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RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 10 Apr 2019

Check out @Clinnick1’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Clinnick1/status/1115867470815014914?s=09

Interesting news Re Stagecoach and rail franchises.


RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 30 Apr 2019

https://procontract.due-north.com/Advert/Index?advertId=cb4f24ab-776a-e911-80f7-005056b64545

Changes ahead at Sunderland?


RE: Railways in General - Michael - 01 May 2019

(30 Apr 2019, 8:03 am)Andreos1 https://procontract.due-north.com/Advert/Index?advertId=cb4f24ab-776a-e911-80f7-005056b64545

Changes ahead at Sunderland?

Hopefully, the whole top floor needs a major makeover (like where burger king etc is)


RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 23 Jul 2019

https://www.bigplanbigchanges.co.uk/online-survey


RDG sessions move to the North East this week.




RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 29 Aug 2019

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/two-improvements-to-ensure-passengers-get-a-better-deal-on-rail-fares


Changes to ticketing, including section between Newcastle and Edinburgh




RE: Railways in General - idiot - 29 Aug 2019

Wow its cheaper to drive to Edinburgh instead if hopping on the train (obv not in advance that bad).

Will never get cars off the road at this rate.


RE: Railways in General - Michael - 12 Oct 2019

Few train contracts coming up for renewal in the next year or so...


CrossCounty - 18th October 2020
GWR - 31st March 2020
Southeastern - 31st March 2020

First Trenitalia to take over West Coast Main Line rail services from 8 December 2019. (as we knew)


Anyone got any information, on who's bid for what?


RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 12 Oct 2019

(12 Oct 2019, 10:27 am)Michael Few train contracts coming up for renewal in the next year or so...


CrossCounty - 18th October 2020
GWR - 31st March 2020
Southeastern - 31st March 2020

First Trenitalia to take over West Coast Main Line rail services from 8 December 2019. (as we knew)


Anyone got any information, on who's bid for what?


https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/public-register-of-rail-passenger-franchise-agreements


Here's a starting point for you.


On a connected note, rumours abound that Northern franchise may become available soon.




RE: Railways in General - Michael - 12 Oct 2019

(12 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm)Andreos1


https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/public-register-of-rail-passenger-franchise-agreements


Here's a starting point for you.


On a connected note, rumours abound that Northern franchise may become available soon.


Thanks, be interesting if Northern becomes available early.


RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 16 Oct 2019

(12 Oct 2019, 12:19 pm)Michael Thanks, be interesting if Northern becomes available early.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-50067806?__twitter_impression=true


Media seem to be picking up on comments made by Grant Shapps and drawing their own conclusions.





RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 21 Sep 2020

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54232015

Changes to the way franchising works.


RE: Railways in General - Adrian - 21 Sep 2020

(21 Sep 2020, 10:06 am)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54232015

Changes to the way franchising works.

This comment is very interesting: 

"In a statement, Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps said: "The model of privatisation adopted 25 years ago has seen significant rises in passenger numbers, but this pandemic has proven that it is no longer working."
He said the move to a new system would end "uncertainty and confusion about whether you are using the right ticket or the right train company"."


as is this:

"Meanwhile, train companies who operated franchises that were losing money before the pandemic, still owe money to the Department for Transport from those contracts. Although that thorny issue has been kicked down the road and the negotiations over past payments now need to be resolved by December."

I can't see any of these TOCs that owed money being in a position to pay it back, so I think once the support ends, we'll see a lot of contracts handed back. Covid aside, the franchise model just doesn't work.


RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 21 Sep 2020

(21 Sep 2020, 10:38 am)Adrian This comment is very interesting: 

"In a statement, Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps said: "The model of privatisation adopted 25 years ago has seen significant rises in passenger numbers, but this pandemic has proven that it is no longer working."
He said the move to a new system would end "uncertainty and confusion about whether you are using the right ticket or the right train company"."


as is this:

"Meanwhile, train companies who operated franchises that were losing money before the pandemic, still owe money to the Department for Transport from those contracts. Although that thorny issue has been kicked down the road and the negotiations over past payments now need to be resolved by December."

I can't see any of these TOCs that owed money being in a position to pay it back, so I think once the support ends, we'll see a lot of contracts handed back. Covid aside, the franchise model just doesn't work.

Yes, some interesting comments. It will be interesting to see what emerges over the next few months. Particularly from a vfm/taxpayer perspective


RE: Railways in General - citaro5284 - 18 Oct 2020

Quite a good write up from Roger French - Rail rhetoric -v- rail reality

https://busandtrainuser.com/2020/10/05/rail-rhetoric-v-rail-reality/?fbclid=IwAR0YgsCBdZMTSy30lcT9eBpdILhE6MfwMyvIiJC63HVRgrzY8AZvFj-iYFs


RE: Railways in General - Andreos1 - 28 Jun 2021

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57642027

Fire and explosion at Elephant and Castle.


RE: Railways in General - Adrian - 28 Jun 2021

(28 Jun 2021, 2:34 pm)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57642027

Fire and explosion at Elephant and Castle.

Hope everyone is safe.

Presently being reported that "The cause of the fire is currently unknown but the Met said it was "not believed to be terror related"."


RE: Railways in General - idiot - 02 Jul 2021

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/yorkshire-train-journeys-take-longer-20940155

Just read this!


RE: Railways in General - Storx - 02 Jul 2021

(02 Jul 2021, 8:40 pm)idiot https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/yorkshire-train-journeys-take-longer-20940155

Just read this!

Delay Repay will have a big play in that aswell, I know it's not mentioned there. There's quite a few train routes which are timetabled longer than they need to be to avoid having to pay out especially when it involves potential bottlenecks like Leeds station. Crosscountry is really bad for it, it's amazing how much time they can catch up when they're allowed to do their full speed. One I was on awhile back made up around 30 mins from Sheffield to Newcastle.


RE: Railways in General - 54APhotography - 03 Jul 2021

(02 Jul 2021, 8:40 pm)idiot https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/yorkshire-train-journeys-take-longer-20940155

Just read this!
I made a point to the top man in LNER that the 'acceleration' of Azuma services to Newcastle actually fell three minutes below the fastest timed run a Deltic achieved in 1978....


RE: Railways in General - Malarkey - 02 Sep 2021

Does anyone with a knowledge of trains know if it would be possible to have a train go from Newcastle to London via Oxford.

Just curious as I was thinking of going to Oxford in a few weeks but LNER seems to suggest going into King's Cross then across to Paddington Station and get on the GWR to Oxford which seems a bit of chore to get there.