(16 Jun 2022, 8:37 am)busmanT The Go North East 25 is a bit thin on the ground today, three consecutive departures from Newcastle cancelled this afternoon 1525, 1605, 1635:

From Newcastle: 07:15, 08:55, 16:05, 17:35, 20:25. The 09:18 journey will start from Chester-le-Street at 10:16, the 15:25 journey will start from Chester-le-Street at 16:17, the 16:35 journey will start from Chester-le-Street at 17:27.
From Langley Park: 06:27, 07:13, 10:21, 17:29, 19:04. The 13:51 journey will only run as far as Chester-le-Street (arriving at 14:20), the 14:21 journey will only run as far as Chester-le-Street (arriving at 14:50), the 14:54 journey will only run as far as Chester-le-Street (arriving at 15:23), the 15:54 journey will only run as far as Chester-le-Street (arriving at 16:23).
From Chester-le-Street to Newcastle: 06:17

(16 Jun 2022, 9:22 am)Adrian Two of the commuter runs into Newcastle cancelled too. Maybe services like the 25 are an easy target not to cover now, as they're not seen as doing 'well' financially, but will they be going forward? 

I suppose the downside of contracting/providing secured services, is that the local authority will normally want some form of financial compensation or service credits where the service isn't ran. There's no where near that level of scrutiny on commercial services, as passengers are very much without a collective voice.

Also for the third day in a row, the 17.39 #50 from Durham has been cancelled, which is really poor. I normally use that or the one an hour earlier, and it's generally the same people on board each day, so it just goes to show that in doing so they're impacting the same users over and over.

(16 Jun 2022, 9:22 am)Adrian Two of the commuter runs into Newcastle cancelled too. Maybe services like the 25 are an easy target not to cover now, as they're not seen as doing 'well' financially, but will they be going forward? 

I suppose the downside of contracting/providing secured services, is that the local authority will normally want some form of financial compensation or service credits where the service isn't ran. There's no where near that level of scrutiny on commercial services, as passengers are very much without a collective voice.

Also for the third day in a row, the 17.39 #50 from Durham has been cancelled, which is really poor. I normally use that or the one an hour earlier, and it's generally the same people on board each day, so it just goes to show that in doing so they're impacting the same users over and over.

(16 Jun 2022, 12:48 pm)Ambassador CLS is horrific yet again, there’s a 35 minute gap at Gateshead and it was just as bad this morning,

There’s two angels parked up at Gateshead but nothing on the cancellations. They’re just outright lying now

(16 Jun 2022, 9:22 am)Adrian Two of the commuter runs into Newcastle cancelled too. Maybe services like the 25 are an easy target not to cover now, as they're not seen as doing 'well' financially, but will they be going forward? 

I suppose the downside of contracting/providing secured services, is that the local authority will normally want some form of financial compensation or service credits where the service isn't ran. There's no where near that level of scrutiny on commercial services, as passengers are very much without a collective voice.

Also for the third day in a row, the 17.39 #50 from Durham has been cancelled, which is really poor. I normally use that or the one an hour earlier, and it's generally the same people on board each day, so it just goes to show that in doing so they're impacting the same users over and over.

(16 Jun 2022, 2:28 pm)Drifter60 Was just thinking the same. If GNE do get contracts for the 25,28 and others they’d surely have to put more emphasis on making sure they run. Which I’m not sure how they’ll manage it, without another service like the 21s for instance taking even more of a hit instead. I wonder if GNE don’t get these contracts, it’s because they don’t want them - without the extra secured work they’ll be in a better position to withdraw older vehicles, close CLS depot and reduce short notice cancellations elsewhere. 

It’s been mentioned about the 8 being cancelled in the evening? Happy to stand corrected, it’s a recent development the 8 running late into the evening? And I’m guessing it’ll be one of a few evening services running without subsidy. Even services like the 60 have secured parts. I believe, DCC still pays for the later evening Parkside to Seaham runs. So I’m guessing it’s just complete coincidence that the 8 is taking a hit.

(16 Jun 2022, 3:01 pm)Unber43 I don't think the 61/60 are covered by DCC. 

I can't imagine many others aren't subsided on a night.

(16 Jun 2022, 4:08 pm)Jimmi From the list I've seen, the 60 is still supported between Parkside and Seaham on Monday to Saturday evenings and the 61 has a some trips on Saturday mornings that are DCC supported.

Quite a lot of the evening services in County Durham are supported at both GNE & ANE, some of GNE's actually been Monday to Thursday whilst running commercially on Friday & Saturday nights.

(18 Jun 2022, 2:13 pm)Jack Gill The 21 doesn't seem to be doing great at all at the moment...

(18 Jun 2022, 2:31 pm)Unber43 Wow there is only 6 on, isn't the PVR like 14.

(18 Jun 2022, 3:01 pm)Jack Gill I wonder what's happening to cause such major problems for the 21 today

(18 Jun 2022, 3:01 pm)Jack Gill I wonder what's happening to cause such major problems for the 21 today

(18 Jun 2022, 3:00 pm)wibblejunior I've been waiting for the X21 at Eldon Square for about half an hour and not a single Angel has turned up in that time. At this rate the X12 may as well go back to being half-hourly between Durham and Newcastle.

(18 Jun 2022, 3:26 pm)Adrian And yet not a single 21 listed on the short notice cancellations page.