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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - F114TML - 27 May 2023
(27 May 2023, 8:46 am)Unber43 Pretty sure it has like 4 mins at Thorney Close and 2 mins at Dene Estate which isn't enough.Currently 9 mins at Thorney and 4 at Dene Estate. I've been on 23s that have bunched up - most recent was because I left the depot some 8 minutes late and picked up two bus loads of schoolkids from Dene Estate, but by the time I got back to Dene Estate I was on time. It seems to me to only really bunch up if it's got a particularly slow driver on, or there's been a problem somewhere.
Also its quite a hard route to make up time when running dead especially if you get a changeover
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - busmanT - 28 May 2023
(27 May 2023, 8:46 am)Unber43 Pretty sure it has like 4 mins at Thorney Close and 2 mins at Dene Estate which isn't enough.If it's 71 minutes running time round trip, then it will surely be a 90-minute total round trip on a 15 minute headway (6 buses rather than the 7 used now on an 84 minute round trip).
Also its quite a hard route to make up time when running dead especially if you get a changeover
Also the route takes 71 mins round trip (without layovers) at every 15 mins it will have 4 mins, 2 mins either end. SC Sunderland reliability will hit the floor
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 28 May 2023
(26 May 2023, 10:26 am)Michael Bustimes.org are indicating timetables from "2nd July 2023" on the 10/11 and 20 in Sunderland - but still shows current times.
Example: https://bustimes.org/services/10-pennywell-grangetown-2?date=2023-07-02
I wonder if that means the new timetables will be uploaded in the next couple of days?
Looks like the new timetables for Sunderland are on traveline, if you change the date to 10th July, found it by typing in the service number.
New X24 timetables includes a Sunday service.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Unber43 - 28 May 2023
every 30 mins aswell
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 28 May 2023
(28 May 2023, 7:20 pm)Unber43 every 30 mins aswell
Ye, I wonder if they're taking a risk, due to the £2 single fare being extended?
About time.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Busu284 - 30 May 2023
Stagecoach SF1 will run from Newcastle Monument (I'm guessing Blackett Street) every 5 minutes starting at 22.00 and running till 00.40 to Kingston Park Shops on the 10th June
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 03 Jun 2023
I’m guessing the open top service 19 from the north estates to seaburn seafront won’t be returning? Shame as it seemed to do well
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 05 Jun 2023
(03 Jun 2023, 11:50 pm)Acky81 I’m guessing the open top service 19 from the north estates to seaburn seafront won’t be returning? Shame as it seemed to do well
Doesn't look like it, the open tops look be allocated to the E services now.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 09 Jun 2023
23rd July 2023:
The Start of Newcastle changes?
PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3940 (39, 40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker
PB0002404/27
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6 (7) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Busu284 - 09 Jun 2023
(09 Jun 2023, 9:02 am)Michael 23rd July 2023:Wonder what these could be changing
The Start of Newcastle changes?
PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3940 (39, 40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker
PB0002404/27
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6 (7) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 09 Jun 2023
Teesside & Hartlepool changes from 23 July submitted today.
PB0001987/37 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 6 (6) Clavering Owton Manor
PB0001987/91 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 364 (13B) Middlesbrough Outwood Academy
PB0001987/21 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 58 (58, 58, 57, 57) Stockton High Street Stockton High Street
PB0001987/297 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 39st (39) Park End Middlesbrough Bus Station
PB0001987/20 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 59 (59) Stockton North Tees Hospital
PB0001987/284 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 3h (3A, 3) Bishop Cuthbert South Fens
PB0001987/207 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 61 (61) Stockton Elton Park
PB0001987/32 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 1h (1) Hartlepool High Tunstall Middlesbrough Bus Station
PB0001987/38 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 7 (7) Middlegate Owton Manor
PB0001987/23 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 12st (12) Middlesbrough Bus Station Coulby Newham
PB0001987/1 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 11 (10) Middlesbrough Bus Station Lingfield Park
PB0001987/2 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 363738 (38, 37, 36) Middlesbrough Hartlepool/North Tees/ Norton Glebe
PB0001987/220 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 34 (34) Middlesbrough Bus Station Billingham Low Grange
PB0001987/239 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 1313A (13) Coulby Newham Salters Lane
PB0001987/22 Variation CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD 52 (52) Stockton Owington Farm
Cant see anything obvious, except that the 13A appears to have gone from the 13 registration, so either back to two x 13 per hour or hourly 13.
Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tyresmoke - 10 Jun 2023
58A is cancelled in the Teesside area too… not too surprising as they barely carry anyone and never have. I’m amazed they’ve lasted this long!
I’ve not heard too many things about what could be coming but I’d be expecting some frequency cuts to remove buses from the network. I’ll be honest I was expecting the 35 to go though!
If the 13 is cut to hourly then maybe it’ll be extended to Coulby all week as per Sunday’s given it’ll have a spare half hour in the round trip?!
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 10 Jun 2023
(10 Jun 2023, 11:09 am)tyresmoke 58A is cancelled in the Teesside area too… not too surprising as they barely carry anyone and never have. I’m amazed they’ve lasted this long!
I’ve not heard too many things about what could be coming but I’d be expecting some frequency cuts to remove buses from the network. I’ll be honest I was expecting the 35 to go though!
If the 13 is cut to hourly then maybe it’ll be extended to Coulby all week as per Sunday’s given it’ll have a spare half hour in the round trip?!
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But Ben Houchen has went public saying only Arriva are the ones making cuts. Are we suggesting a Tory is not being completely honest within his public statements!?
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Andreos1 - 10 Jun 2023
(10 Jun 2023, 3:07 pm)RobinHood But Lord Ben Houchen has went public saying only Arriva are the ones making cuts. Are we suggesting a Tory is not being completely honest within his public statements!?
Fixed it for you.
We all know how well Stagecoach have done out of Houchen's tenders. It will be interesting to see what happens with this service...
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 10 Jun 2023
(10 Jun 2023, 3:07 pm)RobinHood But Ben Houchen has went public saying only Arriva are the ones making cuts. Are we suggesting a Tory is not being completely honest within his public statements!?
He not giving away land at Teesport again is he?
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - stagecoachbusdepot - 11 Jun 2023
(05 Jun 2023, 6:15 pm)Michael Doesn't look like it, the open tops look be allocated to the E services now.
I do wonder what the logic is with the open toppers. If they are using them on the Es you'd think they'd aim to get them out on sunny weekends but all just sat in the depot yesterday
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 11 Jun 2023
(11 Jun 2023, 10:55 am)stagecoachbusdepot I do wonder what the logic is with the open toppers. If they are using them on the Es you'd think they'd aim to get them out on sunny weekends but all just sat in the depot yesterday
Same, its decent today, yet not one of them is out.
Wouldn't be surprised if they go, when the changes happen in a few weeks.
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I take it: 39716/17/23/26/30/31/32 will all be withdrawn on the 2nd July.
I take it, the first of the gas buses will also go, alongside 28016?
Does anyone know which company has bought them?, apparently most of them have been sold already.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Lollist - 11 Jun 2023
(10 Jun 2023, 11:09 am)tyresmoke 58A is cancelled in the Teesside area too… not too surprising as they barely carry anyone and never have. I’m amazed they’ve lasted this long!You seriusly think they would withdraw the 35? Have you seen the ammount of kids that get on it ti go to school ?
I’ve not heard too many things about what could be coming but I’d be expecting some frequency cuts to remove buses from the network. I’ll be honest I was expecting the 35 to go though!
If the 13 is cut to hourly then maybe it’ll be extended to Coulby all week as per Sunday’s given it’ll have a spare half hour in the round trip?!
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 11 Jun 2023
(11 Jun 2023, 12:55 pm)Lollist You seriusly think they would withdraw the 35? Have you seen the ammount of kids that get on it ti go to school ?
That's just one AM and one PM trip though - the rest of the day, it's dead. Understand the rumour is it will go hourly - as will the 13, which will be extended to the Parkway Centre as well. 57/58 are rumoured to be dropping to a combined 15 minute frequency all day rather than just on afternoons as present (likely to result in an all day interworking pattern with the 52 once again), the 59/61 rumoured to be dropping to every 20 minutes (loadings haven't picked up on that),the 10 and 34 interworking will be dropped due to timekeeping issues (mainly with the 34). The biggest shock of the rumours is the 12 - dropping from every 12 minutes to every 20 minutes.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 11 Jun 2023
(11 Jun 2023, 1:03 pm)Kuyoyo That's just one AM and one PM trip though - the rest of the day, it's dead. Understand the rumour is it will go hourly - as will the 13, which will be extended to the Parkway Centre as well. 57/58 are rumoured to be dropping to a combined 15 minute frequency all day rather than just on afternoons as present (likely to result in an all day interworking pattern with the 52 once again), the 59/61 rumoured to be dropping to every 20 minutes (loadings haven't picked up on that),the 10 and 34 interworking will be dropped due to timekeeping issues (mainly with the 34). The biggest shock of the rumours is the 12 - dropping from every 12 minutes to every 20 minutes.
Any idea of the plans for the 39?