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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 9:32 pm)Ambassador It’s probably a good job MG is leaving but I imagine he’s not the root cause, as much as a poor a job he’s done, the same old team are behind him.

Clear the decks and get new blood in.
i feel like MG has the right idea, branded buses, fares etc however GNE failure to change there route map especially in Washington & North Tyneside aswell as the massive investment into Consett, was just the same old routes with zero changes. 

Its like what people have been suggesting for months.

Split the 2/2A up, bring in 2/2a/3/3a etc, bringing into the little pinks network. Same with the 56. 

56, X56, 56A etc, Main Route with variations around washington/concord

X1, X2, X3, X4, X5 (every 60 mins each) 

X1 - Easington lane - Newcastle 
X2 - Peterlee - Newcastle 
X3 - Dalton Park/Seaham - Newcastle (every 20 mins). 

X4-X5 doing various variations of that route through Washington, taking into different areas. 

Maybe the 55 would have been successful if there was the 55A, which took 209/210 route into account.

But also maybe a slower express, the X8, Starts in Billingham, Peterlee (going through Hordon Bracket Hill etc), Seaham, Sunderland, Newcastle. 

Consett - tbf I don't have any idea what to do with Consett, GNE gave its best shot, and just nothing happened, there has just been cuts

People don't want Hour waits in washington/consett/peterlee.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - wibblejunior - 28 Jul 2022

I'll have to admit that we're lucky that GNE actually lists at least some of the journeys that won't be running. If this was Arriva, you'd have to rely solely on guesswork regarding which journeys will be running and which ones won't.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - BusLoverMum - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 5:26 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Vastly improved format on the short notice cancellations for tomorrow (for the likes of X1 making it easier to see at a glance whether it's full journey cancelled or early curtailed)
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/short-notice-cancellations

Still an alarming amount of cancellations however, across various depots, for a company that is apparently over-staffed and without the pressures of scholars.  Let's hope the over-staffing increases somewhat come Sept.
Well, if Adrian is working in Durham, tomorrow, he wo t be getting the 50 home, since there's none after 2:40, it seems. (no idea what setting made that so small) 

The following full journeys on the 50 will not operate:
  • From Durham: 11:36, 15:10, 15:40, 16:10, 16:45, 17:15, 17:50, 18:25 
  • From South Shields: 9:50, 15:23, 16:30, 17:05, 18:05, 19:38



RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - omnicity4659 - 28 Jul 2022

Around 340 cancellations at depots other than Washington, a further ~120 out of Washington. Staffing situation remains dire in many roles other than driving which is also causing serious issues.

Shout out to the guys and girls who have had to cover multiple roles and shifts to prevent a total collapse of parts of Go North East, often being the only ones running the show behind the scenes. I hope they take no notice of the absolute bollocks that those in management are posting on here and elsewhere claiming that the company is "over-staffed".


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Aaron21 - 28 Jul 2022

The fact people are saying gne are doing better than others company is really annoying. At least they don't have others company's covering there routes. A Line, L&G (driver's only), JH, Henry Cooper & Stanley Travel. Just to name the company that have had to cover for gne


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 28 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 10:55 pm)omnicity4659 Around 340 cancellations at depots other than Washington, a further ~120 out of Washington. Staffing situation remains dire in many roles other than driving which is also causing serious issues.

Shout out to the guys and girls who have had to cover multiple roles and shifts to prevent a total collapse of parts of Go North East, often being the only ones running the show behind the scenes. I hope they take no notice of the absolute bollocks that those in management are posting on here and elsewhere claiming that the company is "over-staffed".
Holidays and wing mirrors isnt it? Sure that's what's causing all these issues.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - BusLoverMum - 28 Jul 2022

JH did cover the 64s for Arriva for a while but that was last year when everyone was feeling the pinch.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Aaron21 - 28 Jul 2022

Daft idea. But is it even drive sickness or drivers leaving


Disruptions and driver shortages - Dan - 29 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 10:55 pm)omnicity4659 Around 340 cancellations at depots other than Washington, a further ~120 out of Washington. Staffing situation remains dire in many roles other than driving which is also causing serious issues.

Shout out to the guys and girls who have had to cover multiple roles and shifts to prevent a total collapse of parts of Go North East, often being the only ones running the show behind the scenes. I hope they take no notice of the absolute bollocks that those in management are posting on here and elsewhere claiming that the company is "over-staffed".


So one minute you give me a shout out, next minute you suggest I’m talking absolute bollocks? Make up your mind.


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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - MurdnunoC - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 5:49 am)Dan So one minute you give me a shout out, next minute you suggest I’m talking absolute bollocks? Make up your mind.


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Can we put it to a vote with the third option being 'Huuuuuuu'?


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Ambassador - 29 Jul 2022

I'm half expecting the Iraqi Information Minister (there's a reference for the kids) to start announcing GNE cancellations

'Everything is fine, there are no cancellations, all is good, they are lies - the evil axis of Stagecoach and Arriva are behind this. We have lots of drivers, too many drivers, we sent them all home. Customers are clapping and cheering our timetabled buses and our value fares and world class speedy contactless'


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - MurdnunoC - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 11:06 am)Ambassador I'm half expecting the Iraqi Information Minister (there's a reference for the kids) to start announcing GNE cancellations

'Everything is fine, there are no cancellations, all is good, they are lies - the evil axis of Stagecoach and Arriva are behind this. We have lots of drivers, too many drivers, we sent them all home. Customers are clapping and cheering our timetabled buses and our value fares and world class speedy contactless'

I thought the Libyian Information Minister was just as convincing.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Michael - 29 Jul 2022

Just noticed this on Arriva's site:

Due to high driver absence some services from Stockton Depot will be cancelled on Saturday 30th July 2022

Service 5A From Middlesbrough – 0912, 0942, 1042, 1112, 1212, 1242, 1342, 1412, 1442, 1512, 1542, 1647, 1727
Service 5A From Guisborough – 0824, 0854, 0954, 1024, 1124, 1154, 1254, 1324, 1424, 1454, 1524, 1559, 1629

Service 17 From Middlesbrough – 1805

Service 8 From Middlesbrough – 1210
Service 8 From Netherfields – 1240

Service 5 From Middlesbrough – 1752
Service 5 From Easington – 1918

Service 15 From 1537 Stockton to Roseworth, 1601 Roseworth to Bassleton Court, 1645 Bassleton Court to Roseworth, 1731 Roseworth to Bassleton Court, 1815 Bassleton Court to Roseworth.

Please be aware that the depot teams are frantically working to cover more of these journey’s and please check the Arriva UK Bus App for up-to-date information on cancellations.

We apologise sincerely for any inconvenience caused.




5A badly effected tomorrow


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - peter - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 3:57 pm)Michael Just noticed this on Arriva's site:

Due to high driver absence some services from Stockton Depot will be cancelled on Saturday 30th July 2022

Service 5A From Middlesbrough – 0912, 0942, 1042, 1112, 1212, 1242, 1342, 1412, 1442, 1512, 1542, 1647, 1727
Service 5A From Guisborough – 0824, 0854, 0954, 1024, 1124, 1154, 1254, 1324, 1424, 1454, 1524, 1559, 1629

Service 17 From Middlesbrough – 1805

Service 8 From Middlesbrough – 1210
Service 8 From Netherfields – 1240

Service 5 From Middlesbrough – 1752
Service 5 From Easington – 1918

Service 15 From 1537 Stockton to Roseworth, 1601 Roseworth to Bassleton Court, 1645 Bassleton Court to Roseworth, 1731 Roseworth to Bassleton Court, 1815 Bassleton Court to Roseworth.

Please be aware that the depot teams are frantically working to cover more of these journey’s and please check the Arriva UK Bus App for up-to-date information on cancellations.

We apologise sincerely for any inconvenience caused.




5A badly effected tomorrow

They've been posting cancellations from Stockton off and on for the past week or so now, always tends to be a small number of journeys on the 8 and 9 with the 5A being slightly more worse for wear. I suppose at least there is still the 5 running half hourly, only those in Hutton Gate in Guisborough missing out, which is still served by the 28 tbf.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 29 Jul 2022

(28 Jul 2022, 10:25 pm)BusLoverMum Well, if Adrian is working in Durham, tomorrow, he wo t be getting the 50 home, since there's none after 2:40, it seems. (no idea what setting made that so small) 

The following full journeys on the 50 will not operate:
  • From Durham: 11:36, 15:10, 15:40, 16:10, 16:45, 17:15, 17:50, 18:25 
  • From South Shields: 9:50, 15:23, 16:30, 17:05, 18:05, 19:38
It seem the 16:45 & 18:25 ran

18:25 was seemingly ran by an Angel who ran dead to Durham, then they switched buses with 6302 at CLS


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Jimmi - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 6:15 pm)Unber43 It seem the 16:45 & 18:25 ran

18:25 was seemingly ran by an Angel who ran dead to Durham, then they switched buses with 6302 at CLS

6322. It ran from CLS to Durham in service on the 50 then back to CLS connecting with 6302 there.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 6:15 pm)Unber43 It seem the 16:45 & 18:25 ran

18:25 was seemingly ran by an Angel who ran dead to Durham, then they switched buses with 6302 at CLS

I mean it's good the journeys ran after all, but too little too late for those who checked the list last night or this morning, then decided not to bother!


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 6:33 pm)Adrian I mean it's good the journeys ran after all, but too little too late for those who checked the list last night or this morning, then decided not to bother!
There is still a 2 hour wait tomorrow for a 50. 

With 3 Peak Time 4's cancelled from Heworth.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Andreos1 - 29 Jul 2022

https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1553081885219340289?t=O_BfmroalL9PUESsv6Hf0w&s=19

Just wait until the season starts...
People can't get to the match on the bus cos of poor public transport, operator complains about traffic impacting on the already poor public transport and cancels more services due to late running, making it even poorer...

Mind, I've got no idea what's causing so much disruption in Sunderland. Plenty of buses cancelled there due to late running too.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 29 Jul 2022

(29 Jul 2022, 7:25 pm)Andreos1 https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1553081885219340289?t=O_BfmroalL9PUESsv6Hf0w&s=19

Just wait until the season starts...
People can't get to the match on the bus cos of poor public transport, operator complains about traffic impacting on the already poor public transport and cancels more services due to late running, making it even poorer...

Mind, I've got no idea what's causing so much disruption in Sunderland. Plenty of buses cancelled there due to late running too.
Well the 61 was pretty much hourly to every 2 hours this afternoon, with massive delays on the 60 aswell. 

My friend sent me a photo from Park lane and the 20/X20 stand was down past the 35 stand, there must have been 60 people in that queue minimum.