Thought I'd kick this off since order for new buses for X1 due to be placed within the next month.

Thoughts people.....more DD to be ordered or do we think more singles this year....?

(20 Aug 2019, 9:53 am)streetdeckfan I'd really like to see some electric deckers, but I can't think of a route this would be viable on at the minute.

What I do think we'll see is quite a few orders for the 6 cylinder Streetdeck, and hopefully no more orders for the E400s!

I hope we are more E400 orders as they seem nice rather than the Gemini 3s (streetdecks are decent though)

(20 Aug 2019, 11:08 am)GNE6312

I hope we are more E400 orders as they seem nice rather than the Gemini 3s (streetdecks are decent though)

The Gemini 3s are far too loud and bumpy for my liking.

During CTBW I tried out Arriva's E400s on the X21 and wasn't impressed. My experience of ADL products in general is that the quality is just isn't as good as Wright, plus they just don't look as good.

I refer to my previous comment:

I don't think ADL have made a nice looking bus yet! The E200 looks like its having a stroke, and the E400 looks like it's had an allergic reaction!

I'm actually on one of Arriva's E400s now and it's bad. It rattles more than a Streetlite and the ride is harsher than a Streetdeck, the ceiling upstairs is way too low and I think the AC has asthma. The only positive thing I can come up with is the engine is a hell of a lot quieter than the Streetdeck.
I'm sure the ones I tried down in Southampton weren't this bad.

I get for routes like the X30, the low ceiling is a must for low bridges, but for routes that don't require it, why bother. And when you say something rattles more than a Streetlite, you know there's an issue!

(20 Aug 2019, 11:24 am)streetdeckfan

The Gemini 3s are far too loud and bumpy for my liking.

During CTBW I tried out Arriva's E400s on the X21 and wasn't impressed. My experience of ADL products in general is that the quality is just isn't as good as Wright, plus they just don't look as good.

I refer to my previous comment:

I don't think ADL have made a nice looking bus yet! The E200 looks like its having a stroke, and the E400 looks like it's had an allergic reaction!

I'm actually on one of Arriva's E400s now and it's bad. It rattles more than a Streetlite and the ride is harsher than a Streetdeck, the ceiling upstairs is way too low and I think the AC has asthma. The only positive thing I can come up with is the engine is a hell of a lot quieter than the Streetdeck.
I'm sure the ones I tried down in Southampton weren't this bad.

I get for routes like the X30, the low ceiling is a must for low bridges, but for routes that don't require it, why bother. And when you say something rattles more than a Streetlite, you know there's an issue!

Got to bare in mind that Arriva's are Voith examples whereas GNE would most likely order ZF gearboxes.

(20 Aug 2019, 9:30 am)NewcastleOne More Electrics

(20 Aug 2019, 5:43 pm)Michael I think we will see more Yutong's in the fleet.

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I think we will see more deckers on order again, the Omnicities and Versa's will stay for another few years, MG on Twitter a while back confirmed some of the Versa's will go for a refurbishment in the next 2 years.



14 Streetdeck's for the Red Arrow (2 spare)

Going to be honest, i can't see what would replaced on main stream services atm


It all depends how many Deckers get withdrawn with this years orders.

The 20 would be a good shout if the Volvo B9s are refurbished...

(20 Aug 2019, 6:01 pm)S830OFT

The 20 would be a good shout if the Volvo B9s are refurbished...

(20 Aug 2019, 6:24 pm)deanmachine Seems like a lot of B9s will be spare with nowhere obvious for them to go. They must have a plan for them somewhere.

(20 Aug 2019, 6:45 pm)Storx Enviro 200 MMC (Short) at Percy Main, Hexham or Riverside (M1/2/3) to replace some of the older solos. There's been a few trials of buses on the 19 now and the 58 plates are due for replacement (12 years for mini buses). Dan also mentioned that there's going to be investment in new buses at Hexham on the minis awhile back.

GNE may also gain the 613/815/882/885 services from PCL which are finishing in September, as I can't see any other operators doing them, unless Phoenix bid again...

(20 Aug 2019, 7:06 pm)S830OFT

GNE may also gain the 613/815/882/885 services from PCL which are finishing in September, as I can't see any other operators doing them, unless Phoenix bid again...

(20 Aug 2019, 7:22 pm)Dan Or indeed GNE could lose some of the Hexham tenders!

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(20 Aug 2019, 6:28 pm)Michael They'll replace the Omnidekka's on the front line services, moving the omnidekka's to a spare role, hopefully replacing those horrid presidents and Vykings....

I don't find anything wrong with the presidents but I hope the presidents replace the omnideckers 6135s suspension squeaks more than the brakes on a pacer and 6122 rattles as much as a streetlite

(25 Aug 2019, 1:45 pm)GNE6312

I don't find anything wrong with the presidents but I hope the presidents replace the omnideckers 6135s suspension squeaks more than the brakes on a pacer and 6122 rattles as much as a streetlite

I actually don't mind the Omnidekkas, at least the ones that I've been on anyway. For the most part they are quite refined and the ride is fairly good. There are a few terrible example though, I'll give you that

The only time I don't like the Omnidekkas is when it's boiling outside and there's 2 or 3 of them in a row on the X21, I refuse to sit on a non air-conditioned bus for 2 hours when it's 30 degrees outside, or when it's raining and water is pouring in through the ceiling.

(25 Aug 2019, 1:45 pm)GNE6312

I don't find anything wrong with the presidents but I hope the presidents replace the omnideckers 6135s suspension squeaks more than the brakes on a pacer and 6122 rattles as much as a streetlite

(07 Sep 2019, 12:01 pm)Michael Wonder if the new buses for the X1 have been finalised yet?

Have a feeling it'll be some sort of Electric decker.