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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Iamtheone8483748 - 02 Sep 2023

Must be a wider issue across different vehicle types if this is true as there is "Operational issues" on numerous Washington & Deptford routes.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - deanmachine - 02 Sep 2023

(02 Sep 2023, 8:17 am)Unber43 "go north east buses have not yet updated website, due to safety issues some services arent running today, if you using buses they may not be running, so try checking online first before travelling"

I saw this on FB, any truth to it?

It seem to be Versa's issue with only one 2 on

How are you meant to check online if their website hasn't been updated?


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - User2613 - 06 Sep 2023

Final 3 trips to and from Brandon on the 21 on cancellation list for tomorrow. Last bus from Newcastle will be 15:40. Absolutely shocking.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Ambassador - 06 Sep 2023

There’s a 21 to Durham at 15.40 tomorrow and the next one is 17,42!

Surely you extend one to Durham at least to cover the intermediate stops

Incompetence not disruptive…incompetence


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - streetdeckfan - 06 Sep 2023

(06 Sep 2023, 7:03 pm)User2613 Final 3 trips to and from Brandon on the 21 on cancellation list for tomorrow. Last bus from Newcastle will be 15:40. Absolutely shocking.

Pfff, that's nowt. That's just the usual last bus time for the X21 to West Auckland.

Might as well scrap the extension if they can't be arsed to run it later. It's not as if passenger numbers aren't there, the X21 is just as busy, if not busier than the 6 these days!


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - MVK500R - 07 Sep 2023

Not even a week in, and there's cancellations on the North Tyne Rockets.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 07 Sep 2023

(07 Sep 2023, 5:47 am)MVK500R Not even a week in, and there's cancellations on the North Tyne Rockets.

It's unfortunate, but I don't think you can look at it in isolation. Other services from that depot are also suffering.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 07 Sep 2023

But percy main runs such tight timetables/ less frequent routes that any service that get cancelled screws over the rest of the services


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Adrian - 07 Sep 2023

(07 Sep 2023, 11:20 am)Unber43 But percy main runs such tight timetables/ less frequent routes that any service that get cancelled screws over the rest of the services

Is that really different from anywhere else? Most services are cut to the bone now, so even one bus missing has a big impact on others, but in a different way.

Hourly services obviously leave a huge timetable gap.
An X1 missing from the timetable leaves a smaller gap, but a bigger knock-on impact due to the volumes using it.

You can easily add the Metro to that too. My evening Metro was missing last night, meaning there was a gap in timetable and a very busy Metro. The knock on being that I missed my connecting bus.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 07 Sep 2023

(07 Sep 2023, 11:26 am)Adrian Is that really different from anywhere else? Most services are cut to the bone now, so even one bus missing has a big impact on others, but in a different way.

Hourly services obviously leave a huge timetable gap.
An X1 missing from the timetable leaves a smaller gap, but a bigger knock-on impact due to the volumes using it.

You can easily add the Metro to that too. My evening Metro was missing last night, meaning there was a gap in timetable and a very busy Metro. The knock on being that I missed my connecting bus.
True I suppose now, where as in the past of services every 10/12 mins, a missing 4/X1/56/60/58/1/96/97 wouldn't have created that much of an impact three years ago, but now everything just hits the fan


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 08 Sep 2023

3/4 21 ran dead from Brandon in a row today to CLS


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Rob44 - 09 Sep 2023

several 21 were head south the tyne bridge yesterday at peak. not sure if they were diverted due to something happening in the city centre?


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Unber43 - 09 Sep 2023

Percy Main still have cancellations and the 351/355/359 are run from Saltmeddows


Disruptions and driver shortages - Dan - 09 Sep 2023

(09 Sep 2023, 4:26 pm)Unber43 Percy Main still have cancellations and the 351/355/359 are run from Saltmeddows


Given the near 40-driver increase to provide the 335 , 351-355 and 359, the number of cancellations at Percy Main is tiny.

It was always ambitious, and there are drivers at Arriva who are waiting to come across as soon as their settlement is paid.


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RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - nova347 - 09 Sep 2023

Wait so who driving the ones that are in Saltmedows, drivers from other depots? Are Percy Main drivers going to Saltmedows or what?

There are some Deptford cancellations today, and that Percy Main cancellations aren't that bad for taking on these new routes. But if they still had the 19 then it would have been worse and if the 307/309 were back to their previous frequency. But depending on how many arrive drivers it might not. be too bad Plus if they do well they might increase the frequency, if the current frequency now needs almost 40+ drivers imagine how much a every 30-minute frequency or with later running services would need. How have they been doing with passenger numbers if you look at flicker the ones I've seen look quite busy.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - R852 PRG - 09 Sep 2023

(09 Sep 2023, 5:25 pm)nova347 Wait so who driving the ones that are in Saltmedows, drivers from other depots? Are Percy Main drivers going to Saltmedows or what?

There are some Deptford cancellations today, and that Percy Main cancellations aren't that bad for taking on these new routes. But if they still had the 19 then it would have been worse and if the 307/309 were back to their previous frequency. But depending on how many arrive drivers it might not. be too bad Plus if they do well they might increase the frequency, if the current frequency now needs almost 40+ drivers imagine how much a every 30-minute frequency or with later running services would need. How have they been doing with passenger numbers if you look at flicker the ones I've seen look quite busy.

Agency drivers.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - V514DFT - 11 Sep 2023

307 seems to be suffering today, the 11.36 307 from Verne Road was a no show, the 11.56 was 8 minutes late, i imagine the 309 and 351 are also suffering?


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - Thomas12 - 11 Sep 2023

(11 Sep 2023, 11:14 am)V514DFT 307 seems to be suffering today, the 11.36 307 from Verne Road was a no show, the 11.56 was 8 minutes late, i imagine the 309 and 351 are also suffering?

A few 1 and 41 services are also cancelled, more than what is posted on their short notice cancellation page.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - mb134 - 11 Sep 2023

If Bustimes is to be believed, there have been a few North Tyne Rockets cancelled:

352: 0755, 1000, 1200 from Haymarket. 0825 from Cramlington.

353: 0707 from North Shields. 0900 from Cramlington, and 1100 from Cramlington was picked up at New York.

Think there's a couple of 355s too.

Vehicles which have subsequently tracked on some of those boards, as far as I can tell, have previously tracked today so it doesn't appear to be a tracking issue.

The Arriva Blyth situation doesn't seem to have improved much against last week either, there appears to be an X10/11 missing, currently one X7/8/9 missing (and a breakdown), and a 308 board missing.


RE: Disruptions and driver shortages - citaro5284 - 11 Sep 2023

(11 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)mb134 If Bustimes is to be believed, there have been a few North Tyne Rockets cancelled:

352: 0755, 1000, 1200 from Haymarket. 0825 from Cramlington.

353: 0707 from North Shields. 0900 from Cramlington, and 1100 from Cramlington was picked up at New York.

Think there's a couple of 355s too.

Vehicles which have subsequently tracked on some of those boards, as far as I can tell, have previously tracked today so it doesn't appear to be a tracking issue.

The Arriva Blyth situation doesn't seem to have improved much against last week either, there appears to be an X10/11 missing, currently one X7/8/9 missing (and a breakdown), and a 308 board missing.

Notice a post on a local facebook group saying that the 1745, 1825 and 2015 X7 services from Newcastle are not running today.  So that is a bus at 1715 then 1915 then 2115 to the likes of Seghill, Seaton Delaval and New Hartley.