(12 Nov 2022, 4:52 pm)glen Why didn't they go Newcastle in first place? Why now

(12 Nov 2022, 7:02 pm)Lollist Yeah cuz stocktons fleet was really unreliable then

(10 Nov 2022, 12:39 pm)ne14ne1 “BREAKING NEWS: Stagecoach have ordered 200 new @ADLbus Enviro400MMCs that will replace older buses in the fleet in: Oxford, Manchester, Yorkshire, Preston, Northampton, Mansfield, Portsmouth, Chichester, Winchester, Torquay, Folkestone and Newcastle”

https://twitter.com/cbwtweets/status/1590674256433598466?s=46&t=EEVe5v8rsI6XXJAgszgD4w

• 14 for Northampton to cover their services 1/2 to decker operation, replacing single deckers - due in May/June
  
• 23 for Preston for the 125 (Preston to Bolton via Chorley), replacing 24 Gold-spec Scania N230UD/Alexander Dennis Enviro400 from 2015
  
• Unknown number for Folkestone for service 16 (Hythe to Canterbury via Folkestone)
  
• 20 for Sheffield Holbrook depot, likely to displaced Enviro400Hs from either the 52 (Woodhosue to Crookes or Hillsborough via the City Centre) or the 120 (Halfway Tram Stop to Ranmoor or Fulwood via Crystal Peaks, Manor Top, City Centre and Hallamshire Hospital), and allow the replacement of the remaining Euro4 MAN 18.240/Alexander Dennis E300s at the various depots in the division (should only be the ex-West Scotland 2418x examples remaining - their transfer was due to them being Euro6, required for the Rawmarsh Hill CAZ) - due during the Summer
  

(13 Nov 2022, 3:28 am)toward6931 not really, Stockton had the 2014 and 2015 batches of E300s which i think all in all added up to nearly 50 buses, Newcastle before they got the 16?? 66 plate MMCs was palmed off with the 5 2008 E300s as replacements for the 2005 E300s, and also the 7 or maybe 8 kinetics, stagecoach being stagecoach dispensed with a lot of half decent ALX300s as a result before they realised that the replacements weren't all that good

(13 Nov 2022, 11:06 am)Kuyoyo So far reported on various other forums and Facebook groups are:

• 14 for Northampton to cover their services 1/2 to decker operation, replacing single deckers - due in May/June
  
• 23 for Preston for the 125 (Preston to Bolton via Chorley), replacing 24 Gold-spec Scania N230UD/Alexander Dennis Enviro400 from 2015
  
• Unknown number for Folkestone for service 16 (Hythe to Canterbury via Folkestone)
  
• 20 for Sheffield Holbrook depot, likely to displaced Enviro400Hs from either the 52 (Woodhosue to Crookes or Hillsborough via the City Centre) or the 120 (Halfway Tram Stop to Ranmoor or Fulwood via Crystal Peaks, Manor Top, City Centre and Hallamshire Hospital), and allow the replacement of the remaining Euro4 MAN 18.240/Alexander Dennis E300s at the various depots in the division (should only be the ex-West Scotland 2418x examples remaining - their transfer was due to them being Euro6, required for the Rawmarsh Hill CAZ) - due during the Summer
  

That's 57 with confirmed homes, leaving 143 to split between 9 depots.

(13 Nov 2022, 11:06 am)Kuyoyo So far reported on various other forums and Facebook groups are:

• 14 for Northampton to cover their services 1/2 to decker operation, replacing single deckers - due in May/June
  
• 23 for Preston for the 125 (Preston to Bolton via Chorley), replacing 24 Gold-spec Scania N230UD/Alexander Dennis Enviro400 from 2015
  
• Unknown number for Folkestone for service 16 (Hythe to Canterbury via Folkestone)
  
• 20 for Sheffield Holbrook depot, likely to displaced Enviro400Hs from either the 52 (Woodhosue to Crookes or Hillsborough via the City Centre) or the 120 (Halfway Tram Stop to Ranmoor or Fulwood via Crystal Peaks, Manor Top, City Centre and Hallamshire Hospital), and allow the replacement of the remaining Euro4 MAN 18.240/Alexander Dennis E300s at the various depots in the division (should only be the ex-West Scotland 2418x examples remaining - their transfer was due to them being Euro6, required for the Rawmarsh Hill CAZ) - due during the Summer
  

That's 57 with confirmed homes, leaving 143 to split between 9 depots.

(14 Nov 2022, 1:14 am)toward6931 i might just be biased but i think the 14 buses for Northampton for increasing capacity should be cascades from other areas, can almost guarantee that SNE  wouldn't receive new buses to do the same

(14 Nov 2022, 10:22 am)Storx Why? Stagecoach Midlands fleet is antique - it's desperate for investment. I'm assuming they'll be seeing off ALX400's or Dennis Darts. 

The 1/2 appear to ran by Deckers already though.

(14 Nov 2022, 10:22 am)Storx Why? Stagecoach Midlands fleet is antique - it's desperate for investment. I'm assuming they'll be seeing off ALX400's or Dennis Darts. 

The 1/2 appear to ran by Deckers already though.

(14 Nov 2022, 8:16 pm)toward6931 to be honest I'm inclined to disagree agree because of two reasons, firstly SNE was always a lot higher in the league tables for profitably than midlands, but the northeast hasn't always benefitted from their profits.

secondly as for the antique part yes, they have quite a few older buses however the oldest double decks in the midlands division i believe are the 2004 tridents, only 3 years older than SNEs oldest double decks however, because of our problems with E200s SNE have actively been acquiring darts. and thirdly i know SNE is the only division still using ALX300s in passenger service, there's around 20 ranging from 2003 reg I think up to the 2007 models, while in the meantime other divisions are using 2007/2008 E300s as DTVs. 

I'm not saying Northampton shouldn't receive investment but when SNE as a serious money maker is using what it has, with low-capacity buses routinely getting used on busy services because the current fleet of Deckers is struggling i think they should get a bigger bite of the cherry they helped to grow

could use the 24 Gold-spec Scania N230UD/Alexander Dennis Enviro400 from 2015 displaced from Preston, although they wouldn't be a bad boost for the northeast either

(14 Nov 2022, 8:48 pm)Storx In fairness though your mixing DD and Singles up, there's no routes that realistically need an upgrade to Decker's in the North East regardless to what people say. Maybe we might see a single order soon which might push out some of the oldest buses in the network instead.

Depending how many decker's come up here most the 58 Plates could be gone from front line service.

Say something like

10x New Buses - 12
10x New Buses - 38
2x New Spares - 12, 38, 62, 63, 39, 40
12x 60 Plates - 1, Spare
E400 Hybrids - 18, 22, X63, Spares

It's easily doable and there's more than enough there - I believe those PVR's are right there abouts.

Mind it'll be interesting to see where the 19 Enviro 200's from Inverness end up as they'd make a good dent in removing the Enviro 200 MAN's especially considering there's some the same age as Hartlepool's (60 Plate) and the rest are the same age as Sunderland's / South Shields' give or take (63/64 Plate)

(14 Nov 2022, 9:32 pm)toward6931 i do think you could justify maybe say for example at slatyford upscaling 5 of the E200s for 300s, and maybe 4 of the 300s for 400s.

walkergate could do with 2 double decks back in return for the 60 plates at Stockton. the E services sound like they could benefit from a handful of 400s and at Stockton you could probably justify 5 double decks in the place of 5 of the singles

(14 Nov 2022, 10:08 pm)Storx Possibly could use some of the 58 plates maybe to do that which will go spare which will see some of the older Singles off, displacing stuff around you'd get a fair chunk of the worst out.

(12 Nov 2022, 4:36 pm)F114TML I was under the impression Newcastle are getting Stockton's MMCs for the CAZ, and Newcastle was sending their ALX300s to replace them.

(15 Nov 2022, 6:50 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF Is this move happening then?

(15 Nov 2022, 8:46 pm)Dyllan7817 I highly doubt it as newcastles getting new mmcs next year

(17 Nov 2022, 5:09 pm)Dans_bus_photos Looks like Sunderland are having a nightmare with their deckers now they've lost 3 of them to Shields- 2 school boards were operated by gas buses this morning due to 19114, 19440 and 19642 being VOR and then 19444 breaking down. According to bus times it appears 10643 is on loan to Sunderland operating the Sedgefield board this afternoon and to top it off it looks like 19383 has broken down at Team Valley with 19211 being sent to replace it.

(17 Nov 2022, 5:09 pm)Dans_bus_photos Looks like Sunderland are having a nightmare with their deckers now they've lost 3 of them to Shields- 2 school boards were operated by gas buses this morning due to 19114, 19440 and 19642 being VOR and then 19444 breaking down. According to bus times it appears 10643 is on loan to Sunderland operating the Sedgefield board this afternoon and to top it off it looks like 19383 has broken down at Team Valley with 19211 being sent to replace it.