(23 Dec 2017, 3:42 pm)Michael Like i said, Traveline isn't showing the full route.... so that's why i was wrong... Traveline is quite shite tbh.

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(24 Dec 2017, 10:52 am)Michael Map and Shuttle timetable have appeared for the closure of Timber Beach Road in Sunderland, due to roadworks, linking the new road and existing road together...

What bus will operate it, as the road where its turning at Bristol Street Motors on Alexandra Avenue is very tight.

(24 Dec 2017, 10:33 pm)Andreos1 One of the directors company cars?
Can't see anything in the current fleet get around that road at Bristol Street Motors... Even a loaned sprinter would struggle, particularly when a car transporter is parked up!

(27 Dec 2017, 5:37 pm)Michael A change to the DFDS shuttle bus on the 1st January 2018, Journeys from the DFDS Ferry Terminal towards Newcastle are timed to leave 15 minutes later than now.

New timetable here: https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/bus/327-GNE-010118.pdf

(03 Jan 2018, 1:35 pm)Michael Got an email about the upcoming changes on the 28th January but the link isn't working.

I would copy and paste them but the page would be massive, 
Screenshots will also spam the page

(03 Jan 2018, 3:52 pm)Jimmi Here's the info on service changs as I'm sure everyone wants to know them.

From 28 January 2018, there will be changes to a number of services. These changes are designed to improve reliability, and to better match where our services run with where people are travelling to.

Details of each of the changes are listed below, along with links to new timetables for each service.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 5
This service will be extended from Jarrow to North Shields via the Tyne Tunnel, replacing service 9 on this section of route.
Service 5 will no longer serve Morrisons in Jarrow.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will use stand B towards South Shields and stand D towards North Shields.
There will be minor changes to the timetable of journeys between Jarrow and South Shields as a consequence of this extended route.

Service 9
This service will continue to run up to every 20 minutes between Jarrow, The Boldons and Sunderland.
The section of route between Jarrow and North Shields will be replaced by service 5
From Jarrow, service 9 will now run to Lukes Lane Estate, via Argyle Street, Lyon Street, Hebburn Town Centre, Hartleyburn Estate and Monkton Lane Estate, replacing this section of services 88/88A.
From Sunderland, the service will be extended to Murton via New Seaham and Dalton Park, replacing service 61, and offering new cross-town connections.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will depart from Stand A towards Sunderland and Stand D towards Lukes Lane.
In Park Lane Interchange, the service will depart from Stand F towards Jarrow, and Stand C towards Murton.

Crusader 27 and new Crusader service 26
There will be more journeys to Newcastle, with buses between Newcastle and Jarrow now running up to every 10 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes, and every 15 minutes on Sunday daytimes. Journeys will continue to run every 30 minutes on evenings.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, journeys will run every 20 minutes as service 27 on the current route via Tyne Dock, and every 20 minutes as service 26 via Primrose, South Leam and South Tyneside Hospital, replacing this section of services 88 and 88A.
This offers new direct connections to Newcastle from areas such as York Avenue, Primrose and South Leam.
In Jarrow Bus Station, services 26 and 27 will use stand E towards Newcastle. Service 26 towards South Shields will use stand A, with service 27 towards South Shields using stand C.

Venture 30
A small number of early morning and early evening journeys are retimed.

See It Do It 35 and 36
There will be some changes to the times of some morning, early evening and Saturday journeys to improve reliability.
In Houghton-le-Spring, service 36 towards Chester-le-Street will now stop at stop number 31H05 instead of 31H04. Other stops in Houghton-le-Spring are unchanged.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 50
There will be minor changes to times to improve reliability.

Drifter 60
There will be minor changes to the times of a small number of journeys to improve reliability.

Black Cats 61
This service will be replaced by extended service 9.
The route of new service 9 will be the same as the current service 61, with buses running between Sunderland and Murton every 20 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes and every 30 minutes on evenings and Sundays.

Service 64
Due to low passenger numbers, the journey which departs Gateshead at 6.08pm on weekdays will no longer run.

Service 67
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability.

Service 69
The route of this service will be revised in Winlaton.
It will now run a one-way loop, running from Blaydon to Winlaton direct via Blaydon Bank, then returning from Winlaton to Blaydon on the current route via Parkhead Estate.
Anyone wishing to travel to Parkhead Estate will be able to stay on board the bus at Winlaton without the need to buy another ticket.
Evening and Sunday journeys will continue to run direct on Blaydon Bank in both directions.
There will be some minor changes to the timetable as a consequence of this revised route to improve reliability.

South Tyne 88 & 88A
We know services 88 and 88A have not been as reliable as they should be in recent months. We’ve been working hard to deliver a solution for this, and revised services in South Tyneside will not only improve reliability for all services involved, but also offer a number of new direct connections.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by new Crusader service 26.
Between Jarrow and Lukes Lane, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by service 9.
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Loop 93/94
The journey at 3.10pm from Gateshead on weekdays is retimed two minutes earlier.

Service 95
the journey at 5.46pm from Lobley Hill to Gateshead on weekdays will no longer run due to low passenger numbers.

New Service H1
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Metrocentre Mini M6, M7 & M8
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability, and offer more journeys in the afternoon from Metrocentre.
There will also be an extra journey on schooldays from Fellside Road (for Whickham School) to Burnopfield
The service will now observe all stops, including at Swalwell Monument and MetrOasis.

Wear Xpress X6 & X7
This service will now depart from Stand A in Sunderland Park Lane Interchange.
There are no other changes to this service.

ToonLink X30 & X31
Weekday journeys at 3.02pm and 3.17pm from Stanley are retimed two minutes earlier.

ToonLink X70 & X71
Weekday journey at 9.10am from Newcastle is retimed to 9am.

Tynedale Express X84 & X85
The are minor changes to the times of journeys to improve reliability.

(03 Jan 2018, 3:52 pm)Jimmi Here's the info on service changs as I'm sure everyone wants to know them.

From 28 January 2018, there will be changes to a number of services. These changes are designed to improve reliability, and to better match where our services run with where people are travelling to.

Details of each of the changes are listed below, along with links to new timetables for each service.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 5
This service will be extended from Jarrow to North Shields via the Tyne Tunnel, replacing service 9 on this section of route.
Service 5 will no longer serve Morrisons in Jarrow.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will use stand B towards South Shields and stand D towards North Shields.
There will be minor changes to the timetable of journeys between Jarrow and South Shields as a consequence of this extended route.

Service 9
This service will continue to run up to every 20 minutes between Jarrow, The Boldons and Sunderland.
The section of route between Jarrow and North Shields will be replaced by service 5
From Jarrow, service 9 will now run to Lukes Lane Estate, via Argyle Street, Lyon Street, Hebburn Town Centre, Hartleyburn Estate and Monkton Lane Estate, replacing this section of services 88/88A.
From Sunderland, the service will be extended to Murton via New Seaham and Dalton Park, replacing service 61, and offering new cross-town connections.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will depart from Stand A towards Sunderland and Stand D towards Lukes Lane.
In Park Lane Interchange, the service will depart from Stand F towards Jarrow, and Stand C towards Murton.

Crusader 27 and new Crusader service 26
There will be more journeys to Newcastle, with buses between Newcastle and Jarrow now running up to every 10 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes, and every 15 minutes on Sunday daytimes. Journeys will continue to run every 30 minutes on evenings.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, journeys will run every 20 minutes as service 27 on the current route via Tyne Dock, and every 20 minutes as service 26 via Primrose, South Leam and South Tyneside Hospital, replacing this section of services 88 and 88A.
This offers new direct connections to Newcastle from areas such as York Avenue, Primrose and South Leam.
In Jarrow Bus Station, services 26 and 27 will use stand E towards Newcastle. Service 26 towards South Shields will use stand A, with service 27 towards South Shields using stand C.

Venture 30
A small number of early morning and early evening journeys are retimed.

See It Do It 35 and 36
There will be some changes to the times of some morning, early evening and Saturday journeys to improve reliability.
In Houghton-le-Spring, service 36 towards Chester-le-Street will now stop at stop number 31H05 instead of 31H04. Other stops in Houghton-le-Spring are unchanged.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 50
There will be minor changes to times to improve reliability.

Drifter 60
There will be minor changes to the times of a small number of journeys to improve reliability.

Black Cats 61
This service will be replaced by extended service 9.
The route of new service 9 will be the same as the current service 61, with buses running between Sunderland and Murton every 20 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes and every 30 minutes on evenings and Sundays.

Service 64
Due to low passenger numbers, the journey which departs Gateshead at 6.08pm on weekdays will no longer run.

Service 67
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability.

Service 69
The route of this service will be revised in Winlaton.
It will now run a one-way loop, running from Blaydon to Winlaton direct via Blaydon Bank, then returning from Winlaton to Blaydon on the current route via Parkhead Estate.
Anyone wishing to travel to Parkhead Estate will be able to stay on board the bus at Winlaton without the need to buy another ticket.
Evening and Sunday journeys will continue to run direct on Blaydon Bank in both directions.
There will be some minor changes to the timetable as a consequence of this revised route to improve reliability.

South Tyne 88 & 88A
We know services 88 and 88A have not been as reliable as they should be in recent months. We’ve been working hard to deliver a solution for this, and revised services in South Tyneside will not only improve reliability for all services involved, but also offer a number of new direct connections.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by new Crusader service 26.
Between Jarrow and Lukes Lane, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by service 9.
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Loop 93/94
The journey at 3.10pm from Gateshead on weekdays is retimed two minutes earlier.

Service 95
the journey at 5.46pm from Lobley Hill to Gateshead on weekdays will no longer run due to low passenger numbers.

New Service H1
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Metrocentre Mini M6, M7 & M8
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability, and offer more journeys in the afternoon from Metrocentre.
There will also be an extra journey on schooldays from Fellside Road (for Whickham School) to Burnopfield
The service will now observe all stops, including at Swalwell Monument and MetrOasis.

Wear Xpress X6 & X7
This service will now depart from Stand A in Sunderland Park Lane Interchange.
There are no other changes to this service.

ToonLink X30 & X31
Weekday journeys at 3.02pm and 3.17pm from Stanley are retimed two minutes earlier.

ToonLink X70 & X71
Weekday journey at 9.10am from Newcastle is retimed to 9am.

Tynedale Express X84 & X85
The are minor changes to the times of journeys to improve reliability.

(03 Jan 2018, 7:44 pm)Andreos1 I find that H1 service almost laughable. I assume STH visiting times don't extend beyond mid-afternoon?

(03 Jan 2018, 7:41 pm)Panasonic44 [Crusader 27 and new Crusader service 26
There will be more journeys to Newcastle, with buses between Newcastle and Jarrow now running up to every 10 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes, and every 15 minutes on Sunday daytimes. Journeys will continue to run every 30 minutes on evenings.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, journeys will run every 20 minutes as service 27 on the current route via Tyne Dock, and every 20 minutes as service 26 via Primrose, South Leam and South Tyneside Hospital, replacing this section of services 88 and 88A.
This offers new direct connections to Newcastle from areas such as York Avenue, Primrose and South Leam.
In Jarrow Bus Station, services 26 and 27 will use stand E towards Newcastle. Service 26 towards South Shields will use stand A, with service 27 towards South Shields using stand C.]


Jarrow Stand A 26 should be with 27 @ stand C not to confuse people.

Anyword about Ticket prices and what services included? because they will need New Day & Weekly Ticket South Tyneside & Crusader?


[New Service H1
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.]

This service will not last for long due to 2:30pm end time esp with Hosptial Visting times in Afternoon 2 to 4pm and 7-8pm would have been better to end it at 8:30pm.

It should be 9am to 8:30pm non stop Hourly, serving Shields Town Centre, Hospital, Jarrow Bus Station and Hebburn Town Centre only. That would get more people using it? I think GNE may choose omnicity as stand in for 6 months if not they should use Solo bus.

(03 Jan 2018, 7:56 pm)Dan Of course; you'd also be assuming that there's a high demand for a direct service to the hospital from Hebburn, too, if you're suggesting that the current service level is better (or not as 'laughable'), providing a direct link between these two locations all day long.

I wonder what Go North East's ticket data would suggest? I would assume it suggests there isn't such a high demand, or they wouldn't be changing the services as they stand?

(03 Jan 2018, 8:59 pm)Andreos1 When Kickstart was giving support and Partnerships were launched, https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/south-tyneside-better-bus-network-launched it would be easy to assume that improvements would be made and maintained. Particularly with services that provided a social need.

Whilst I appreciate the 88 may have suffered with reliability over the last however many months, I wouldn't have guessed it would have caused so much damage that the service was no longer viable. Particularly one which has hundreds of people going in and out of the hospital building it passes on a daily basis - both before and after this H1 starts and finishes for the day.

Indeed, the excuses regarding reliability have been trotted out (despite the works at Lindisfarne being completed for a number of months), rather than any references to viability (as seen in the extract Jimmi provided regarding the 64/95).

It also looks like the H1 service is designed around scholars contracts (correct me if I am wrong).
Changes to suit GNE's agenda or one to accomodate passenger requirements?

(04 Jan 2018, 2:12 pm)S813 FVK Looks like we are finally starting to get somewhere regarding the details of the changes being officially published - the new timetables are being uploaded to the site.

The new 9 branding is certainly something...