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RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - tyresmoke - 31 Aug 2013

It was more in response to Arriva putting Omnicities on it, Stagecoach felt they had to upgrade their bit too.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Dan - 31 Aug 2013

(31 Aug 2013, 9:06 am)tyresmoke It was more in response to Arriva putting Omnicities on it, Stagecoach felt they had to upgrade their bit too.

I have no doubt it was eventually going to happen after Arriva upgraded their runs, but perhaps not so soon... I was always under the impression it was to be achieved by the end of the year. Seems strange that - immediately after GNE put the VOSA registration in - fleet movements are in progress to allow the coaches to move elsewhere.
Stagecoach needed to ensure they had low floor buses on there before the competing service arrived. After all, they couldn't just hand passengers to GNE like that, could they?! Wink

Good ol' bus war on our hands, I think!
Stagecoach still have 52629 out today, in addition to 27767, so feels very much like a trial to me.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - markydh - 31 Aug 2013

You're reading way too much into that. Arriva put omnicities on due to the appalling reliability of their coaches and following a high profile campaign by the local MP virtually forcing Arriva into action. Once Arriva did this, it was inevitable Stagecoach would have to follow suit on their turns sooner rather than later. The E300's in question are just a temporary stop gap before more appropriate low floor buses are sourced. It's also worth noting that GNE's 'fast' X85 runs on the opposite half hour to the 685 and is therefore just providing a greater frequency. The X84 runs 5 minutes before from both Hexham and Newcastle off peak but takes an hour so it's unlikely it'll tempt that many fare paying passengers from the much quicker 685.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Dan - 31 Aug 2013

Cheaper fares will potentially be available to passengers, assuming they are travelling from Newcastle to Hexham rather than continuing their journey further afield.
Links with "Tynedale Links" services will be offered, with fares available for those travelling from Newcastle and connecting to these services.
Go North East's services have WiFi, and I'd also say that Go North East's services will be more reliable. With a dedicated spare (5229) based at Hexham, passengers can have peace of mind that their service should be replaced within 20 minutes of the breakdown occurring, assuming their Solar does break down.

Let's face it - I know which service is more attractive to me as a passenger, if I'm travelling to Hexham.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - tyresmoke - 31 Aug 2013

(31 Aug 2013, 11:24 am)Daniel Cheaper fares will potentially be available to passengers, assuming they are travelling from Newcastle to Hexham rather than continuing their journey further afield.
Links with "Tynedale Links" services will be offered, with fares available for those travelling from Newcastle and connecting to these services.
Go North East's services have WiFi, and I'd also say that Go North East's services will be more reliable. With a dedicated spare (5229) based at Hexham, passengers can have peace of mind that their service should be replaced within 20 minutes of the breakdown occurring, assuming their Solar does break down.

Let's face it - I know which service is more attractive to me as a passenger, if I'm travelling to Hexham.

We'll see but I'm expecting it more to thin out the loads on service 10 across 2 buses rather than win too many passengers off existing express services. Not to mention Go North East's express service doesn't run on Sundays when many people may choose to visit places enroute or connect in Hexham on to the Hadrians Wall service.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Tom - 16 Sep 2013

Service 685 has still had decent loads, however mainly OAP's.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Tom - 23 Sep 2013

The summer timetables are almost coming to a end (start of November), which means one bad thing. The B10M's (the best buses I have ever been on) and Olympians are going. I'd strongly recommend if you wish to photograph those brilliant buses you make a trip into Central Lakes or Carlisle as soon as possible.

In addition, does anyone think any changes will be made to services next year? Services can change in that area, for example the 800 had a major change. It operated from Whinlatter Forest to Windermere a few times a day last year, however it operates hourly from Ambleside to Haverwaite this year.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Michael - 23 Sep 2013

Not sure where to put this but a school bus (blue solo) and lorry crashed this morning near kendel, no injured on the school bus... bus driver has being arrested


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - northern156 - 24 Sep 2013

(23 Sep 2013, 3:08 pm)W179SCU I'd strongly recommend if you wish to photograph those brilliant buses you make a trip into Central Lakes or Carlisle as soon as possible.
You'd be lucky to find an Olympian in Carlisle - saying that though, Carlisle's last remaining Olly 16650 is out and about, it sometimes does 104 runs and sometimes city services - I saw it on the 61/61As a few weeks back!
B10Ms are most commonly seen on the 93 to Bowness on Solway I think; not much more.

(23 Sep 2013, 9:34 pm)Michael Not sure where to put this but a school bus (blue solo) and lorry crashed this morning near kendel, no injured on the school bus... bus driver has being arrested
Was Kirkby Lonsdale Coaches' Y268DRC - photo here http://www.flickr.com/photos/60671109@N08/8806022749/ (not mine).
http://news.sky.com/story/1145314/cumbria-school-bus-crash-children-injured


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Dan - 11 Oct 2013

Fleet Movements in Period 6 (16th September to 13th October) are given below:
  • 16652 (R252NBV) - Lillyhall to Lillyhall (Reserve)
  • 16668 (R268NBV) - Awaiting Disposal to Sold
  • 16793 (P723GND) - Stagecoach Manchester to Morecambe
  • 16795 (P725GND) - Stagecoach Manchester to Morecambe
  • 17012 (S812BWC) - Kendal to Kendal (Reserve)
  • 17013 (S813BWC) - Kendal to Kendal (Reserve)
  • 17221 (V221MEV) - Kendal to Kendal (Reserve)
  • 17246 (X246NNO) - Lillyhall to Lillyhall (Reserve)
  • 18380 (MX55KRO) - Lillyhall (Reserve) to Lillyhall.
  • 20540 (P540ESA) - Awaiting Disposal to Sold
  • 22140 (S140TRJ) - Awaiting Disposal to Sold
  • 33076 (V972DRM) - Lillyhall (Reserve) to Lillyhall (Awaiting Disposal)
  • 35247 (PX56CWN) - Awaiting Disposal to Sold
  • 52627 (S797KRM) - Lillyhall (Reserve) to Lillyhall
  • 52629 (S799KRM) - Carlisle (Reserve) to Carlisle
  • 52635 (S665SDT) - Lillyhall to Lillyhall (Driver Training Unit)



RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - ultralow - 13 Oct 2013

2 ex magic bus Rl's from Manchester have been sent to Lancaster for service apparently.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Dan - 13 Oct 2013

(13 Oct 2013, 3:54 pm)ultralow 2 ex magic bus Rl's from Manchester have been sent to Lancaster for service apparently.

That's true - see post above.
"16793 (P723GND) - Stagecoach Manchester to Morecambe
16795 (P725GND) - Stagecoach Manchester to Morecambe"


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Wright Dart 40416 - 13 Oct 2013

Any idea of whether these Olympians will be either used on Schools or on normal services, be good if one finds its way to Blackpool or Preston on 40 group of services although I very much doubt they will


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Wright Dart 40416 - 13 Oct 2013

Answering my own question I've just had it confirmed that the Olympians once repainted will be going into the general double deck fleet and will be used on any services except the Prestons except in an emergency


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Tom - 24 Oct 2013

Not sure if anyone was aware, but 16664 is now in a rather smart Stagecoach Stripes livery, photo below:

© cms_Cumberland

[Image: 10366013516_f88b5ce7ab_s.jpg]

Additionally, the new ''Winter Connection'' brochure is now available! It can be viewed here


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Kuyoyo - 24 Oct 2013

(24 Oct 2013, 5:01 pm)Tom Not sure if anyone was aware, but 16664 is now in a rather smart Stagecoach Stripes livery, photo below:

© cms_Cumberland

[Image: 10366013516_f88b5ce7ab_s.jpg]

Additionally, the new ''Winter Connection'' brochure is now available! It can be viewed here

That has been like that for a number of years.


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Tom - 24 Oct 2013

(24 Oct 2013, 5:26 pm)Kuyoyo That has been like that for a number of years.

I wasn't aware, cheers for pointing that out Smile


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Kuyoyo - 10 Nov 2013

A new look for the Darts and Solos in the Lakes next year - 34679 is the first painted into 'Lakes' livery, it is to be followed by 34685 and 47721/2 (Photo and information @ Lee Wardle)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoachuk/10774961256/


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Michael - 10 Nov 2013

(10 Nov 2013, 11:24 am)Kuyoyo A new look for the Darts and Solos in the Lakes next year - 34679 is the first painted into 'Lakes' livery, it is to be followed by 34685 and 47721/2 (Photo and information @ Lee Wardle)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoachuk/10774961256/

It looks good, will it have pictures of the lakes on?


RE: Stagecoach Cumbria & North Lancashire - Tom - 10 Nov 2013

(10 Nov 2013, 11:26 am)Michael It looks good, will it have pictures of the lakes on?

I'd imagine it will be like the 555 livery. But yeah, looks smart, however will never beat B10M's. They are totally amazing!