(16 May 2021, 11:16 pm)Ambassador Nope. That’s literally the opposite point.

Nexus secured services will never make commercial sense, ever, they are public service requirements. If they made cash or even had the vague possibility of turning a profit, then an operator would be there.

(17 May 2021, 5:01 am)Dan You see, I disagree. On the most part, you are correct, but we have seen success stories come of secured services in the past.

Go North East took the formerly Stagecoach-operated 5/5A Nexus services in Sunderland on commercially, after requesting passenger data for these services. Granted a lot of the passengers on these services around The Docks are elderly and have an ENCTS pass, but enough of those still adds up for the service to stand up on their own feet.

These services will never be high-profile and high-frequency routes, but they may get to a stage where they can turn a profit with a bit of a push.

You could argue that the onus isn’t on Nexus to promote and grow these services and as the local authority they are just maintaining socially necessary bus links, and that the onus is on bus operators (whether that be the existing operator running it under contract to Nexus, or an operator that wishes to take a punt).

Some of the Nexus services run through some very densely populated areas - some of them are areas where you’d expect high bus usage, council or those up to a certain value - although admittedly not all. It’s the type of the former where there’s probably more chance of something ever potentially being commercially viable.


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(17 May 2021, 9:05 am)ASX_Terranova The 29 comes to mind, cant think of any others though.

(17 May 2021, 11:47 am)Rob44 ahhh the 29. The first service of the day is run by GCT though. Is that the only secured run?

(17 May 2021, 12:27 pm)Andreos1 The same 29 which when it was a fully secured service - ran with incorrect allocations (euro rating and/or capacity) at times and sometimes didn't run at all, leaving big gaps in service.

(17 May 2021, 12:34 pm)Dan Did this happen commonly? Or as commonly as we find Nexus contracts nowadays running with incorrect allocations, or services being completely dropped?

(18 May 2021, 11:20 pm)Ambassador Judging by the furore on a Birtley Facebook page the 23 is equally suffering the brunt of GCTs lax approach to erm…well running a service.

40 minute waits, multiple runs missed and unanswered complaints to nexus….

(18 May 2021, 11:47 pm)6049 Have you got a link to that?

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(19 May 2021, 12:26 pm)Micheal Aaron Gct will take over the Little Coasters network. Do I want that. No as tons of people rely on these routes.

(19 May 2021, 12:29 pm)Rob44 are all " little coaster" routes secured by nexus?

(19 May 2021, 12:29 pm)Rob44 are all " little coaster" routes secured by nexus?

(19 May 2021, 1:33 pm)Rob44 So in reality GCT could only really attempt to win the evening and Sunday contacts from GNE... they could take over the full running of GNE commercial parts of the route?