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RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - deanmachine - 20 Jan 2021

Judging how easy something is to read when photos taken on a day like today is pretty funny. The livery looks fine, in person, the lettering is easy enough to read.

Only criticism is the fact that it's still an orange double decker, so doesn't stand out immediately as being that different to the Fab 56.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Dan - 20 Jan 2021

(20 Jan 2021, 10:21 pm)deanmachine Judging how easy something is to read when photos taken on a day like today is pretty funny. The livery looks fine, in person, the lettering is easy enough to read.

Only criticism is the fact that it's still an orange double decker, so doesn't stand out immediately as being that different to the Fab 56.

Yes, agreed. A photo will always be different to how it actually looks in reality too.

I think the only tricky thing with moving away from it being orange is that the 56 has always been orange. That's not to say it always has to remain orange going forward, but I think there has to be a pretty compelling case to move away from it. In this instance I'm not sure what that case would be. Reliability on service 56 is very good, so there's no need to move away from the colour to try and change the perception that it's a different/newer bus.

In a normal world, I think the orange double-decker will be perceived on Old Durham Road as being the bus that stops. Despite being some 10 months into the pandemic where express services have began to serve all stops on their route, I still don't think many people hail down an X1, as the perception was always that the red buses, now gold, don't stop.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Storx - 20 Jan 2021

(20 Jan 2021, 9:54 pm)L469 YVK No mention of Consett :)

Just trying to think more realistically rather than focus on Consett where the level of demand probably isn't established enough yet to make decisions given the current climate.

6045-47 being replaced by 6084-86 (if 6071-83 get refurbished) with 6001,49,50 as backups for TVT & Crusader would make more sense.

6043-48 would then go on the 25. The 25 is a "secondary route" to speak so if it was split from the 13, the PVR of 6 would be covered. At most, they'd just need a thorough deep clean & the ex TVT examples repainted.

Then whatever is remaining from 6149-61 (depending how many is needed on 93/94) could displace older B7TL's & OmniDekkas.

So the allocation's would be

Riverside:
- 10/10A/10B/10X = 9x B9TL 
- 27 = 11X B9TL
- Spare = 2x (as well as 6377 if not needed on X9/X10)

Hexham:
- 10/10A/10B/10X = 7x B9TL
- Spare = 1x (as well as either 6336/37 if not needed on X84/X85)

Chester Le Street:
- 25 = 6x B9TL
- Spare = ??? Anything would be fine for the 25

Be very surprised if the ex London deckers go onto school duties, they've had Euro 6 mods and I'll doubt that'll be allowed in their contract. Not think some of them might go on the 6 or have extra spares at Percy Main that do the 327 aswell btw. Easy way to clear some Citaro's off and wasn't it rumoured for the 09 Versa's to be going aswell which are at CLS atm and replaced the Omnicity's to Percy Main.

(20 Jan 2021, 10:28 pm)Dan Yes, agreed. A photo will always be different to how it actually looks in reality too.

I think the only tricky thing with moving away from it being orange is that the 56 has always been orange. That's not to say it always has to remain orange going forward, but I think there has to be a pretty compelling case to move away from it. In this instance I'm not sure what that case would be. Reliability on service 56 is very good, so there's no need to move away from the colour to try and change the perception that it's a different/newer bus.

In a normal world, I think the orange double-decker will be perceived on Old Durham Road as being the bus that stops. Despite being some 10 months into the pandemic where express services have began to serve all stops on their route, I still don't think many people hail down an X1, as the perception was always that the red buses, now gold, don't stop.

Not a dig or anything but you might want to announce that more, that's the first I've heard of that and the timetables online still has it as an express service.


RE: Ne14ne1 - streetdeckfan - 20 Jan 2021

(20 Jan 2021, 10:07 pm)mb134 Yet on some liveries, it's done brilliantly: https://flic.kr/p/2ke1jvA. Everything on that is visible easily (bar the "bring your bike" at the rear), there's a good contrast between the colour of the text and the base it's on top of. Look at that X-Lines, or any of them really, then at the CityRider and the ease of reading the text is night and day. 

I think it's been said before, but I think bus companies are becoming overreliant on Best Impressions. Some of their stuff is very good but some design elements are getting a bit stale and, with the amount they churn out, some designs will inevitably be poor.

It's really hit and miss. 
The cove vinyls on the VOLTRA buses are particularly horrendous. Some idiot decided that having a dark grey background with a slightly lighter dark grey writing was a good idea.  It's not. I physically could not read some of the writing


Go North East - Recent Repaints - Xlines 6335 - 21 Jan 2021

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Go North East Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini II 6154 has returned to service after repaint

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RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - streetdeckfan - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 11:04 am)Xlines 6335 [Image: 2a9a719afb9404fd846e39dbb09ed627.jpeg]
Go North East Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini II 6154 has returned to service after repaint

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I'm really not a fan of the new font they're using for the fleet numbers, looks very odd


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - logidoodah - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 11:04 am)Xlines 6335 [Image: 2a9a719afb9404fd846e39dbb09ed627.jpeg]
Go North East Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini II 6154 has returned to service after repaint

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Nice pic.  

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RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Storx - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 11:04 am)Xlines 6335 [Image: 2a9a719afb9404fd846e39dbb09ed627.jpeg]
Go North East Volvo B9TL Wright Eclipse Gemini II 6154 has returned to service after repaint

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That looks really bad imo and they've gone for the lazy approach that Arriva tend to do in house. The red/blue around the windows should be black as they're designed otherwise it gives a really weird look which looks even worse on that because of the air unit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/186695346@N05/50020443982/ - See the difference there and it looks much better imo.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - streetdeckfan - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 11:54 am)Storx That looks really bad imo and they've gone for the lazy approach that Arriva tend to do in house. The red/blue around the windows should be black as they're designed otherwise it gives a really weird look which looks even worse on that because of the air unit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/186695346@N05/50020443982/ - See the difference there and it looks much better imo.

I personally think it looks way better with it being red/blue. When it's just black it looks like they've missed a patch


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Andreos1 - 21 Jan 2021

(20 Jan 2021, 10:28 pm)Dan Yes, agreed. A photo will always be different to how it actually looks in reality too.

I think the only tricky thing with moving away from it being orange is that the 56 has always been orange. That's not to say it always has to remain orange going forward, but I think there has to be a pretty compelling case to move away from it. In this instance I'm not sure what that case would be. Reliability on service 56 is very good, so there's no need to move away from the colour to try and change the perception that it's a different/newer bus.

In a normal world, I think the orange double-decker will be perceived on Old Durham Road as being the bus that stops. Despite being some 10 months into the pandemic where express services have began to serve all stops on their route, I still don't think many people hail down an X1, as the perception was always that the red buses, now gold, don't stop.

The 56 has existed for I don't know how many years (40+?) and has only been orange for coming up 15 years - first with the Solars and then the B9's.
The 187 and 188 which was eventually merged with the 56 certainly weren't orange either. 

People who need the 56, will use the 56 - regardless of what colour it is.
It maybe makes it stand out in Sunderland, but beyond there, particularly from Nissan and beyond, it's just another bus and for a large proportion of the route, has various common sections.
To keep it orange, because its perceived to be the stopping bus on Old Durham Road seems crazy imo. Particularly as there's a stack of other stopping buses on Old Durham Road. There's blue ones, orange ones (x2), red ones (green on a Sunday) and whatever other colours of the rainbow are thrown about that week which all serve the stretch at one point or another and will get the majority to the same destination.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - JP6004 - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 11:54 am)Storx That looks really bad imo and they've gone for the lazy approach that Arriva tend to do in house. The red/blue around the windows should be black as they're designed otherwise it gives a really weird look which looks even worse on that because of the air unit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/186695346@N05/50020443982/ - See the difference there and it looks much better imo.
Gasket glazing always looks horrible regardless


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Storx - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 12:05 pm)JP6004 Gasket glazing always looks horrible regardless

Yeah agreed tbh, guessing they're cheaper no doubt.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Adtrainsam - 21 Jan 2021

Looks like GNE are repainting a Connections 4 Citaro at Saltmeadows. New brand or just a one off like the Peterlee Local Solo? Can't be the ex-Crusaders as other Citaros have the emergency exit door at the back...
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1352194395076964354


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - JP6004 - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 12:52 pm)Adtrainsam Looks like GNE are repainting a Connections 4 Citaro at Saltmeadows. New brand or just a one off like the Peterlee Local Solo? Can't be the ex-Crusaders as other Citaros have the emergency exit door at the back...
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1352194395076964354
The Peterlee Local isn't a one off and rest due to be done this year. Cant say citaros look good in pink....unlike those gorgeous angel omnicities


Go North East - Recent Repaints - Xlines 6335 - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 11:27 am)logidoodah Nice pic.  

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RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Storx - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 12:58 pm)JP6004 The Peterlee Local isn't a one off and rest due to be done this year. Cant say citaros look good in pink....unlike those gorgeous angel omnicities

https://www.flickr.com/photos/98620506@N05/48968170651 - They look alright in pink I think, similar colour aswell. Nice something bright for a change the blue was a bit drab and the connections 4 is a horrible brand.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - V514DFT - 21 Jan 2021

(20 Jan 2021, 9:53 pm)streetdeckfan Obviously that was aimed at me.
To be honest, I actually quite liked the orange/red combo, but having done a quick edit with a slightly lighter orange I have to admit I do prefer it. If anything, I think it stands out more.

I also never noticed that the GNE logo is yellow. That looks bloody ridiculous. Why not just make it white. 

In fact, the closer I look at it, the less I like it

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Original
[Image: 50856496237_5dca09158c_z.jpg]Go North East Cityrider 6090 / NL63 YHT by kieron mathews, on Flickr
Try ditching the Red and doing it in the lighter Orange see how that looks


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - JP6004 - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 1:41 pm)Storx https://www.flickr.com/photos/98620506@N05/48968170651 - They look alright in pink I think, similar colour aswell. Nice something bright for a change the blue was a bit drab and the connections 4 is a horrible brand.
Looked nice when they first arrived....7.5yrs ago. Think the 4 Citaro is more of a nipple pink  Tongue

Let's see what it looks like after it's finished


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - Michael - 21 Jan 2021

(21 Jan 2021, 12:52 pm)Adtrainsam Looks like GNE are repainting a Connections 4 Citaro at Saltmeadows. New brand or just a one off like the Peterlee Local Solo? Can't be the ex-Crusaders as other Citaros have the emergency exit door at the back...
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/1352194395076964354

Going by Bustimes.org (although not 100% accurate), 5358 hasn't been in service since the 15th January.

5365 - 18th January
5368 - hasn't been in service for a long time.


RE: Go North East - Recent Repaints - V514DFT - 21 Jan 2021

Pink,thats odd