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RE: Fleet Changes - Malarkey - 05 May 2022
The following E400's are shown as withdrawn with Go-Ahead London.
E1 - SN06 BNA
E2 - SN06 BNB
E3 - SN06 BND
E4 - SN06 BNE
E5 - SN06 BNF
E6 - SN06 BNJ
E7 - SN06 BNK
E8 - SN06 BNL
E9 - SN06 BNO
E10 - SN06 BNU
E11 - SN06 BNV
E12 - SN06 BNX
E13 - SN06 BNY
E14 - SN06 BNZ
E15 - SN06 BOF
E16 - LX06 EZL
E17 - LX06 EZM
E18 - LX06 EZN
E19 - LX06 EZO
E20 - LX06 EZP
E21 - LX06 EZR
E22 - LX06 EZS
E23 - LX06 EZT
E24 - LX06 EYY
E25 - LX06 EYZ
E26 - LX06 EZA
E27 - LX06 EZB
E28 - LX06 EZC
E29 - LX06 EZD
E30 - LX06 EZE
E31 - LX06 EZF
E32 - LX06 EZG
E33 - LX06 EZH
E34 - LX06 ECT
E35 - LX06 ECV
E36 - LX06 FKL
E37 - LX06 FKM
E43 - LX56 ETJ
E54 - LX56 EUB
EnsignBus Sales are also selling a number of 09 Plate (Euro 6) E400 which were previously with Abellio London - https://www.ensignbus.com/2009-enviro-400-euro-6.html
RE: Fleet Changes - Unber43 - 05 May 2022
(05 May 2022, 7:42 pm)Malarkey If there is then surely these will be to replace the 15 remaining Scania Omnidekka's 3995/6126-29/6131-32/6134-35/6140-6148 which will need withdrawing ahead of the Emission Zone being introduced given the Omnidekka's are allocated between Riverside/Percy Main.Might be to also replace the 06 G1's.
I do wonder if the Ex-London B7TL Gemini's 6901-6919 will also be withdrawn, these are split between Riverside and Consett at the moment.
Tbh you could send some of the Euro 6's to Deptford as spares. But if GNE do get them I wonder if they'll re-do the interior.
When does the Low Emission zone come in?
RE: Fleet Changes - DRS37419 - 06 May 2022
(05 May 2022, 9:32 pm)Unber43 Might be to also replace the 06 G1's.With them being Ex London I believe they will already be E6. I'd assume the B7s going and them taking there place or spares at depots that run into Newcastle
Tbh you could send some of the Euro 6's to Deptford as spares. But if GNE do get them I wonder if they'll re-do the interior.
When does the Low Emission zone come in?
RE: Fleet Changes - ne14ne1 - 06 May 2022
Covid vaccination solo has finished its Covid duties:
https://twitter.com/newcastlegps/status/1522195449939214337?s=21&t=78s8YVSyATPCwRe0HT2gGQ
RE: Fleet Changes - wibblejunior - 06 May 2022
(05 May 2022, 8:02 pm)Malarkey The following E400's are shown as withdrawn with Go-Ahead London.In my opinion it seems highly unlikely it's any of these. Most of the SN06 batch still seem to be in use with GAL's commercial fleet. LX06 EYZ and EZA/B/C are with See London By Night. the rest of the LX06 batch is with Plymouth Citybus alongside LX56 EUB, but I have no idea where ETJ is.
E1 - SN06 BNA
E2 - SN06 BNB
E3 - SN06 BND
E4 - SN06 BNE
E5 - SN06 BNF
E6 - SN06 BNJ
E7 - SN06 BNK
E8 - SN06 BNL
E9 - SN06 BNO
E10 - SN06 BNU
E11 - SN06 BNV
E12 - SN06 BNX
E13 - SN06 BNY
E14 - SN06 BNZ
E15 - SN06 BOF
E16 - LX06 EZL
E17 - LX06 EZM
E18 - LX06 EZN
E19 - LX06 EZO
E20 - LX06 EZP
E21 - LX06 EZR
E22 - LX06 EZS
E23 - LX06 EZT
E24 - LX06 EYY
E25 - LX06 EYZ
E26 - LX06 EZA
E27 - LX06 EZB
E28 - LX06 EZC
E29 - LX06 EZD
E30 - LX06 EZE
E31 - LX06 EZF
E32 - LX06 EZG
E33 - LX06 EZH
E34 - LX06 ECT
E35 - LX06 ECV
E36 - LX06 FKL
E37 - LX06 FKM
E43 - LX56 ETJ
E54 - LX56 EUB
EnsignBus Sales are also selling a number of 09 Plate (Euro 6) E400 which were previously with Abellio London - https://www.ensignbus.com/2009-enviro-400-euro-6.html
As for the Abellio batch, I doubt it'd be any of these either, as most if not all of those have been sold already (19 of them are with The Green Bus of Birmingham)
RE: Fleet Changes - Rapidsnap - 10 May 2022
One time convertiable Scania N94UD / ELC Omnidekka 3996 which has previously being used as a Christmas Tree at Riverside has now departed, no doubt to the scrapyard.
RE: Fleet Changes - ian foster - 11 May 2022
(06 May 2022, 9:44 am)ne14ne1 Covid vaccination solo has finished its Covid duties:I wonder if it will return to it's previous duties
https://twitter.com/newcastlegps/status/1522195449939214337?s=21&t=78s8YVSyATPCwRe0HT2gGQ
RE: Fleet Changes - V514DFT - 11 May 2022
(11 May 2022, 9:01 am)ian foster I wonder if it will return to it's previous dutiesProbably not as the 41/41A uses streetlites now,not sure about the 19,but last i heard was that the little coasters are no more
RE: Fleet Changes - BusLoverMum - 12 May 2022
The last little coaster I saw was sitting in Peterlee bus station, at the weekend, on staff shuttles.
Fleet Changes - TEN 6083 - 10 Aug 2022
![[Image: 52265975477_bbef04bc61_z.jpg]](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52265975477_bbef04bc61_z.jpg)
Go North East 643 / NL63 XZP by kieron mathews, on Flickr![[Image: 52275416942_717974d762_z.jpg]](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52275416942_717974d762_z.jpg)
Go North East 645 / NL63 XZS by kieron mathews, on FlickrHave 643/645 transferred to Hexham permanently or are they on loan from Consett ?
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RE: Fleet Changes - streetdeckfan - 10 Aug 2022
So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.
RE: Fleet Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 10 Aug 2022
(10 Aug 2022, 11:29 pm)streetdeckfan So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.
Really? The 684 is usually quite empty, and doesn't spend long in Eldon Square. Just 1 bus per hour, mostly a Solo allocated, suggests the service isn't very popular. Any ideas where these passengers were going? Usually anyone getting on at Eldon Square is going to either Throckley or Hexham and usually nobody gets on after Eldon Square for quite some distance and likewise nobody alights. For the most part I only use the 684 between Eldon Square and Denton Burn, and I have seen people get on in Fenham before.
(10 Aug 2022, 10:51 pm)TEN 6083
Have 643/645 transferred to Hexham permanently or are they on loan from Consett ?
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645 has permanently transferred from Consett to Hexham. Not sure about 643.
RE: Fleet Changes - streetdeckfan - 10 Aug 2022
(10 Aug 2022, 11:37 pm)OrangeArrow49 Really? The 684 is usually quite empty, and doesn't spend long in Eldon Square. Just 1 bus per hour, mostly a Solo allocated, suggests the service isn't very popular. Any ideas where these passengers were going? Usually anyone getting on at Eldon Square is going to either Throckley or Hexham and usually nobody gets on after Eldon Square for quite some distance and likewise nobody alights. For the most part I only use the 684 between Eldon Square and Denton Burn, and I have seen people get on in Fenham before.
645 has permanently transferred from Consett to Hexham. Not sure about 643.
I only used it as far as the General Hospital as I was just dropping some stuff off for work, but judging by the conversations I was eavesdropping on, it's been getting quite busy recently. A few of the passengers were complaining about how busy it's been.
I wouldn't even say it's because of the school holidays as I think I was one of the youngest people on the bus!
RE: Fleet Changes - Storx - 11 Aug 2022
(10 Aug 2022, 11:29 pm)streetdeckfan So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.
Some of the Versa's at Hexham seem to be VOR. I'm assuming, if these are staying at Hexham, it will be to see off the last 2 61 plates which are hanging on when the rest of the batch including newer ones have been withdrawn rather than the Versa's.
RE: Fleet Changes - peter - 11 Aug 2022
(10 Aug 2022, 11:29 pm)streetdeckfan So is the 684 pretty much always allocated a Solo now?
I used it yesterday lunch time and both journeys it was a Solo, and it was packed.
I think there were only 3 seats free by the time we left Eldon Square.
Since the service changes the Hexham interworking pattern sees 3 Versa's allocated to the 680, 688 and even hour 684's from Hexham while 3 Solo's are allocated to the AD122, 687 and odd hour 684's from Hexham during the day. Peak times slightly more jumbled as the bus used on the 686 during the day comes into play (and operates the afternoon X85). Solo's are standalone now on the 74, 681, 686 and 689.
It seems one of those Versa boards has been allocated a Solo every day for the past week and a bit, presumably because 5377 and 78 are both off road.
RE: Fleet Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 11 Aug 2022
(10 Aug 2022, 11:52 pm)streetdeckfan I only used it as far as the General Hospital as I was just dropping some stuff off for work, but judging by the conversations I was eavesdropping on, it's been getting quite busy recently. A few of the passengers were complaining about how busy it's been.
I wouldn't even say it's because of the school holidays as I think I was one of the youngest people on the bus!
Ah, usually the 47 is the best service for the General Hospital. That or the X82.
I don't see why the 684 would be particularly busy, as it duplicates bus and train services and doesn't offer many connecting GNE services.
RE: Fleet Changes - streetdeckfan - 11 Aug 2022
(11 Aug 2022, 10:45 am)OrangeArrow49 Ah, usually the 47 is the best service for the General Hospital. That or the X82.
I don't see why the 684 would be particularly busy, as it duplicates bus and train services and doesn't offer many connecting GNE services.
I had a GNE ticket so would have used it regardless. But, having said that, it genuinely was the fastest connection from the X21 as I think I only had a 3 minute wait.
You say it doesn't offer many connecting GNE services, but that's assuming the people are travelling towards Hexham as their initial journey.
If they're on their return journey, then they have had connecting GNE services to just about anywhere they could want from Eldon Square.
RE: Fleet Changes - OrangeArrow49 - 11 Aug 2022
(11 Aug 2022, 11:08 am)streetdeckfan I had a GNE ticket so would have used it regardless. But, having said that, it genuinely was the fastest connection from the X21 as I think I only had a 3 minute wait.
You say it doesn't offer many connecting GNE services, but that's assuming the people are travelling towards Hexham as their initial journey.
If they're on their return journey, then they have had connecting GNE services to just about anywhere they could want from Eldon Square.
Of course you would have a GNE ticket as the X21 is your local service. A 3 minute wait is amazing.
Northumberland County Council could connect the 684/74 as they fund both services and they run either side of Fenham, Hexham and I'm sure other places along the route.
The more connections the better. Although there are too many Stagecoach routes in Fenham/Denton Burn/West Denton. Hopefully the 684 will continue to exist in the long term, but I doubt it will.
RE: Fleet Changes - xpm - 11 Aug 2022
For the most part - even pre-COVID most X84/684 journeys could comfortably be allocated a solo without any issues - sure, sometimes they would have been fuller - but is that a bad thing?
Pre-COVID you had 3 what I would call TWIRLY expresses - the 9.40 & 10.40 from Hexham, X85 and the 2-ish X84/X85 from Newcastle (TWIRLYs wanting to get home before the schools kicked out). Patronage disappeared at these times and never really came back after this. There was a bit of a return, and some sort of loyalty when the deckers were on, but nowhere near the numbers they used to get. Could sometimes leave Hexham and be full and standing by Corbridge - especially if the 685 was missing.
Passengers from Newcastle varied - moreso when an X82 was missing - and too be honest a fair few got the X84 as it was cheaper to Throckley than both the X82 or the 685.
Again the school time x84s had more of a load, but this again varied year on year and as term goes on the numbers get less. 684 still connected Ovington/Ovingham/Wylam both ways, but the more senior passengers just don't travel the same way they did pre-COVID. Peak afternoon X85s used to be busy, but again post covid - people worked from home and never returned in the same numbers.
This time of year there's usually more teenagers travelling down to wylam/Ovingham to go down the river for the day from NCL way - they can often travel in groups of a dozen or more, but asides that there's little difference otherwise.
RE: Fleet Changes - ne14ne1 - 12 Aug 2022
Citaro 5281 collected from Saltmeadows:
https://flic.kr/p/2nDPR8h