(09 Feb 2024, 10:24 pm)Malarkey I wonder if this has something to do the Peter Hogg dropping the 131 for the new X74 which from looking does not serve Newcastle Airport like the 131 did and is bypassing like the X78 does.

(09 Feb 2024, 10:24 pm)Malarkey I wonder if this has something to do the Peter Hogg dropping the 131 for the new X74 which from looking does not serve Newcastle Airport like the 131 did and is bypassing like the X78 does.

Looks like we are also seeing service cuts/re-registrations of services with lost links being propped up a with **New Service** which essentially duplicates what already, likelihood is this 787 will not last long and we will see the X74 or X78 serve Newcastle Airport which would be the better more cost effective option all round, I would also extend the X78 down to Central Station to provide connections from the Airport to Regional/National Rail Services.

Other alternatives I'd suggest would be extending the existing Stagecoach X87/X88 from Westerhope to Newcastle Airport via Callerton, this would provide those in Callerton a direct express bus service as currently they have a limited Go North East 74 Service, I'd have suggested extending the 63 however as we all know this service is long enough as it is in it's current formot.

(09 Feb 2024, 10:40 pm)Storx I have a feeling that more services will serve the area when the roads are complete. There's a new loop being build, what buses they'll be who knows though. The 71/72/87 would probably be the best though to get in there somehow.

https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2019-01/callerton_masterplan_final_october_2016_web.pdf - Plans are in there, and it hasn't changed as far as I'm aware (note the 63 extension which happened).

(09 Feb 2024, 11:12 pm)Thomas12 Hasn’t the 63 already been extended to Callerton? Or are you referring to something else?

(09 Feb 2024, 11:12 pm)Thomas12 Hasn’t the 63 already been extended to Callerton? Or are you referring to something else?

• East Middle Callerton, which is the 63 one
  
• Lower Middle Callerton, which I assume will be the 62 or 71 or even both rather them turning around.
  
• Callerton loop all around, which could be multiple services. It can only really realistically be the 71/87 or X87/X88 on an extented route, but it'll leave one end of the Newbiggin Hall scrapped, if they do the second.
  

(09 Feb 2024, 10:24 pm)Malarkey I wonder if this has something to do the Peter Hogg dropping the 131 for the new X74 which from looking does not serve Newcastle Airport like the 131 did and is bypassing like the X78 does.

Looks like we are also seeing service cuts/re-registrations of services with lost links being propped up a with **New Service** which essentially duplicates what already, likelihood is this 787 will not last long and we will see the X74 or X78 serve Newcastle Airport which would be the better more cost effective option all round, I would also extend the X78 down to Central Station to provide connections from the Airport to Regional/National Rail Services.

Other alternatives I'd suggest would be extending the existing Stagecoach X87/X88 from Westerhope to Newcastle Airport via Callerton, this would provide those in Callerton a direct express bus service as currently they have a limited Go North East 74 Service, I'd have suggested extending the 63 however as we all know this service is long enough as it is in it's current formot.

(10 Feb 2024, 11:14 am)MurdnunoC I believe Storx is referring to roads which may act as a thoroughfare once the development is completed. Although plans sometimes change as time goes passes and unforseen (usually costly) challenges are discovered, it appears a road will exist between the Newbiggin Hall/Bank Foot interchange of the A696 that will run through the northern parts of the development (Upper and Middle Callerton) ending at the new roundabout at the top of North Wallbote Road. As the development is quite expansive (for the North East anyway), I imagine, at the very least, the 63 will find probably its way towards Bank Foot and, perhaps, onto either Kingston Park or the Airport.

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(10 Feb 2024, 11:19 am)Storx Yeah there's 3 extensions planned on the plans:

• East Middle Callerton, which is the 63 one
  
• Lower Middle Callerton, which I assume will be the 62 or 71 or even both rather them turning around.
  
• Callerton loop all around, which could be multiple services. It can only really realistically be the 71/87 or X87/X88 on an extented route, but it'll leave one end of the Newbiggin Hall scrapped, if they do the second.
  

That's the diagram there, light blue dotted lines are new routes. The 63 being the little loop one to the right of the East Middle Callerton label.

Mind you could split the X87/X88 loop here and extend it with potentially just one bus (shouldn't take longer than 10 minutes) and should deal with it, quite the potential to gain a few passengers from it. Who knows though, it's the most sensible one though without seriously reducing links.

(10 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm)Thomas12 Ah okay that makes sense cheers, I didn't get a chance to look at the document so that's a useful summary.

(09 Feb 2024, 6:18 pm)Michael More changes have appeared from the same day:

PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3940 (40, 39) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12n (12, 12) Two Ball Lonnen Walker or Wallsend

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/4
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22 (22, 22X) Cobalt Business Park Throckley

PB0002404/401
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 685HN (685) Newcastle Eldon Square Hexham Bus Station

PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington

PB0002404/402
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 685HH (685) Hexham Bus Station Haltwhistle Market Place

PB0002404/403
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 685 (685) Haltwhistle Market Place Carlisle Bus Station

(10 Feb 2024, 12:20 pm)Storx No worries, I came across it a few month back when looking for where on earth the 63 was going since, at the time, there wasn't a bus stop in the area.

That's the Newbiggin Hall side of the development plans btw in more detail - https://www.taylorwimpey.co.uk/new-homes/newcastle-upon-tyne/upper-callerton

Quite a sizeable development as MurdunoC said, 1,6k homes, and that's only that quadrant, so probably in their interest to actually serve it.

(10 Feb 2024, 8:46 pm)Andreos1 I'm struggling to imagine an operator going and actually serving a housing development. 

Kudos to them.

(10 Feb 2024, 8:48 pm)Dan Most operators do when S106 funding is available… we’ve seen a fair few examples of this over the last few years, across the region.

Afraid your kudos is slightly misplaced, Andreos.


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(10 Feb 2024, 9:33 pm)Andreos1 You're saying there's as much commercial savviness at SNE Towers as there is elsewhere?

Mind blown Daniel. Mind blown.

(10 Feb 2024, 3:34 pm)V514DFT 24th March by anychance?, the 37/38 would tie in with GNE and their changes to the Rocket Services

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Also please no more mucking around with the 62/63, its going to be in the mud at this rate, ideally they need another service to work hand in hand with the 62/63

(10 Feb 2024, 3:34 pm)V514DFT 24th March by anychance?, the 37/38 would tie in with GNE and their changes to the Rocket Services

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Also please no more mucking around with the 62/63, its going to be in the mud at this rate, ideally they need another service to work hand in hand with the 62/63

(09 Feb 2024, 6:18 pm)Michael More changes have appeared from the same day:

PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3940 (40, 39) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker

PB0002404/3
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12n (12, 12) Two Ball Lonnen Walker or Wallsend

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/4
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22 (22, 22X) Cobalt Business Park Throckley

PB0002404/401
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 685HN (685) Newcastle Eldon Square Hexham Bus Station

PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington

PB0002404/402
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 685HH (685) Hexham Bus Station Haltwhistle Market Place

PB0002404/403
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 685 (685) Haltwhistle Market Place Carlisle Bus Station

(09 Feb 2024, 4:35 pm)Thomas12 New 787 service from Newcastle to the Airport - no details on what route it will take

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/619824/

(12 Feb 2024, 10:17 pm)Michael https://bustimes.org/licences/PB0002404

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New Service, operating early morning daily.

(13 Feb 2024, 6:33 pm)tyresmoke Would assume it’s going to be more or less direct from town operating when Metro doesn’t… ie 3am-6am


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(13 Feb 2024, 8:10 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Would there be much demand then?  What time do flights start?

(13 Feb 2024, 8:10 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Would there be much demand then?  What time do flights start?