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RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - beefcake - 27 Jul 2017 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/north-east/teesside-and-hartlepool-service-changes?hootPostID=eda93a0881efc6395e237f67a62d1b61 Summary of changes for Hartlepool/Teesside and opportunity to meet the team to discuss RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 27 Jul 2017 (17 Jul 2017, 10:18 pm)Kuyoyo Times are now available on Traveline: And now with the new details: 10: New later journeys from Middlesbrough at 1835 1910 and 2015. Sunday journeys run at the same times as the current 10a 34: Sunday journeys introduced - departing Middlesbrough at xx05 with the last departure at 1710 RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 28 Jul 2017 (27 Jul 2017, 1:18 pm)beefcake https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/north-east/teesside-and-hartlepool-service-changes?hootPostID=eda93a0881efc6395e237f67a62d1b61 Service unavailable 'due to a system outage'! RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 01 Aug 2017 New Teesside Timetables now online https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-01/08/2017-13:54:20:373 Confirms that Teesside's PVR change is -1 - the 12 appears to be a 7 vehicle working judging by the timetable. EDIT: Also seems the 35 will still interwork with the 52, with certain 52s getting a 10 minute layover in Stockton. EDIT2: And Hartlepool's can be found here: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-01/08/2017-13:44:53:845 RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - glen1234 - 01 Aug 2017 Thank for info mate RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - busmanT - 01 Aug 2017 (01 Aug 2017, 3:27 pm)Kuyoyo New Teesside Timetables now onlineHartlepool PVR looks like -4 : 2 off the 1 and 2 off the 3/4 RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 02 Aug 2017 (01 Aug 2017, 3:27 pm)Kuyoyo New Teesside Timetables now online They said at the Stockton bus forum the 35 will stand alone. (01 Aug 2017, 8:14 pm)busmanT Hartlepool PVR looks like -4 : 2 off the 1 and 2 off the 3/4 That's convenient with four Darts left! RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - James101 - 02 Aug 2017 Hartlepool's upcoming evening 7s are on an odd timetable! Southbound, buses run Middlegate to Owton Manor, as per daytime - simple. Northbound, buses terminate in the town centre (York Road), then continue to Clavering as service 6. Upon returning as a 6, buses terminate at Grand Hotel where they then pick up the other half of the 7 they earlier abandoned. The outcome is passengers on the 7 which intend to travel north across the town will be booted off at York Road and will have 9 minutes to complete a quarter-mile walk to pick up the second half of the 7. Confusion also arrises as the drop-off stands for the 6 are completely separate from the pick-up stands. I can't see this helping sustainability of these evening services. I can't help a better way of working would have been the have the 7 stand alone and add the 6 onto the end of the 36. This way everything could match their daytime routes and daytime stops, other than the 36 dropping off at York Rd rather than Park Rd. PVR could be the same too, as the extra 37 mins added the the 36 by returning to Clavering could be covered by 1 extra bus, if the 36/37/38 were to all interwork at Middlesbrough. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 03 Aug 2017 (02 Aug 2017, 10:55 pm)James101 Hartlepool's upcoming evening 7s are on an odd timetable! BIB: the evening runs on 36/37/38 don't interwork with each other in Middlesbrough on an evening - the 36 and 37 are stand alone using 4 and 1 respectively while the 38 interworks with the 12. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 03 Aug 2017 They could easily change it. (02 Aug 2017, 10:55 pm)James101 Hartlepool's upcoming evening 7s are on an odd timetable! That's ridiculous! RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - James101 - 03 Aug 2017 (03 Aug 2017, 2:40 am)Kuyoyo BIB: the evening runs on 36/37/38 don't interwork with each other in Middlesbrough on an evening - the 36 and 37 are stand alone using 4 and 1 respectively while the 38 interworks with the 12. Aye, I meant the interworking pattern would have to change to accommodate hypothetically adding the 6 into the mix. Though, it could be possible to have a 36/6 pattern using just 5 buses. By eliminating the Park Road/Stockton Street loop and having town-bound 6s terminate via Raby Road (alike Arriva's 23) for the 36 to commence opposite Grand Hotel - a few minutes can be shaved from the current timetables. A return M'Boro-H'pool-Clavering-H'pool-M'Boro could be completed in 145 mins, i.e PVR 5. (03 Aug 2017, 3:16 pm)Cock Robin They could easily change it. That's Stagecoach! Reminds me of when the twilight 7s were split at York Road by operator - Stagecoach took you from Middlegate to Town, Arriva took over for the Town - Manor section. Were tickets inter-available? Of course not. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 10 Aug 2017 (01 Aug 2017, 3:27 pm)Kuyoyo New Teesside Timetables now online Having looked through the timetables myself I get that the PVR will remain the same...the 10/11 loses 1 bus as does the 12 while the 14/34 gain a bus (though no longer interwork) as do the 35/52/58 (though again no longer interworking) - and if the 35 and 52 are standalone then another bus would be required taking it up to an overall +1. Service 52 Departs Stockton 09:08 Service 52 Arrives Stockton 10:28 Service 35 Departs Stockton 10:31 Service 35 Arrives Stockton 11:36 Service 52 Departs Stockton 11:38 Therefore 09:08 09:38 10:08 10:38 11:08 - 5 buses Service 52 Departs Stockton 09:23 Service 52 Arrives Stockton 10:43 Service 52 Departs Stockton 10:53 Therefore 09:23 09:53 10:23 - 3 buses 8 buses required, +4 from service 58 is 12 - current 35/52/58 is 11 (according to one of your previous posts) Or Standalone Service 52 Departs Stockton 09:08 Service 52 Arrives Stockton 10:28 Service 52 Departs Stockton 10:38 Therefore 09:08 09:23 09:38 09:53 10:08 10:23 - 6 buses Service 35 Departs Stockton 09:01 Service 35 Arrives Stockton 10:06 Service 35 Departs Stockton 10:31 Therefore 09:01 09:31 10:01 - 3 buses 9 buses required, +4 from service 58 is 13 RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 10 Aug 2017 (10 Aug 2017, 7:30 pm)peter Having looked through the timetables myself I get that the PVR will remain the same...the 10/11 loses 1 bus as does the 12 while the 14/34 gain a bus (though no longer interwork) as do the 35/52/58 (though again no longer interworking) - and if the 35 and 52 are standalone then another bus would be required taking it up to an overall +1. I honestly can't see the 35 and 52 being standalone on the timetables provided - if the 35 was to be standalone, there's a serious amount of wasted resources with the 35s having 25 minute layovers in Stockton on every trip and the 52s having 10 minute layovers after every trip. So, I can take it as read that the 52/35 will remain as an interworking pattern. It is interesting to note then, that Stockton retains its PVR yet every other depot has seen reductions. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - peter - 10 Aug 2017 (10 Aug 2017, 7:43 pm)Kuyoyo I honestly can't see the 35 and 52 being standalone on the timetables provided - if the 35 was to be standalone, there's a serious amount of wasted resources with the 35s having 25 minute layovers in Stockton on every trip and the 52s having 10 minute layovers after every trip. So, I can take it as read that the 52/35 will remain as an interworking pattern. I agree, it does seem unrealistic for them to be standalone with such large layovers - especially when the recent trend at other depots has been a PVR decrease it would seem bizarre for a PVR increase simply to allow buses to sit around for up to 25 minutes at a time. Quite surprised that these changes haven't seen any PVR reductions given the number of services seeing frequency reductions and, as you say, the reduction at every other depot. Perhaps these changes may be testing the water with further cuts still to come! RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - BusLoverMum - 10 Aug 2017 (02 Aug 2017, 10:55 pm)James101 Hartlepool's upcoming evening 7s are on an odd timetable! That would be a pig for elderly people and those with disabilities. 1/4 mile isn't far for most of us, but my mother in law can't walk that far without getting seriously out of breath (hole in her heart) (My sister in law is another matter - she chooses never to walk as far as 1/4 mile, but she's also convinced that she'd get beaten up if she caught a bus!) RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Cock Robin - 11 Aug 2017 (10 Aug 2017, 9:00 pm)BusLoverMum That would be a pig for elderly people and those with disabilities. 1/4 mile isn't far for most of us, but my mother in law can't walk that far without getting seriously out of breath (hole in her heart) (My sister in law is another matter - she chooses never to walk as far as 1/4 mile, but she's also convinced that she'd get beaten up if she caught a bus!) I see the Fri & Sat night service is seeing a cut from 5 buses to 3. What's the betting when the quiet nights service doesn't take off they axe it again and leave the reduced service on a Fri & Sat. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - markydh - 14 Aug 2017 Newcastle changes In short, PVR on 6, 7, 8 increased by 1, 12 cut by 1. Unlike suggested a couple of weeks ago on this thread, the Sunday expresses do not see timetable decreases. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - Kuyoyo - 23 Sep 2017 As posted on Facebook by a Coulby Newham Councillor: From 13th November, the 10 will be revised to operate via Linthorpe Village instead of Longlands to reinstate the link to the One Life Centre for the residents along the former 11 route in Coulby Newham. They are further looking to reinstate a version of the 11 in the New Year and also reinstate a link to Stainton in what is likely to be a revamped version of the 13. RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - tyresmoke - 26 Sep 2017 PB0001987/1 Registered CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD Route: Middlesbrough Bus Station to Lingfield Park Service number: 11 (10) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 PB0001987/239 Registered CLEVELAND TRANSIT LTD Route: Hemlington or Stainton to Salters Lane Service number: 1313A (13, 13A) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 Just a guess but would appear they're going to re-route one 13 an hour to Stainton as a 13A, no longer serving Hemlington. I guess that's the best they can do without adding extra resource into it RE: Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes - markydh - 26 Sep 2017 PB0002404/89 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Newcastle, Pilgrim Street to Horsley Hill Service number: X34 (X34) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 PB0002404/311 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Sunderland to Newcastle Service number: X24 (X24, X24A) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 PB0002404/48 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Dene Estate to Thorney Close Service number: 23 (23) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 PB0002404/17 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Red House Estate to Hastings Hill Service number: 16 (16) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 PB0002404/60 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Downhill to Doxford Park Service number: 4su (4) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 PB0002404/77 Registered BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD Route: Sunderland John Street to Doxford International Service number: X1 (X1) Service type: Limited Stop Effective date: 19 Nov 2017 |