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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Adrian - 06 Jun 2016
(06 Jun 2016, 6:25 pm)Andreos1 I don't think they ever have. Too many have been and gone over the years (like the X20 - and X3 before; X95/96, the coalfields - Newcastle via Sunderland expresses and the more recent X3 up Newcastle Road).
With regard to the X20, I don't think there was enough variation compared to the 20. It wasn't that much quicker and didn't deviate too much from the existing route.
When you look at the 21 and X21, the difference is/was noticable and whilst the 20 can suffer with reliability, I am not sure it was ever to the extent the 21 can suffer.
It was the Durham to Houghton section that was quicker. I used it every afternoon from work when it was introduced, and you did save massively on the 20. It would do limited stop to the Belmont Sportsman arms, and then non-stop to Houghton, iirc? Perhaps it served West Rainton, but that may have been the 20X!
Sunderland suffers because the city centre is a mess. It's gone from being a thriving high street, to a pretty non-existent high street, and a shopping mall full of pound shops or cash for gold places. Binns is obviously long gone too.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 06 Jun 2016
(06 Jun 2016, 6:34 pm)Adrian It was the Durham to Houghton section that was quicker. I used it every afternoon from work when it was introduced, and you did save massively on the 20. It would do limited stop to the Belmont Sportsman arms, and then non-stop to Houghton, iirc? Perhaps it served West Rainton, but that may have been the 20X!
Sunderland suffers because the city centre is a mess. It's gone from being a thriving high street, to a pretty non-existent high street, and a shopping mall full of pound shops or cash for gold places. Binns is obviously long gone too.
Which on balance, probably isn't the most popular section of the route.
I must admit to preferring it over the other two '20's' as it stands now, getting it regularly on a morning when heading to the station and occasionally from. It saves 5/10 mins off memory now and at that time of the morning - is ideal.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 06 Jun 2016
Without invading wearside with a express ive another suggestion
3. Houghton le spring - fence houses - Great lumley - chester le street - ouston - Team Valley - Whickham - metrocentre .
This service is to replace the 36 between hougton and chester.
Then up to ouston before straight to Team Valley this will allow the x32 to be withdrawn.
Then allows a connection to metrocentre.
This service is to be every 30 minutes between hougton and chester le street. And every hour onwards.
32. Sunderland - Grangetown - Ryhope - ryhope dean - seaham station - byron place - dawdon - spectrum - dalton park - murton.
This service would allow the 238 to ternamate at seaham and enable a bus to dalton park from estates in the bottom of ryhope.
Also replaces the 202 between seaham and dalton park.
202. Peterlee - Easington village - Easington lane - murton - dalton park - mill inn - ryhope village - Esdale Estate - tunstall bank.
This service will operate as normal untill dalton park.
Then the same way as the 61 enabling it to be every 20 minutes. Then replaces the 38 up to Tunstall bank.
2. Washington - lampton - shiney Row - penshaw - hospital - sunderland - villete road - Grangetown - hollycarside - ryhope stores - tunstall village - silksworth.
No change to this.
2A washington - biddick - penshaw - hospital - barnes park - sunderland interchange - Ashbrooke - leechmere Asda - hollycarside - Tunstall village - silksworth.
This service will replace the other part of the 38 and 238 route on a 30 minute frequency .
2B Evening and sunday operating the same route as service 2A.
2c Washington - waterview park - chester road- sunderland - villete road - Grangetown - Ryhope village - tunstall bank - silksworth.
This service can operate hourly providing extra transport along with the 2.
A big change would be this runs limited stop to sunderland.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - MurdnunoC - 06 Jun 2016
(06 Jun 2016, 7:32 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com 3. Houghton le spring - fence houses - Great lumley - chester le street - ouston - Team Valley - Whickham - metrocentre .
This service is to replace the 36 between hougton and chester.
Then up to ouston before straight to Team Valley this will allow the x32 to be withdrawn.
Then allows a connection to metrocentre.
I'm pretty sure the focus of service X32 is provide peak-time links between Stanley and Team Valley as well as Ouston. I have no idea what loadings are like, but what will replace the link to Stanley if the service is withdrawn?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Jackamcardle - 06 Jun 2016
(06 Jun 2016, 7:43 pm)MurdnunoC I'm pretty sure the focus of service X32 is provide peak-time links between Stanley and Team Valley as well as Ouston. I have no idea what loadings are like, but what will replace the link to Stanley if the service is withdrawn?
Good loadings - rode the route a few times
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 06 Jun 2016
(06 Jun 2016, 7:43 pm)MurdnunoC I'm pretty sure the focus of service X32 is provide peak-time links between Stanley and Team Valley as well as Ouston. I have no idea what loadings are like, but what will replace the link to Stanley if the service is withdrawn?
Connect with the 8
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 07 Jun 2016
X2. Low moorsley - hetton le hole - East rainton - west rainton - bournmoor - Great lumley - chester le street - non stop to Washington - wrekenton - Gateshead - newcastle .
This service will allow service 35 to ternamate at hetton alliwing a pvr decrease.
The x2 will provide a faster link to chester le street from rainton.
The service will be hourly using a pvr of 3.
35. Newcastle - Gateshead - heworth - Downhill - red house - southwick - sunderland - hospital - barnes - silksworth - East herrington - herrington burn - hougton le spring - hetton downs - hetton interchange - Easington lane.
This service provides a direct bus sunderland to newcastle at a hourly frequency.
The service will operate as the old x36 to heworth then non stop to Downhill lane.
The service omits boldon taken 5 minutes of the journey.
The service ternamates at Easington lane.
This service runs on a hourly frequency.
35A heworth - wardley - boldon - downhill - town end farm - hylton castle - casletown - southwick - sunderland - barnes park - east herrington - herrington burn - hougton le spring - rainton bridge (monday to Saturday ).
This service will operate every hour combined with the 35 and 36 this service also serves boldon and wardley.
On Monday to Saturday the service serves rainton bridge.
The 35A also no longer serves hospital and silksworth.
36. Chester-le-Street - Great lumley - fence houses - Hougton le spring - herrington burn - east herrington - silksworth - barnes - hospital - palion - casletown - ferryboat lane - southwick - seaburn
This service will operate hourly joining with 35 and 35a to form a every 20 minute service, then serves hospital to provide the link back that was lost.
The service carrys on through palion direct to casletown then along ferryboat lane.
After ferryboat lane the service extends along wessington way to southwick.
Then to seaburn id say the route will take around 1 hour 40 minutes .
X36. ( peak morning service ).
Town end farm - downhill - red house - ramsgate road - southwick - sunderland
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - streetlite5402 - 07 Jun 2016
(06 Jun 2016, 7:58 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Connect with the 8
Where will passengers connect with the 8?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Adrian - 07 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 5:19 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com X2. Low moorsley - hetton le hole - East rainton - west rainton - bournmoor - Great lumley - chester le street - non stop to Washington - wrekenton - Gateshead - newcastle .
How long would it take from end to end?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - streetlite5402 - 07 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 10:10 pm)Adrian How long would it take from end to end?
In my opinion, serving Bournmoor would be fairly illogical. I can't see how a pattern of East Rainton, West Rainton, Bournmoor and Great Lumley would work out. The service would have to come down to East Rainton from Hetton-le-Hole, on to West Rainton, and then through Lumley via Leamside. Serving Bournmoor would mean effectively doubling back and adding an unnecessary amount of time to the service.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 07 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 9:42 pm)streetlite5402 Where will passengers connect with the 8?
Chester-le-Street
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 07 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 10:10 pm)Adrian How long would it take from end to end?
1 hour 30
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - streetlite5402 - 07 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 10:33 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Chester-le-Street
Connecting with the 8 at Chester-le-Street wouldn't restore a lost link between Stanley, Ouston and the Team Valley?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - South Tyne Lad - 08 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 10:36 pm)streetlite5402 Connecting with the 8 at Chester-le-Street wouldn't restore a lost link between Stanley, Ouston and the Team Valley?
Also there already is a link between all of the them ( peak time only ) Service X32 serves Stanley, Ouston and the Team Valley.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - S813 FVK - 08 Jun 2016
(08 Jun 2016, 6:54 am)South Tyne Lad Also there already is a link between all of the them ( peak time only ) Service X32 serves Stanley, Ouston and the Team Valley.
Thats what we are discussing. In Biglugs' suggestion, he would withdraw the X32 and replace it with service 3 which wouldn't go to Stanley, forcing people to get the 8 to CLS and change instead of having a through bus straight there.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Jamie M - 08 Jun 2016
(08 Jun 2016, 6:58 am)S813 FVK Thats what we are discussing. In Biglugs' suggestion, he would withdraw the X32 and replace it with service 3 which wouldn't go to Stanley, forcing people to get the 8 to CLS and change instead of having a through bus straight there.The suggestion is basically 36 running onto an X22 via Whickham. The X32s are packed to Ouston, so in doing so you'd be removing a popular peak trip in place for something that already exists with relatively low demand.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 08 Jun 2016
(07 Jun 2016, 10:32 pm)streetlite5402 In my opinion, serving Bournmoor would be fairly illogical. I can't see how a pattern of East Rainton, West Rainton, Bournmoor and Great Lumley would work out. The service would have to come down to East Rainton from Hetton-le-Hole, on to West Rainton, and then through Lumley via Leamside. Serving Bournmoor would mean effectively doubling back and adding an unnecessary amount of time to the service.Without saying the suggestion was good or not, it wouldn't need to enter Lumley from Leamside. It could scoot along through Woodstone Village the way the X23 did at one point. It could loop around at the turning circle at New Lambton (not served since the days of the 178, 160 and 163) and then follow the route of the 78 from the quirky little roundabout at Bournmoor.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 09 Jun 2016
89. Metrocentre - Dunston - team valley - saltwell park - qe hospital - felling squre - heworth - pelaw - hebburn - jarrow - bede - south shields.
This service will replace the 96 team valley to metrocentre then 69 to wardley before additionaly extending to South shields.
This service would run every hour.
27 renumbered 87.
Newcastle - Gateshead - heworth - pelaw - hebburn - jarrow - fellgate - primrose - tyne dock - chichester - south shields.
This service will operate a every 20 minute frequency extending back to fellgate alike a former 87 service then operate the way the x20 goes to shields.
87A *new*
Heworth - A184 - boldon cinema - fellgate - jarrow - bede - south shields.
This service will operate every 30 minutes replacing service 35;35a and x36 between heworth and boldon then replaces the 9 jarrow to boldon.
Then serving bede giving 3x buses per hour.
9 . Sunderland - fullwell - east boldon - boldon Asda - fellgate.
This service will operate a 30 minute frequency running only sunderland to fellgate with connections available to the 87,87a.
59. North Shields - jarrow - bede - chichester - harton nook - marsdern - whitburn - seaburn - roker - sunderland .
This service will operate every hour still giving a bus to north shields from Sunderland then serving new areas .
Id estamate the journey to take 1 hour 20 mins.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 12 Jun 2016
1. Metrocentre - Lemington - A169 - newcastle General hospital - st james park - near haymarket - coast road - cobalt - percy main - north shields - Tynemouth - whitley bay.
This service to operate every 30 minutes the service leaves metrocentre to Lemington then onwards along the A169 providing more Gne buses.
Stops near haymarket given a bus to cobalt then it replaces the 80 to North shields.
Normal route on wards.
From this the 309 will become every 20 minutes aswell as the 310.
The pvr for this service is 8 (5261-70).
1A. Wallsend - percy main - north shields - Tynemouth - whitley bay - blyth
This service will operate at every 30 minutes joining with the 1 to form a every 15 minute service.
This service can also serve Wallsend metro.
The service also operates to blyth at a every 30 minute frequency.
The pvr of this service is 6.
5251,52,71,72,73,74).
5270 is the dedicated spare for both services.
Also cobalt b9s will be freed up from this change.
6114-17 to move to Stanley for red kite services.
5410-13 to move to deptford for service 33 and 38.
Also the 309 will serve blyth on sundays and evenings.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 15 Jun 2016
31. Washington - lampton - fatfield - shiney row - herrington burn - east herrington - Durham road - barnes - royal hospital - sunderland.
This service will replace the 2 and 35 improving the route.
32. Washington - Biddick - penshaw - hospital - sunderland - Grangetown - Hollycarside - silksworth.
This service will fully replace the 2A.
32A.Rainton bridge (peak times )- shiney Row - penshaw - hospital - barnes - silksworth.
This service will operate at peak times to Rainton bridge with all other journeys finnishing at shiney row.
This service replaces the part of the 2 route the 31 does not serve.
Also faster journeys.
35 Low moorsley - hetton le hole - hougton le spring - A690 - Doxford international - east herrington - Durham road - Thorney close - barnes - sunderland - wheatsheaf - direct to casletown - hylton castle - downhill - boldon.
This service will replace the x35 to doxford international and provide a faster journey to casletown
36. Chester-le-Street - Great lumley - hougton le spring - herrington burn - east herrington - silksworth - barnes - sunderland.
This service will remain the same