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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Economic505 - 30 Jun 2023
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-30/06/2023-17:50:38:260
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tcts24 - 01 Jul 2023
Tinkering with Stagecoach's website suggests that Day / Mega Riders are not valid on the 59. The £1.90 flat single within Hartlepool doesn't apply either. Nor does it appear that returns would be on offer.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - RobinHood - 01 Jul 2023
(01 Jul 2023, 8:25 am)tcts24 Tinkering with Stagecoach's website suggests that Day / Mega Riders are not valid on the 59. The £1.90 flat single within Hartlepool doesn't apply either. Nor does it appear that returns would be on offer.
As expected, given Stagecoach don't have the authority to set the fares on Service 59.
However, I fully expect something to resolve once it starts, at it's ridiculous situation not to have any reasonable reason product availability.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - James101 - 01 Jul 2023
I understand it's DCC's prerogative but it would have been useful to have ticket availability at least within Hartlepool and use the 59 to reinstall a service along Milbank Road, serve the Marina which is were people generally want to be, through the interchange to the town centre and terminate via York Rd & Park rd. The current route has been the same for the Trimdon bus since the dawn of time - there's nothing left along Raby Rd or York Rd North left to serve.
Also of note is it looks like it would cost about 15 minutes to run the 07:15 from Trimdon to Durham in service from Hartlepool as the dead run is similar. This would provide a bus from Hartlepool to Durham 30 minutes earlier than the 24 and in time for anyone needed a 9am start for work or education.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 02 Jul 2023
So with the Sunderland changes happening today and MANviro's supposed to be getting withdrawn, want to bet they're still out in service tomorrow?
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Storx - 02 Jul 2023
(01 Jul 2023, 9:17 pm)James101 I understand it's DCC's prerogative but it would have been useful to have ticket availability at least within Hartlepool and use the 59 to reinstall a service along Milbank Road, serve the Marina which is were people generally want to be, through the interchange to the town centre and terminate via York Rd & Park rd. The current route has been the same for the Trimdon bus since the dawn of time - there's nothing left along Raby Rd or York Rd North left to serve.
Also of note is it looks like it would cost about 15 minutes to run the 07:15 from Trimdon to Durham in service from Hartlepool as the dead run is similar. This would provide a bus from Hartlepool to Durham 30 minutes earlier than the 24 and in time for anyone needed a 9am start for work or education.
Surely it's upto Stagecoach not Durham CC / Tees Valley. If Stagecoach want to give the applicable element of the fare to cover the costs Durham would make from the fares then I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
Otherwise they're not going to let Stagecoach tickets on as Stagecoach can't be paid to run a service then make a profit off the fares at the same time.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - F114TML - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 5:31 pm)Michael So with the Sunderland changes happening today and MANviro's supposed to be getting withdrawn, want to bet they're still out in service tomorrow?
Yeah not all of them are going apparently, presumably they're just being kept now as reserves. They seem to have really fixed up 39723 - it's lovely to drive now (well, it's lovely for one of them anyway) with its nearly new sterring wheel and pedals, and there's absolutely no warning lights on it. Be very surprised if that's not been kept or transferred.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 6:01 pm)F114TML Yeah not all of them are going apparently, presumably they're just being kept now as reserves. They seem to have really fixed up 39723 - it's lovely to drive now (well, it's lovely for one of them anyway) with its nearly new sterring wheel and pedals, and there's absolutely no warning lights on it. Be very surprised if that's not been kept or transferred.
Surprised if they don't - the first set of gas buses were supposed to be going too.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Madmackem22 - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 5:31 pm)Michael So with the Sunderland changes happening today and MANviro's supposed to be getting withdrawn, want to bet they're still out in service tomorrow?
39731/2 are apparently the only ones staying
Looked like a few of the gas buses had already gone this morning
On another note, I've noticed there is a price increase on day/mega riders etc due to start on the 9th
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 8:14 pm)Madmackem22 39731/2 are apparently the only ones staying
Looked like a few of the gas buses had already gone this morning
On another note, I've noticed there is a price increase on day/mega riders etc due to start on the 9th
Wonder why they're keeping them?
Where are the gas buses going?
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Ye, a £1.50 increase for the Megarider, disgrace really when they're cutting the services.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - F114TML - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 8:14 pm)Madmackem22 39731/2 are apparently the only ones staying
I hope not. 731's alright but 732 was absolutely dreadful last time I had it.
Speaking of the 3900s, anyone know why 716 is an 09-plate, yet 715 and 717 are 58-plates?
Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tyresmoke - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 5:57 pm)Storx Surely it's upto Stagecoach not Durham CC / Tees Valley. If Stagecoach want to give the applicable element of the fare to cover the costs Durham would make from the fares then I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
Otherwise they're not going to let Stagecoach tickets on as Stagecoach can't be paid to run a service then make a profit off the fares at the same time.
When you’re running someone elses service you stick to their rules…
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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - stagecoachbusdepot - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 8:28 pm)F114TML I hope not. 731's alright but 732 was absolutely dreadful last time I had it.
Speaking of the 3900s, anyone know why 716 is an 09-plate, yet 715 and 717 are 58-plates?
The batch were delivered Feb to April 2009 so ended up with split registrations depending whether they entered service pre or post March 2009. They were mostly in line with fleet number order but with a couple of exceptions, 39702 being another to get 09 plates, for example.
(02 Jul 2023, 8:14 pm)Madmackem22 39731/2 are apparently the only ones staying
Looked like a few of the gas buses had already gone this morning
Interesting that its the newest of the gas buses that have been withdrawn. If it was down to hitting the 10 year warranty/refurb deadline for the gas tanks, you'd think they'd be taking the oldest off the road first.
Would also have made more sense to keep them in service for an extra week to enable the loan of a few deckers to Hartlepool to cover tall ships loadings on their services down there.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Madmackem22 - 02 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 8:28 pm)Michael Wonder why they're keeping them?
Where are the gas buses going?
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Ye, a £1.50 increase for the Megarider, disgrace really when they're cutting the services.
First bus have bought them
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 03 Jul 2023
(02 Jul 2023, 9:15 pm)Madmackem22 First bus have bought them
Thanks for the info, which part of First bus?, as I think theres a few depots with gas buses
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Madmackem22 - 03 Jul 2023
(03 Jul 2023, 4:54 am)Michael Thanks for the info, which part of First bus?, as I think theres a few depots with gas buses
I'm not sure
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 03 Jul 2023
Temporary Timetable changes to Hartlepool's 6/7 from Thursday 6th July until Saturday 8th July
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-30/06/2023-17:24:18:165
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - col87 - 03 Jul 2023
(03 Jul 2023, 9:28 am)Kuyoyo Temporary Timetable changes to Hartlepool's 6/7 from Thursday 6th July until Saturday 8th July
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-30/06/2023-17:24:18:165
Fantastic planning cut it down to 12 minutes now with the same small buses with more people likely to use them and delays expected. I do wonder if the management have a clue or even care at times.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 09 Jul 2023
(12 Jun 2023, 11:04 am)Kuyoyo All bar the 35 changes are now listed on Bus Times' Cleveland Transit LTD registration page and it seems some of the rumours are off the mark
10: Monday to Sunday service. Peak Monday to Friday journeys advanced/retarded with additional running times to provide greater reliability due to prevailing traffic conditions. No changes to off peak or weekend times.
12: Monday to Sunday service. Monday to Saturday daytime frequency reduced to every 15 minutes.
13/13A: Monday to Sunday service. Monday to Saturday daytime frequency reduced to hourly.
13B: Journey to operate from Middlesbrough Bus Station to Acklam Hall Drive and to operate on Schooldays Only
34: Monday to Sunday service. Greater reliability at peaks. No changes to off peak or weekend times.
36/37/38: Monday to Sunday services. Minor changes to service 37 on Sunday mornings to improve reliability.
39: Monday to Sunday service. To operate via Wilson St towards Mboro Bus Stn. Minor changes to pm Monday to Friday peak times to improve reliability.
52: Monday to Sunday service.Monday to Saturday daytime frequency reduced to every 20 minutes. The service will be operationally linked to service 61 on most occasions.
57/58/58A: Minor changes to timetable. Some early morning Monday to Friday journeys previously 58A to be replaced with approximately equivalent service 58 journeys.
59: Monday to Sunday service.Minor changes to timetables and daytime frequency to continue at every 15 minutes daytimes. No longer operationally linked to service 61 in most cases. Minor changes to pm peak schooltime journeys to improve reliability.
61: Monday to Sunday service. Monday to Saturday daytime frequency reduced to every 20 minutes. The service will be operationally linked to service 52 on most occasions.
1: Monday to Sunday service. Minor changes to Monday to Friday timetable. Certain am journeys retimed slightly to cater for changes to start time at High Tunstall College.
3/3A: Monday to Saturday service. One Monday to Friday am journey retimed slightly to cater for changes to start time at High Tunstall College.
6: Monday to Sunday service. Monday to Saturday daytime frequency reduced to every 12 minutes. The service will continue to be operationally linked to service 7 on most occasions.
7: Monday to Sunday service. Monday to Saturday daytime frequency reduced to every 12 minutes. The service will continue to be operationally linked to service 6 on most occasions.
20/980: Monday to Friday service. 0702 ex Headland journey retimed to operate at 0657 and operate 5 minutes earlier throughout.
Timetables are now showing on Bus Times, with some other interesting unmentioned changes:
12: Saturday afternoon frequency reduced to every 20 minutes after 1430 from Middlesbrough and 1508 from Coulby Newham
52: Evening journeys, except the last departure from Stockton at 2320, are revised to leave Stockton 4 minutes later than present but reach Owington Farm 3 minutes later than present. Inbound, they run 1 minutes later. Likewise, Sunday morning journeys from Owington Farm towards Stockton now run 2 minutes earlier
57/58: Weekday afternoon frequency is random - running every 18 minutes after 2pm until 1545 when it reverts to every 15 minutes (although the 1548 and 1603 departures are both 57s) before dropping to roughly every 20 after 5pm. Saturdays remain as now. On Sundays, the 1827 from the Castlegate is retimed to run a minute later throughout to match the rest of the evening journeys
59: Saturday afternoon frequency reduced to every 20 minutes after 1500 from North Tees and 1530 from Stockton. Additionally on Saturday morning, the first two departures from North Tees continue to terminate at the Royal Oak end and continuing on as a 61
RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 14 Jul 2023
Changes to Sunderland services 99 & 939 from Monday 24 July 2023
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-14/07/2023-17:19:48:945
looks like Stagecoach are still running the 6:55am from Sunderland Interchange and 16:38pm from Teams Valley