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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 29 Mar 2016

PB0001987/21 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stockton High Street and Stockton High Street given service number 58 effective from 23-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 30 Mar 2016

(29 Mar 2016, 9:52 am)Michael PB0001987/21 - CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stockton High Street and Stockton High Street given service number 58 effective from 23-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Wonder if this is the Durham Road closure.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 30 Mar 2016

Closure of Pallion Subway (Southbound) - from 6 April 2016 - affecting Services 11 and 19
30 Mar 2016
The work will commence on 6 April, and last approximately 3 days. This is due to the construction of the new Wear Bridge.



The services will be diverted as follows:



Services 11 and 19 – from the roundabout near Pallion Metro Station, the service will divert straight up European Way, down St Luke’s Road, serving Pallion, then rejoining original route. Service 11 from the terminus towards the City Centre, and Service 18 will not be affected.



Whilst we will endeavour to minimise any disruption, Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience or delays this temporary road closure may cause, which is due to circumstances beyond our control.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 11 Apr 2016

Loads of upcoming Sunderland changes..............

PB0002404/16 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Pennywell and Grangetown given service number 10/11 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/17 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Red House Estate and Hastings Hill given service number 16 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between City Centre and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/19 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fawcett Street Sunderland and Pennywell given service number 20 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/20 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Town End farm, Hylton Castle and Doxford Park given service number 13/12/3 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/48 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Dene Estate and Thorney Close given service number 23 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/60 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Downhill and Doxford Park given service number 4 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/76 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland City Centre and South Hylton given service number 8 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002404/77 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland John Street and Doxford International given service number X1 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Docks or City and Doxford Park given service number 5 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/281 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Fawcett Street and Sunderland Fawcett Street given service number 12 effective from 05-Jun-2016.

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I thought the 5A would be dropped, i would imagine the Docks part is the 77A?. 


22nd May for the GNE changes 
5th June for the Stagecoach changes

I thought they would of wanted them to change on the same day, especially when the GNE service 33 will be going down the docks and the NEXUS contract changes.


Does this mean we will see the 5/5A and the 33 going down to docks until the Stagecoach changes come in to force?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Apr 2016

Some more info on the 5/5A for the City Centre route:

The route of daytime westbound buses will take in bus stops on John Street and Holmeside.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - AIG20 - 12 Apr 2016

(11 Apr 2016, 8:38 am)Michael Loads of upcoming Sunderland changes..............

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PB0002404/281 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Fawcett Street and Sunderland Fawcett Street given service number 12 effective from 05-Jun-2016.

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I thought the 5A would be dropped, i would imagine the Docks part is the 77A?. 


22nd May for the GNE changes 
5th June for the Stagecoach changes

I thought they would of wanted them to change on the same day, especially when the GNE service 33 will be going down the docks and the NEXUS contract changes.


Does this mean we will see the 5/5A and the 33 going down to docks until the Stagecoach changes come in to force?

I don't think 22079-82 have long left at Sunderland!


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Dan - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 4:46 pm)AIG20 I don't think 22079-82 have long left at Sunderland!

I don't think service 12 will be withdrawn completely - it is in a combined registration with services 3 and 13. See below:

PB0002404/20 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Variation Accepted: Operating between Town End farm, Hylton Castle and Doxford Park given service number 13/12/3 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


This would suggest that Stagecoach are going to aim to co-ordinate a streamlined frequency with these services, on the shared corridors. Services 12/13 from Sainsbury's at Silksworth through to the City Centre, and likewise services 3/13 from the City Centre through to Hylton Castle.

The result of changing the timetable on services 3 and 13 will undoubtedly result in changes to other services, due to the interworking pattern. Services 4 and X1 both have runs which are formed by the vehicles on services 3 and 13, if I recall correctly.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 4:52 pm)Dan I don't think service 12 will be withdrawn completely - it is in a combined registration with services 3 and 13. See below:

PB0002404/20 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Variation Accepted: Operating between Town End farm, Hylton Castle and Doxford Park given service number 13/12/3 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


This would suggest that Stagecoach are going to aim to co-ordinate a streamlined frequency with these services, on the shared corridors. Services 12/13 from Sainsbury's at Silksworth through to the City Centre, and likewise services 3/13 from the City Centre through to Hylton Castle.

The result of changing the timetable on services 3 and 13 will undoubtedly result in changes to other services, due to the interworking pattern. Services 4 and X1 both have runs which are formed by the vehicles on services 3 and 13, if I recall correctly.

I thought all the above services ran every 5 minutes combined anyway between: 

Services 12/13 from Sainsbury's at Silksworth through to the City Centre
Services 3/13 from the City Centre through to Hylton Castle.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - biglugs@yahoo.com - 12 Apr 2016

(11 Apr 2016, 8:38 am)Michael Loads of upcoming Sunderland changes..............

PB0002404/16 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Pennywell and Grangetown given service number 10/11 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/17 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Red House Estate and Hastings Hill given service number 16 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between City Centre and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/19 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fawcett Street Sunderland and Pennywell given service number 20 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/20 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Town End farm, Hylton Castle and Doxford Park given service number 13/12/3 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/48 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Dene Estate and Thorney Close given service number 23 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/60 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Downhill and Doxford Park given service number 4 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/76 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland City Centre and South Hylton given service number 8 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002404/77 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland John Street and Doxford International given service number X1 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Docks or City and Doxford Park given service number 5 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/281 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland Fawcett Street and Sunderland Fawcett Street given service number 12 effective from 05-Jun-2016.

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I thought the 5A would be dropped, i would imagine the Docks part is the 77A?. 


22nd May for the GNE changes 
5th June for the Stagecoach changes

I thought they would of wanted them to change on the same day, especially when the GNE service 33 will be going down the docks and the NEXUS contract changes.


Does this mean we will see the 5/5A and the 33 going down to docks until the Stagecoach changes come in to force?
How is the 18/19 ternamiting in city center when they go to seaburn?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 7:32 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com How is the 18/19 ternamiting in city center when they go to seaburn?

I think its just how Stagecoach have sent it to VOSA as its a Loop service.

Edit:

I looked back at previous changes and found the last change to the 18/19 on Vosa:


B0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Grindon and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 31-May-2015. To amend Timetable.

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Not sure why the registration has changed for it!


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - mrnut85 - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 7:39 pm)Michael I think its just how Stagecoach have sent it to VOSA as its a Loop service.

Edit:

I looked back at previous changes and found the last change to the 18/19 on Vosa:


B0002404/18 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Grindon and Grindon given service number 18/19 effective from 31-May-2015. To amend Timetable.

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Not sure why the registration has changed for it!
I think one of the main changes that will probably come in will be the reduction of 10 minute frequencies to 12 minute frequencies.

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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 8:18 pm)mrnut85 I think one of the main changes that will probably come in will be the reduction of 10 minute frequencies to 12 minute frequencies.

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Really?, that's surprising, most of the Sunderland services are busy and warrent a bus every 10 minutes.

I would think the 5/8/18/19 will stay every 30 minutes with the 10/11 staying every 15 minutes.

If the changes are the buses going to every 12 minutes, i wonder if this means the 12 will gain gas buses due to some of them becoming available, removing the darts and maybe the MAN buses from Sunderland.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - biglugs@yahoo.com - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 8:24 pm)Michael Really?, that's surprising, most of the Sunderland services are busy and warrent a bus every 10 minutes.

I would think the 5/8/18/19 will stay every 30 minutes.

If the changes are the buses going to every 12 minutes, i wonder if this means the 12 will gain gas buses due to some of them becoming available, removing the darts and maybe the MAN buses from Sunderland.

So what will the 12 route be running to now?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 8:29 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com So what will the 12 route be running to now?

Not sure, i think Mrnut works for Stagecoach so he'll know more than us but he can only say a limited amount of info at the moment.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - biglugs@yahoo.com - 12 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 8:32 pm)Michael Not sure, i think Mrnut works for Stagecoach so he'll know more than us but can only say a limited amount of info at the moment.

This is just an suggestion but could this happen?
The 12 to extend over from the town to town end farm via the road the old simplicity 36 took when it was every 12 mins?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Michael - 12 Apr 2016

PVRs if they drop to every 12 minutes: (Think it'll be right) also not incuding the likes of the 8/10/11/18/19 as they arent every 10 minutes.


3: 8 PVR
4: 9 PVR
12: 4 PVR
13: 9 PVR
16: 8 PVR
20: 4 PVR
23: 6 PVR

29/40 gas buses used.

Hopefully the other gas buses will go on my local route the 23 Wink

Taking the total gas buses used to 35/40, same as now.



Key: Bold is the current gas bus routes.


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 13 Apr 2016

(12 Apr 2016, 8:53 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com This is just an suggestion but could this happen?
The 12 to extend over from the town to town end farm via the road the old simplicity 36 took when it was every 12 mins?

The 12 is a popular and fast route from Silksworth to the city centre.
Surely it can't be axed??


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Andreos1 - 13 Apr 2016

(13 Apr 2016, 9:04 am)Acky81 The 12 is a popular and fast route from Silksworth to the city centre.
Surely it can't be axed??

Maybe the competition has had an effect on it?


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Acky81 - 13 Apr 2016

(13 Apr 2016, 9:50 am)Andreos1 Maybe the competition has had an effect on it?

I wouldn't call the 33 or 99 competition they always empty hence the axe of 33a and 99


RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Andreos1 - 13 Apr 2016

(13 Apr 2016, 9:53 am)Acky81 I wouldn't call the 33 or 99 competition they always empty hence the axe of 33a and 99

What about the 2?