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Fleet Changes - Dan - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 6:36 am)Keeiajs Seems the current ones on it, aren't that suited aswell. Some spend more time off the road than on.


Another ridiculous statement…


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RE: Fleet Changes - L469 YVK - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 5:25 am)Dan I was clear last time, it isn’t going to happen.

StreetDecks aren’t suited to a route like the X21, that has been proven. Pointless running the risk with newer StreetDecks where the exact same could happen again.


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So why was the initial plan (pre-covid) to actually operate the service using StreetDecks with a mix of old and new ones?

If they're supposedly unsuitable for the X21, then surely the same argument could apply for the X1 given the intensity of the operation (considering an E400MMC was initially trialled in Dec 2018 before WrightBus' issues and an eventual order was placed before they ended up at Consett).

Unless the B5TLs are off the road due to engineering & parts shortages?


RE: Fleet Changes - S813 FVK - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 7:57 am)L469 YVK So why was the initial plan (pre-covid) to actually operate the service using StreetDecks with a mix of old and new ones?

Because the fleet strategy was different back then?

The coaches probably wouldn't have migrated quite so soon, if at all, freeing the B5TLs had it not been for covid adjustments.

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RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 30 Sep 2021

Do 56 Vehicles have Plug Sockets?


RE: Fleet Changes - Train8261 - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 1:50 pm)Keeiajs Do 56 Vehicles have Plug Sockets?
I think so


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 30 Sep 2021

708 is now at Deptford on Staff Shuttle.


RE: Fleet Changes - L469 YVK - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 9:44 am)S813 FVK Because the fleet strategy was different back then?

The coaches probably wouldn't have migrated quite so soon, if at all, feeing the B5TLs had it not been for covid adjustments.

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But working the BSOG rate out (if still 14p per KM)

- 32km (20mi) = 4.48 * 36 (number of full WA trips in either direction) = £161.28 per day

- £161.28 * 5 (Mon-Fri) = £806.40

- £806.40 * 52 (give or take for BHols etc) = £41.9k

And that's the headline figure alone. Not forgetting Saturdays (full route) and also the Sunday trips (BA only)


Fleet Changes - Dan - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 4:06 pm)L469 YVK But working the BSOG rate out (if still 14p per KM)

- 32km (20mi) = 4.48 * 36 (number of full WA trips in either direction) = £161.28 per day

- £161.28 * 5 (Mon-Fri) = £806.40

- £806.40 * 52 (give or take for BHols etc) = £41.9k

And that's the headline figure alone. Not forgetting Saturdays (full route) and also the Sunday trips (BA only)


Who’s to say that the enhanced BSOG payments are here to stay?


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RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 30 Sep 2021

Anyone know when - 

Blue Livery is being applied (5)
berries Trim/USB
Blonde Livery (1)
Grahphite Livery (7)
Silver Livery (2), and what is after that.


RE: Fleet Changes - streetdeckfan - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 4:06 pm)L469 YVK But working the BSOG rate out (if still 14p per KM)

- 32km (20mi) = 4.48 * 36 (number of full WA trips in either direction) = £161.28 per day

- £161.28 * 5 (Mon-Fri) = £806.40

- £806.40 * 52 (give or take for BHols etc) = £41.9k

And that's the headline figure alone. Not forgetting Saturdays (full route) and also the Sunday trips (BA only)

The full X21 route is 32 miles not 32km


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 30 Sep 2021

Do you think we should be starting to see the introduction of USB-C's in the back of seats and no just USB-A, as they don't put plugs on buses anymore, and brand such as Apple are bringing in USB-C with samsung.


RE: Fleet Changes - streetdeckfan - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 7:14 pm)Keeiajs Do you think we should be starting to see the introduction of USB-C's in the back of seats and no just USB-A, as they don't put plugs on buses anymore, and brand such as Apple are bringing in USB-C with samsung.

I'm 50/50 on that.
I use the same charger for my laptop and phone, and my laptop charger is a USB-C to C cable, which means I need to carry around both my laptop charger and a spare USB-A to USB-C since the likelihood is that the 240v sockets that are available won't work and I'll have to make use of the USB in the seat backs.

But, I'm also mindful that most people probably still are using a USB-A cable, despite the fact that phones now ship with USB-C to C, or USB-C to Lightning cables simply because they're the cheaper option.
I know my official phone charger stays in the house and just carry around a disposable Poundland cable because I know I'm going to misplace it! And, judging by what I've seen on the bus, others are the same


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 30 Sep 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 8:24 pm)streetdeckfan I'm 50/50 on that.
I use the same charger for my laptop and phone, and my laptop charger is a USB-C to C cable, which means I need to carry around both my laptop charger and a spare USB-A to USB-C since the likelihood is that the 240v sockets that are available won't work and I'll have to make use of the USB in the seat backs.

But, I'm also mindful that most people probably still are using a USB-A cable, despite the fact that phones now ship with USB-C to C, or USB-C to Lightning cables simply because they're the cheaper option.
I know my official phone charger stays in the house and just carry around a disposable Poundland cable because I know I'm going to misplace it! And, judging by what I've seen on the bus, others are the same
I mean they could do 50/50, both have 1 USBC & 1 USBA.
Because honestly Its going to benefit GNE in the long run.


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 01 Oct 2021

Do the plug sockets on the 56 actually, work, tried it on 3 different 56 DD, and non worked.


RE: Fleet Changes - N1cholas - 01 Oct 2021

(01 Oct 2021, 3:45 pm)Keeiajs Do the plug sockets on the 56 actually, work, tried it on 3 different 56 DD, and non worked.
You might find one or two out of the whole allocation, maybe, just maybe one day they will get replaced, surely it doesent cost that much to change the faceplate of the power point with working sockets and usb's


RE: Fleet Changes - Keeiajs - 01 Oct 2021

(01 Oct 2021, 5:40 pm)N1cholas You might find one or two out of the whole allocation, maybe, just maybe one day they will get replaced, surely it doesent cost that much to change the faceplate of the power point with working sockets and usb's
I was on 6096-6098, today, non of them worked. They have just had a refurbishment and they didn't think about upgrading the chargers...when non including the USB work, which is a bit of joke. Tbf.

What is happening with 6043 it is yellow on BusTimes.


Fleet Changes - cbma06 - 01 Oct 2021

(01 Oct 2021, 5:55 pm)Keeiajs I was on 6096-6098, today, non of them worked. They have just had a refurbishment and they didn't think about upgrading the chargers...when non including the USB work, which is a bit of joke. Tbf.

What is happening with 6043 it is yellow on BusTimes.


On Facebook group pages by Jack Callaway:

Go North East 'Red Kite Ranger' Volvo B9TL Wright Gemini 2 6043/NK12 GCO arrived at Consett Depot this afternoon, ready for its next stage in life on the 47/47A. (1/10/21)

With a picture in its new livery at consett depot


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RE: Fleet Changes - mb134 - 01 Oct 2021

(30 Sep 2021, 8:58 pm)Keeiajs I mean they could do 50/50, both have 1 USBC & 1 USBA.
Because honestly Its going to benefit GNE in the long run.

Struggle to see how it's of any benefit at all to GNE. Ultimately most folk still have A-C cables rather than C-C, hell iPhone users don't even have USB C at all so arguably you'd be annoying more customers than you'd be pleasing.


RE: Fleet Changes - deanmachine - 01 Oct 2021

(01 Oct 2021, 6:16 pm)mb134 Struggle to see how it's of any benefit at all to GNE. Ultimately most folk still have A-C cables rather than C-C, hell iPhone users don't even have USB C at all so arguably you'd be annoying more customers than you'd be pleasing.

My 2 year old iPhone 11 came with a USB-C to lightning charger. Most Apple products use USB-C now, it's just the iPhones and the lesser iPads that don't use them.


RE: Fleet Changes - mb134 - 01 Oct 2021

(01 Oct 2021, 7:39 pm)deanmachine My 2 year old iPhone 11 came with a USB-C to lightning charger. Most Apple products use USB-C now, it's just the iPhones and the lesser iPads that don't use them.

Didn't realise they'd switched to USB-C to lightning. Bizarre that they still won't switch over the iPhones.