via Marden Estate rather than Hillheads. PVR 14x and 306 curtailed in Tynemouth.
- X38 - Same as 308 now between Blyth and Billy Mill. Then only calling at Norham Road and Willington Square before non-stop to Newcastle Civic Centre, St Mary's and Haymarket. Every 30 mins and a PVR of 10x interworking with 44/45.
Diverting the 308 via Marden would open up new links, whilst further distinguishing the 'express' element of the X38
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Rob44 - 27 Oct 2022
from the chon....
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/plea-protect-vital-lifeline-bus-25362532
Some interesting coments on the storey including that taylor wimpy and permission homes pay GNE 15K to operate the Q3??
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - V514DFT - 27 Oct 2022
Interesting,so all these services are temporary, so we could see the majority of the changes that have happened this year gone permanently
RE: Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 27 Oct 2022
(27 Oct 2022, 3:16 pm)V514DFT Interesting,so all these services are temporary, so we could see the majority of the changes that have happened this year gone permanently
Imagine it's just so it's tendered with the rest of the services. Maybe there might be some changes with it merged with the 35 etc or something long term.