(19 Jun 2022, 10:31 am)Adrian BSOG is calculated per km operated I believe, unless that has changed?

Interestingly though, the Bus Recovery Grant (BRG), which is due to end in October, has an eligibility requirement of running 90% or more of your mileage compared to pre-COVID levels. Taking into account September 2021's 'Getting buses fit for the future' programme, and then the upcoming axe-wielding in July, I wonder if GNE will still be eligible for the remaining 3 months of that?

(fixed your link btw!)

(18 Jun 2022, 11:26 pm)Unber43 Well, look at Arriva, Stagecoach and GCT (granted they've been quite okay recently) however they don't publish these lists meaning we don't know how many services are cancelled but for both it is probably  similar to GNE, so why should GNE be penalised for telling the public which services are cancelled when other companies are informing people 1 hour to no advanced notice.

(19 Jun 2022, 6:40 pm)Storx The Arriva and Stagecoach cancellations are nowhere near as bad as GNE. This isn't just to do with 'lists'.

At no point have either of those cancelled 4 buses in a row on a 30 minute bus service like the 25 tomorrow which they expect tax payers to fund.

Either way makes no difference. It doesn't make something better because someone else is the same. It seems to be the new tactic lately, deflection, to make out GNE aren't half as bad as they really are the past few months, for pretty much everything.

(19 Jun 2022, 6:44 pm)Unber43 Look at the 8 today from Sunderland, the 10:11 didn't run, 11:11 did, then there wasn't one till 14:11. They're every hour, no hourly service should be cancelled.

Im not saying GNE have the least cancellations, while there may be 4 in a row canceled which is bad, the way they go around it is good and how do you know they're not as bad? SC & arriva don't supply a list.

(19 Jun 2022, 7:08 pm)Adrian Why does it always have to be comparative to not being as bad (or worse) than X? For a Sunday service, the provision on some routes today has been nothing short of a shambles. 

Like I wrote yesterday, this has been going on now for 8+ months and it's continuing to cause the public a massive inconvenience. Whilst I think at the start, there'll have been a degree of sympathy for COVID related absence, the situation has gone on that long that sympathy has turned into frustration, with seemingly no end in sight.

We know that other bus operators, railways and airlines are impacted, but what are they doing about it? What are they doing to not only attract people to come and work for them, but the retain the staff that they're recruiting? 

We can talk about lists vs no lists, but the reality is the same and the customers still suffer. The bigger worry now is that this is very much in danger of becoming the norm, and that doesn't stand in good steed for the future of public transport.

(19 Jun 2022, 6:44 pm)Unber43 Look at the 8 today from Sunderland, the 10:11 didn't run, 11:11 did, then there wasn't one till 14:11. They're every hour, no hourly service should be cancelled.

Im not saying GNE have the least cancellations, while there may be 4 in a row canceled which is bad, the way they go around it is good and how do you know they're not as bad? SC & arriva don't supply a list.

• From Waldridge Park: 09:53, 10:53, 11:53, 12:53, 13:53, 14:53, 15:35, 16:42, 18:03, 18:57, 19:57. 
  
• From Urpeth Grange: 09:27, 10:27 11:27, 12:27, 13:27, 14:27, 15:07, 15:27, 16:12, 17:37, 18:35, 19:28, 20:28. 
  
• From Chester-le-Street: 09:10, 10:48, 11:45, 14:53, 17:23. 
  

(24 Jun 2022, 9:50 am)idiot Park Lane has quite a few buses parked up. Including 2 drifters when a solo has recently left on the 60... Great planning!

(24 Jun 2022, 10:29 am)Unber43 Speaking of Drifters, why with 1 spare bus, there is always atleast one solo on the drifters, not to mention it does the afternoon Seaham High School, school run. 

There is TWO solo's on today, there are two drifters together one running 12 mins late, there was 3 replacement buses on the other day, 5373 has been having issues since the crash, it broke down yesterday aswell. There was one on the 877, so that is 7/7 which are running. 1 broke down, thats the PVR.

Why can't they get it right it has been an issue since September, I was on the 5 yesterday between Boldon and Jarrow to connect with the 27 and that was a Drifter, it had 4 people on, compared to the Solo which was on the 60 at the time which had 8 seats left.

(25 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm)Adrian When I've been out and about today (and to be honest, the whole of this week), its more noticeable than ever just how sick of these disruptions the public are getting.

I've seen multiple instances of drivers getting it in the neck from irate customers, both on the bus and whilst they're waiting to take a bus on (e.g. at Chester front street). Whilst I think its bang out of order the way some customers talk to drivers, I think its sadly becoming inevitable due to the amount of disruption.

There's also more and more people complaining about it in conversation, e.g. when I'm on board or waiting for a bus. A 56 I used earlier, apparently the one prior didnt turn up, the one after was cancelled, and the one we boarded was being cut short at Gateshead. Is this the active regulation that Martijn Gilbert referenced on twitter?

I wonder just how much these operators, and I know its not just GNE, are shooting themselves in the foot right now. As I've said before, why would anyone switch to bus, unless you like ending up pissed off?

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(25 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm)Adrian When I've been out and about today (and to be honest, the whole of this week), its more noticeable than ever just how sick of these disruptions the public are getting.

I've seen multiple instances of drivers getting it in the neck from irate customers, both on the bus and whilst they're waiting to take a bus on (e.g. at Chester front street). Whilst I think its bang out of order the way some customers talk to drivers, I think its sadly becoming inevitable due to the amount of disruption.

There's also more and more people complaining about it in conversation, e.g. when I'm on board or waiting for a bus. A 56 I used earlier, apparently the one prior didnt turn up, the one after was cancelled, and the one we boarded was being cut short at Gateshead. Is this the active regulation that Martijn Gilbert referenced on twitter?

I wonder just how much these operators, and I know its not just GNE, are shooting themselves in the foot right now. As I've said before, why would anyone switch to bus, unless you like ending up pissed off?

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(25 Jun 2022, 4:03 pm)Adrian When I've been out and about today (and to be honest, the whole of this week), its more noticeable than ever just how sick of these disruptions the public are getting.

I've seen multiple instances of drivers getting it in the neck from irate customers, both on the bus and whilst they're waiting to take a bus on (e.g. at Chester front street). Whilst I think its bang out of order the way some customers talk to drivers, I think its sadly becoming inevitable due to the amount of disruption.

There's also more and more people complaining about it in conversation, e.g. when I'm on board or waiting for a bus. A 56 I used earlier, apparently the one prior didnt turn up, the one after was cancelled, and the one we boarded was being cut short at Gateshead. Is this the active regulation that Martijn Gilbert referenced on twitter?

I wonder just how much these operators, and I know its not just GNE, are shooting themselves in the foot right now. As I've said before, why would anyone switch to bus, unless you like ending up pissed off?

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(25 Jun 2022, 4:48 pm)busmanT There seems to have been at least 5 or 6 buses parked at Chester-Le-Street almost all day today (different buses as time has gone by, South Burns or down the side of GW Horners) with large gaps appearing in the 21 (not helped by missing X21s, where the last 4 departures from Newcastle are cancelled). 
I Didn’t see much “active regulation” taking place, and no “short notice” cancellations list for the 21, although Twitter followers were told at 1146 that  “Due to operational issues you wait longer than usual for your vehicle heading into Newcastle on service 21, we apologise for any inconvenience”.

It’s unfortunate that GNE continues to compete with Arriva between Durham and Brandon & Bishop and West Auckland whilst the service where passengers don’t have a choice is so poor.