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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 24 Jul 2022
Monday 25th July
X1 - From Newcastle 16:56, 17:08, 17:20,
50 - 17:05, 17:35, 18:05 2 hour wait
56 - From Newcastle 14:42, 14:57 (45 Min Wait)
60 - From Parkside 07:20, 07:33, 08:55, 09:08, (2x 36 min waits)
Overall, not really bad, there is still a fair few cancellations from Washington several in a row and some from other depots, nothing really major coming from anywhere except Washington and Deptford with a few services cancelled in a row.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Michael - 24 Jul 2022
Welcome to the BBC's new TV show.... Cancelwatch.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 24 Jul 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 4:06 pm)Michael Welcome to the BBC's new TV show.... Cancelwatch.You can joke all you like till you have a 2 hour wait for a 50, or a 45 minute wait at market street when its raining.
Or the Queue for the X1 leaves eldon square
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Ambassador - 24 Jul 2022
At least Nexus and DCC will get a few quid back from the 25 and 28 cancellations.
To their credit they’ve managed to cancel a 28 that doesn’t actually exist (assume they meant 28B at 19.35)
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 24 Jul 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 4:54 pm)Ambassador At least Nexus and DCC will get a few quid back from the 25 and 28 cancellations.
To their credit they’ve managed to cancel a 28 that doesn’t actually exist (assume they meant 28B at 19.35)
Hopefully people using those services will make enough noise to the local authority that is contracting them out.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - stagecoachbusdepot - 24 Jul 2022
Cancellations list looks a bit confusing with two sets of cancellations listed for tomorrow for some services e.g.
Monday 25th July
X-lines X1 | X1A:
From Newcastle: 08:00, 08:30,12:53,14:53,16:33,17:53, 10:13 Commences Washington Galleries 10:45,10:53 Commences Washington Galleries 11:25, 13:53 Commences Washington Galleries 14:25, 14:13 Terminates Washington Galleries 14:45, 20:00 Washington Galleries 20:28, 21:00 Commences Service Washington Galleries 21:28.
From Washington Galleries: 07:29, 09:33.
From Peterlee: 09:24,13:24,11:24 Terminates Washington Galleries 12:10, 12:24 Terminates
Washington Galleries 13:10, 16:28 Terminates Washington Galleries 17:13.
From Easington Lane: 07:30. 15:21, 19:00
and, further down the page
Monday 25th July
X-lines X1 | X1A:
From Newcastle: 07:35 11:35,15:37,16:19, 16:56, 17:08, 17:44, 19:25, 19:55, 22:00,, 12:11 Terminates at Washington Galleries 12:45, 12:59 Terminates at Washington Galleries 13:33, 13:11 Terminates at Washington Galleries 13:45, 14:23 Terminates at Washington Galleries 14:57, 14:47 Commences Service at Washington Galleries 15:22, 15:11 Commences Service at Washington Galleries 15:46, 15:23 Commences Service at Washington Galleries 15:58, 16:07 Commences Service at Washington Galleries 16:42,
From Peterlee: 13:38, 14:38, 18:00, 18:30, 13:14 Terminates at Washington Galleries 14:03, 15:20 Terminates at Washington Galleries 16:09,
From Dalton Park: 12:56 Commences Service at Washington Galleries 13:39, 13:56 Terminates at Washington Galleries 14:39, 17:19 Commences Washington Galleries 18:01,
From Easington Lane: 14:19,15:49, 20:59, 22:59, 10:19 Terminates at Washington Galleries 10:51, 14:43 Terminates at Washington Galleries 15:15, 20:29 Commences Service at Washington Galleries 20:56,
Presumably only one lot are the correct cancellations, but who knows which.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - omnicity4659 - 24 Jul 2022
(21 Jul 2022, 7:29 pm)Dan Why would they? Go North East will be over-staffed from 24 July.
The only site that won't be is Washington, and drivers from other depots will be loaned to assist to minimise lost mileage here.
There's still over 100 pre-planned cancellations from depots other than Washington.
Does Go North East consider not having enough drivers to cover 100 journeys as "over-staffing", or is this more twaddle from the spin machine?
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - missedbus - 24 Jul 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 6:55 pm)omnicity4659 There's still over 100 pre-planned cancellations from depots other than Washington.How many staff does that 100 journeys equate to? How many spare drivers are carried to allow for sickness? What percentage sickness is budgeted for compared to the sickness rate now?
Does Go North East consider not having enough drivers to cover 100 journeys as "over-staffing", or is this more twaddle from the spin machine?
You can be overstaffed on paper, but if your sickness rate is high, that's going to lead to missing journeys. You don't notice if a supermarket is missing some staff; you might have to queue longer at the till, but that's all. If someone doesn't turn up to drive a bus, it doesn't go out, and you notice that straight away.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 24 Jul 2022
The cancellations since the changes haven't really been that bad, other than a few services cancelled after each other, but what about the 60 odd contracts GNE have won?
I think it might have been 61 either school contracts or all contracts together, they will need roughly about 80 drivers for all these, services are still being cancelled from all depots if not most. Where are they going to find the drivers are they going to be able to get 80 drivers, although I'd imagine services like the 83A & 92 will be operated by a bus before it goes into the actual daily services.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Ambassador - 24 Jul 2022
(24 Jul 2022, 9:45 pm)Unber43 The cancellations since the changes haven't really been that bad, other than a few services cancelled after each other, but what about the 60 odd contracts GNE have won?It’s literally been a day and we all know the publicised changes vs the actual changes are a whole other thing…
I think it might have been 61 either school contracts or all contracts together, they will need roughly about 80 drivers for all these, services are still being cancelled from all depots if not most. Where are they going to find the drivers are they going to be able to get 80 drivers, although I'd imagine services like the 83A & 92 will be operated by a bus before it goes into the actual daily services.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 25 Jul 2022
What's going on in Washington today?
So many delays to the 84. Traffic jams? Roadworks?
It just seems to be the 84 that is affected by delays though. Nothing else in Washington is affected.
According to their twitter feed anyway.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 25 Jul 2022
Deptford have been hit worse tomorrow
The 20 is basically every 30 mins between 12 - 2
56 - 12:12, 12:42, 12:57 |15:27, 15:47 | 16:20, 16:38
60 - 3 in a row at Peak Times - 07:20, 07:33, 07:46 then 09:08, 09:20,
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - 54APhotography - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 5:08 pm)Unber43 Deptford have been hit worse tomorrowSo much for being over staffed from the 24th.
The 20 is basically every 30 mins between 12 - 2
56 - 12:12, 12:42, 12:57 |15:27, 15:47 | 16:20, 16:38
60 - 3 in a row at Peak Times - 07:20, 07:33, 07:46 then 09:08, 09:20,
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 25 Jul 2022
There is washington cancellation but I dont think there is anything like Deptford, Aline should be brought in again. I don't know why they stopped
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - nova347 - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 5:14 pm)54APhotography So much for being over staffed from the 24th.I expected that if any Depot got hit with cancellations it would be Washington and Depford with all the new routes/changes to the depots I expect them to have cancellations. One of the old Satwell Parks drove passed while doing Route Learning at Ryhope and although it was just a quick look a lot of the seats were filled with drivers learning the route.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - MurdnunoC - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 6:17 pm)nova347 I expected that if any Depot got hit with cancellations it would be Washington and Depford with all the new routes/changes to the depots I expect them to have cancellations. One of the old Satwell Parks drove passed while doing Route Learning at Ryhope and although it was just a quick look a lot of the seats were filled with drivers learning the route.
Wow! A bus for route learning with drivers learning the route? Who'da thunk it? You learn something new everyday!
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - citaro5284 - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 5:22 pm)Unber43 There is washington cancellation but I dont think there is anything like Deptford, Aline should be brought in again. I don't know why they stopped
There is a picture of 5285 on facebook on loan to Aline this evening operating a Service 4
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - nova347 - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 6:27 pm)MurdnunoC Wow! A bus for route learning with drivers learning the route? Who'da thunk it? You learn something new everyday!What I meant was those drivers learning routes instead of driving services, so if a lot of drivers are busy learning routes then they won't be able to cover cancelled routes.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Jimmi - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 6:34 pm)citaro5284 There is a picture of 5285 on facebook on loan to Aline this evening operating a Service 4Said bus and driver also covered a 50 this afternoon.
RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 25 Jul 2022
(25 Jul 2022, 6:47 pm)nova347 What I meant was those drivers learning routes instead of driving services, so if a lot of drivers are busy learning routes then they won't be able to cover cancelled routes.
How would you expect them to drive the route, if they don't learn it first...?