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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Jimmi - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 1:22 pm)Andreos1 Will it ever end? Don't forget the outbreaks of football fever RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 1:45 pm)Jimmi Don't forget the outbreaks of football feverNow come on, be fair. It was a shortage of passengers, not drivers for that one RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 1:22 pm)Andreos1 Will it ever end? I mean with July 24th around the corner, there's ultimately going to be a need for less drivers to cover the daily PVR, but you wonder whether they'll still be in a position of not being able to fulfil the timetable. There's also the question around whether a greater spare % in driving resource is going to be required, if GNE end up taking on a proportion of this commercial work that they've chucked towards the local authorities? There's an actual cost to the business for not running secured work, whereas in the absence of a 'delay repay' type model, they can get away with a meaningless apology at most for their commercial stuff. (27 Jun 2022, 1:45 pm)Jimmi Don't forget the outbreaks of football fever November/December will be a nightmare with all the England matches in the World Cup! RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 2:18 pm)Adrian I mean with July 24th around the corner, there's ultimately going to be a need for less drivers to cover the daily PVR, but you wonder whether they'll still be in a position of not being able to fulfil the timetable.Dunno about you, but I can't see it myself. To counter existing natural turnover and shortfall, the numbers being processed through the driving school needs to be huge. Then take in to account any additional turnover as a result of the Chester closure and they're on an even stickier wicket! It will be interesting to see how they manage the staff resource given the greater reliance on the those routes you mention and penalties that should be in place. RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - busmanT - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 2:18 pm)Adrian I mean with July 24th around the corner, there's ultimately going to be a need for less drivers to cover the daily PVR, but you wonder whether they'll still be in a position of not being able to fulfil the timetable.The 24th July changes will still save quite a few PVR (20 odd?), and lots of reductions to evening and Sunday services will save drivers. The big question is how will they cope with all the extra scholars from September and the Metro flow blockade. RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 5:05 pm)busmanT The 24th July changes will still save quite a few PVR (20 odd?), and lots of reductions to evening and Sunday services will save drivers.5/6th Sept will be very interesting for sure RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Dan - 27 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 5:05 pm)busmanT The 24th July changes will still save quite a few PVR (20 odd?), and lots of reductions to evening and Sunday services will save drivers. Plus paired with a reduction in establishment due to the school holidays, I wouldn't expect there to be any short-notice cancellations over this period. All the evening/Sunday services (a lot of which were recently introduced during the pandemic) would save quite a substantial amount of drivers, I'd imagine. More than what you'd first think. RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Rob44 - 27 Jun 2022 i see the first 28a of the day tomorrow is canceled..... so much for my lye in.... will have to take fun police to work then come back and hang about till 11 when i start RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - busmanT - 28 Jun 2022 (27 Jun 2022, 6:29 pm)Dan Plus paired with a reduction in establishment due to the school holidays, I wouldn't expect there to be any short-notice cancellations over this period.Hopefully these reductions won't lose too many passengers (if you can't get home on the bus, you won't use it to go out and vice-versa). Whilst many of the early morning journeys were only introduced during the pandemic, the evening and Sunday reductions seem to be affecting long standing frequencies. With the reduced frequencies I hope that the drivers are given more running time as each remaining bus will be busier - the 21 on a Sunday for example, where the frequency drops from every 10 minutes to every 15 minutes. RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 28 Jun 2022 (28 Jun 2022, 1:36 pm)busmanT Hopefully these reductions won't lose too many passengers (if you can't get home on the bus, you won't use it to go out and vice-versa).I'm sitting here waiting for the inevitable when Newcastle have a home match on a Sunday and the 1bp2h X10 can't cope! Going to be fun and games with that one at times! RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - F114TML - 30 Jun 2022 All the parking bays at Park Lane were taken when I arrived, 2 solos (one on the 60 and one on the X6) were abandoned in the stand. People wanting the 61 had been waiting for an hour with cheers when a driver turned up with one passenger commenting she was fed up and would've just gone home if one didn't turn up. Fun! RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Aaron21 - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 9:59 am)F114TML All the parking bays at Park Lane were taken when I arrived, 2 solos (one on the 60 and one on the X6) were abandoned in the stand. People wanting the 61 had been waiting for an hour with cheers when a driver turned up with one passenger commenting she was fed up and would've just gone home if one didn't turn up.#betterthanever RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - BusLoverMum - 30 Jun 2022 #betterthannever RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 9:59 am)F114TML All the parking bays at Park Lane were taken when I arrived, 2 solos (one on the 60 and one on the X6) were abandoned in the stand. People wanting the 61 had been waiting for an hour with cheers when a driver turned up with one passenger commenting she was fed up and would've just gone home if one didn't turn up.There has been two solo's on the 61 & 60 today. I can imagine Park Lane being just an absolute nightmare. but you know #betterthanever RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - wibblejunior - 30 Jun 2022 Most of the 61's route is also covered by the 22 and 23, but that doesn't really help people who live in Murton, want to go into Sunderland, and don't want to walk all the way over to Dalton Park just because there's an extra 4 buses an hour into Sunderland from there. Disruptions and driver shortages - cbma06 - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 1:56 pm)wibblejunior Most of the 61's route is also covered by the 22 and 23, but that doesn't really help people who live in Murton, want to go into Sunderland, and don't want to walk all the way over to Dalton Park just because there's an extra 4 buses an hour into Sunderland from there. Since the 65 connects murton/Dalton park and Seaham for passengers between the 2 areas, service 61 should be non stop on a19 between leaving ryhope and arriving at Dalton park, faster journey times for passengers from Murton to Sunderland, top end of Seaham is well served by service 60 and 22/23. #bring back the X53 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 4:12 pm)cbma06 Since the 65 connects murton/Dalton park and Seaham for passengers between the 2 areas, service 61 should be non stop on a19 between leaving ryhope and arriving at Dalton park, faster journey times for passengers from Murton to Sunderland, top end of Seaham is well served by service 60 and 22/23.Tbh the 65 might be worth extending to Sunderland (for changeovers), atleast once per hour. To make it every 30 mins with the X6. Disruptions and driver shortages - cbma06 - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 4:28 pm)Unber43 Tbh the 65 might be worth extending to Sunderland (for changeovers), atleast once per hour. To make it every 30 mins with the X6. If service 20 is every 15 minutes, can’t half the 20’s every hour change to service 65, and the other half change into doing the 204/204a, so service 20/65/204/204a be under the prince bishop brand since there all go into Durham Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - F114TML - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 4:33 pm)cbma06 If service 20 is every 15 minutes, can’t half the 20’s every hour change to service 65, and the other half change into doing the 204/204a, so service 20/65/204/204a be under the prince bishop brand since there all go into DurhamYou'd have to double the frequency of the 204/204A, as they run 2-hourly each, combining to an hourly service. RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022 (30 Jun 2022, 4:33 pm)cbma06 If service 20 is every 15 minutes, can’t half the 20’s every hour change to service 65, and the other half change into doing the 204/204a, so service 20/65/204/204a be under the prince bishop brand since there all go into DurhamI think the 65 extending to Sunderland demand is there especially from Hetton etc cos the 35 does take ages. You could extend the 65 upto Easington Lane tbh or even as far as South Hetton hourly |