(10 Dec 2021, 11:44 am)cbma06 Day tickets might be better , depends on the length of journey though, I’m sure GNE would prefer to sell there day tickets etc…

The extensions of x1 to Dalton park and Peterlee might look good through passengers eyes but since there are other services duplicating those extension sections by the same bus company and since the 65 have been turned into a bigger bus and frequency been doubled , GNE could advertise the 65 to Dalton Park connection on there X1 timetables and on the bus to promote the connection, same as the X1 to Easington lane and onward connection  with service 55 and 62 to Peterlee, probably more towards service 55 as it’s a bigger bus than the 62, I’m surprised GNE are duplicating there routes since there’s a pandemic on and it’s been said that there still making a loss or the money from the  government will shortly be going and there have to start making cut backs?.

The X1 extension that GNE should of looked into was extending some journeys from Easington Lane towards Haswell/Shotton/Wheatley Hill/side of Thornley and Ludworth back up the side of Haswell to Easington Lane, which would of been links between the villages and lost connection to Hetton/Houghton and towards Washington to Newcastle which were lost decades ago.


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(10 Dec 2021, 11:55 am)Keeiajs Speaking of the X1 - The Dalton Park leg has been a nightmare, most whcih I get run however it runs 3 mins after the X10 to newcaslte (doesn't help) + I tried to get one the other day and it turned around at Easington Lane (It was 3 mins early) and never came. Nothing on any social media. 
I also think the X1 extension to Dp could go further it has a 15 min wait it could extend to Seaham however the Peterlee & DP services are regularly 10-15 mins late. 
Also no one really knows about the X1's to Dalton Park atleast. Whenever I have got it they have askd the driver how long as this been running, as they quickly leave to get onto the X10 which comes 3 mins before it.

(10 Dec 2021, 11:44 am)cbma06 Day tickets might be better , depends on the length of journey though, I’m sure GNE would prefer to sell there day tickets etc… 

The extensions of x1 to Dalton park and Peterlee might look good through passengers eyes but since there are other services duplicating those extension sections by the same bus company and since the 65 have been turned into a bigger bus and frequency been doubled , GNE could advertise the 65 to Dalton Park connection on there X1 timetables and on the bus to promote the connection, same as the X1 to Easington lane and onward connection  with service 55 and 62 to Peterlee, probably more towards service 55 as it’s a bigger bus than the 62, I’m surprised GNE are duplicating there routes since there’s a pandemic on and it’s been said that there still making a loss or the money from the  government will shortly be going and there have to start making cut backs?.

The X1 extension that GNE should of looked into was extending some journeys from Easington Lane towards Haswell/Shotton/Wheatley Hill/side of Thornley and Ludworth back up the side of Haswell to Easington Lane, which would of been links between the villages and lost connection to Hetton/Houghton and towards Washington to Newcastle which were lost decades ago.


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(10 Dec 2021, 12:21 pm)Ds1197 The Peterlee and Dalton park journeys should be swapped around if they keeping it at 15 minute frequency for most of the route because they come pretty close to the same time as the X9 to Newcastle and Dalton Park with the X10 if Go North East swapped them around it would provide a 30 minuteish service from both places to Newcastle

(10 Dec 2021, 12:53 pm)Andreos1 Day tickets may not be an option though.
Someone working a late shift at say the cinema, McDonald's or KFC might be working beyond the last bus from Dalton Park - single there and a lift home.

(10 Dec 2021, 12:20 pm)streetdeckfan The advantage of the X1 over the X10 is the fact you don't have to buy a more expensive ticket to use it

(10 Dec 2021, 11:38 am)Rob44 This is what gets me too. A number of people on here are quick to say "you could jump on the bus to gateshead" when they are turning buses there for late running leaving Newcastle stranded... but if your just buying a single its 1.80 ( i think) then the same price from gateshead to you destination as it would have been from Newcastle. Now wouldn't it be a good idea to get buses going to town to pick up those waiting and get them to gateshead to catch the bus from there for free?  Just a thought

(10 Dec 2021, 3:08 pm)deanmachine You realise that these buses that are getting turned around in Gateshead are getting dropped out because they're running late for driver's rest periods and driving hours right? So if you send them to Newcastle they're not going to come back in service, they'll just end up missing out more of the route and starting further down the line. It's an unfortunate circumstance but the drivers who are dropped out in Gateshead should be transferring their passengers onto Newcastle bound buses so they don't pay again, but the people stranded in Newcastle are going to be stranded without a bus whether it makes it to Newcastle or not.

(10 Dec 2021, 3:08 pm)deanmachine You realise that these buses that are getting turned around in Gateshead are getting dropped out because they're running late for driver's rest periods and driving hours right? So if you send them to Newcastle they're not going to come back in service, they'll just end up missing out more of the route and starting further down the line. It's an unfortunate circumstance but the drivers who are dropped out in Gateshead should be transferring their passengers onto Newcastle bound buses so they don't pay again, but the people stranded in Newcastle are going to be stranded without a bus whether it makes it to Newcastle or not.

(10 Dec 2021, 4:02 pm)Rob44 Fair enough... but as this happens more and more maybe GNE and other should look at making sure this doesn't happen or when it does have something in place  so the customer in Newcastle are not " stranded"!!

(10 Dec 2021, 4:22 pm)deanmachine I agree, unfortunately I can't see the bus companies adding the extra buses into the PVR to make them more reliable, especially at the minute. Sometimes it just can't be helped though with road closures, diversions and incidents on the route.

(10 Dec 2021, 4:28 pm)Rob44 For me with better communication they drivers who do make it to Newcastle could ask passengers to board and then drop them off at Gateshead meaning the buses turning around at Gateshead get closers to there running time and the customers, even though having to board a bus to catch another one would get home..... rather than stand in the cold and rain of market street.

(10 Dec 2021, 5:03 pm)Andreos1 I think better communication is key. 
A 27 sweeping up passengers waiting for a 56 and dropping at Gateshead is surely a positive resolution to those punters.
Prior to route merging and consolidation, it may not have been too much of an issue. Chances are an alternative of sorts would have been available.

(10 Dec 2021, 10:27 am)cbma06 You could get any x1 to Hetton then get the half hourly service 65 from Hetton to Dalton park

(10 Dec 2021, 11:13 am)Andreos1 Owt on social media about it not running?

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It's an option I suppose, but could end up leaving customers out of pocket due to not being able to buy a single/return and depending on connection times, more than inconvenienced or delayed too.

(10 Dec 2021, 11:44 am)cbma06 Day tickets might be better , depends on the length of journey though, I’m sure GNE would prefer to sell there day tickets etc…

The extensions of x1 to Dalton park and Peterlee might look good through passengers eyes but since there are other services duplicating those extension sections by the same bus company and since the 65 have been turned into a bigger bus and frequency been doubled , GNE could advertise the 65 to Dalton Park connection on there X1 timetables and on the bus to promote the connection, same as the X1 to Easington lane and onward connection  with service 55 and 62 to Peterlee, probably more towards service 55 as it’s a bigger bus than the 62, I’m surprised GNE are duplicating there routes since there’s a pandemic on and it’s been said that there still making a loss or the money from the  government will shortly be going and there have to start making cut backs?.

The X1 extension that GNE should of looked into was extending some journeys from Easington Lane towards Haswell/Shotton/Wheatley Hill/side of Thornley and Ludworth back up the side of Haswell to Easington Lane, which would of been links between the villages and lost connection to Hetton/Houghton and towards Washington to Newcastle which were lost decades ago.

(10 Dec 2021, 5:50 pm)Adrian Where is that advertised? If I wasn't an enthusiast, how would I know that?

The lack of customer focus is shocking at times.

I'd agree about advertising onward connections better. You shouldn't have to have a good understanding of the bus network to use it. It's beyond me why we don't advertise the 21/X21 connections at Chester-le-Street for the 8/78 for example, or the 27/X9/X10 at Heworth for services into Newcastle, instead leaving people to think that the Metro is the only game in town.

We'll see what the BSIP has to offer in this respect, and hopefully not more of the same.

(10 Dec 2021, 6:27 pm)Jimmi Advertising connections seems to be a major weak point in bus operators and not just at GNE however I feel it is poor for example the evening 239 which was recently split into two services at Wingate/Station Town with GNE running Peterlee to Station Town and a small taxi company running Wingate to Sedgefield also with the number 239 doesn't have advertised connections despite the timetables being designed to do so, GNE only show their journeys in the 239 timetable, no mention whatsoever of a bus beyond Station Town to the Trimdons, Fishburn and Sedgefield, wouldn't be surprised if when contracts apparently go out for tender next year that the taxibus portion of the 239 to Sedgefield gets binned off with the classic phrase "due to low passenger numbers" being cited which could well be the case due to lack of knowledge of the service and passengers being put off using it due to being a taxi and having to change buses should they require the full route.

(10 Dec 2021, 6:27 pm)Jimmi Advertising connections seems to be a major weak point in bus operators and not just at GNE however I feel it is poor for example the evening 239 which was recently split into two services at Wingate/Station Town with GNE running Peterlee to Station Town and a small taxi company running Wingate to Sedgefield also with the number 239 doesn't have advertised connections despite the timetables being designed to do so, GNE only show their journeys in the 239 timetable, no mention whatsoever of a bus beyond Station Town to the Trimdons, Fishburn and Sedgefield, wouldn't be surprised if when contracts apparently go out for tender next year that the taxibus portion of the 239 to Sedgefield gets binned off with the classic phrase "due to low passenger numbers" being cited which could well be the case due to lack of knowledge of the service and passengers being put off using it due to being a taxi and having to change buses should they require the full route.

(10 Dec 2021, 6:56 pm)cbma06 Anything to do with route or timetables or connections etc… for the 239 is up to the local authority and not GNE

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