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RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 21 Jun 2016
39. Pennywell - hospital - sunderland - villete road - Grangetown - Ryhope village - tunstall bank - Doxford Park shops.
This service will no longer serve doxford international only at peak times and run to a half hourly frequency.
39A. South Hylton - pennywell - hylton road - millfield - university metro - sunderland interchange - Grangetown - Ryhope - tunstall bank - silksworth - moorside - Doxford international.
This service will run to a hourly frequency extending to South hylton monday to Saturday daytimes also competing with stagecoach services.
This service also serves sunderland interchange.
The service will allow more buses sunderland interchange to ryhope.
38. Washington - teal farm - waterview park - a19 - prestbury road - hospital - sunderland homeside - Grangetown - leechmere Asda - hollycarside - esdale estate - tunstall bank - Doxford shops - moorside.
This service will operate a hourly frequency replacing service 8a.
This service provides additional buses to teal farm.
This service replaces the 39 at moorside and so this service will loop around that estate.
This service will run hourly.
238 . This service to be renumbered.
203. Washington - barnwell - shiney Row - fence houses - Hougton le spring - hall lane - seaham mill inn - Dalton park.
This service can introduce a new link to dalton park
The service provides a extra bus to barnwell and the route will possibly carry alot more passengers.
202. Extended to sunderland .
Normal route to seaham then replaces the current 238 route.
To get the extra indigo bus the 265 will be renumbered 65 and ran from Chester-le-Street
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 22 Jun 2016
21. Newcastle - Gateshead - birtley - chester le street.
This service will operate a every 10 minute frequency using a pvr of 11. (6056-67).
22. Metrocentre - Team Valley - birtley - chester le street - Arnison centre - durham.
This service will operate a every hour service replacing service x22.
Using a pvr of 3.
(3962-64).
X46 renumbered x50.
X50 crook - Willington - durham - framwellgate moor - chester le street - washington
This service will replace the 50 route chester le street to washington and replaces x46.
This service will use a pvr of 3 ( 6068-70)
3965 as spare.
50. This service will run at a every 20 minute frequency replacing the 21 route with service 22 covering the old 50 route
The pvr will increase by 3.
8. Stanley - beamish museum - pelton - chester le street - birtley - barley mow - washington - barmston - peel - waterview park - Enterprise park - sunderland.
This service provides extra transport from the 21s loss and will replace the 82 from birtley to Washington then to the peel
The service will operate every 30 minutes.
84. Barmston court - columbia - washington - Washington retail park - concord - leam lane - heworth
This service will replace the 82,85,86 at a every 20 minute frequency through this it can allow the 4 to go every 12 minutes.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 22 Jun 2016
What will you renumber the soccer bus to
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 22 Jun 2016
(22 Jun 2016, 8:03 pm)V514DFT What will you renumber the soccer bus to
What soccer bus?
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - NK53 TKT - 22 Jun 2016
(22 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com What soccer bus?
The X50:
http://www.simplygo.com/all-services/soccerbus
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 24 Jun 2016
2. Sunderland docks - sunderland - chester road - penshaw - shiney row - fatfield - lampton - washington - Birtley - low fell - team valley - Whickham - blaydon - winlaton.
This service will be introduced to replace service 33 between the docks and town allowing a link to chester road.
This service will replace service 82A to Birtley before running along with the 21 to low fell then completley replacing service 69.
This service will run hourly.
2A. Sunderland docks - sunderland - chester road - penshaw - barnwell - fatfield - biddick - washington - birtley - barley mow - chester le street.
This service will also replace service 33 between the docks and town.
This service will operate hourly.
Normal route to washington before replacing service 82 to barley mow.
This service will cut service x25 to hourly.
38. Silksworth - Tunstall village - Esdale Estate - Hollycarside - leechmere Asda - Grangetown - villete road - sunderland interchange.
This service will operate every 20 minutes replacing service 2 and additionaly serving Esdale Estate .
The service wont serve Tunstall bank estate.
The service will allow route 238 to be changed.
The service provides new links from silksworth to leechmere asda that were lost.
38A. Tunstall bank - Ryhope stores - Ryhope village - Hollycarside - leechmere Asda - Ashbrooke - sunderland interchange.
This service will operate hourly and running the same way as service 38c except not serving esdale estate .
38B. Tunstall bank - ryhope stores - hollycarside - Grangetown - sunderland interchange.
This service will operate hourly replacing service 2 and 2a with a direct route to Grangetown.
The service wont serve hendon.
Through the new 38 services theyll be 5 buses an hour the same as now but with alterations.
Service 238 will serve Grangetown before heading up to leechmere asda.
Service 82 will remain washington to heworth
Service 33 sunderland to silksworth
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - LVK 404L - 25 Jun 2016
Service 26
South Shields -Westoe - Chichester- Tyne Dock-simonside - Low Simonside - Primrose - Monkton Village - Monkton Lane - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle
Uing alternate vehicles from service 27 each operating every 20 mins giving combined 10 min service South Shields - Tyne Dock and Monkton Lane - Newcastle.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - MurdnunoC - 25 Jun 2016
(24 Jun 2016, 7:13 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com 2. Sunderland docks - sunderland - chester road - penshaw - shiney row - fatfield - lampton - washington - Birtley - low fell - team valley - Whickham - blaydon - winlaton.
There was once a service similar to this but I can't quite place the route number....
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Jackamcardle - 25 Jun 2016
(25 Jun 2016, 9:01 pm)MurdnunoC There was once a service similar to this but I can't quite place the route number....
I'm pretty sure that was the 638
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 26 Jun 2016
8. Castleside - consett - Flint hill - Annifield plain - stanley - beamish - chester le street - washington art centre - washington - waterview park - casletown - sunderland.
This service will join the 8 and 16 together using a pvr of 11.
5284 - 92 + 5333-35. These vehicles will feature wifi and provide a comfortable ride.
5336 will be spare.
16. Stanley - Sacriston - durham.
This service will be reduced to every 20 minutes using a pvr of 4. ( 5395- 98).
5399 - 5407. Used for the 78 given a new name with 5401 being in the brand with 5408 red.
Vehicles to form the x7 allocation will come from this service suggestion.
66. Metrocentre - all stops to metrocentre.
This service will operate a 10 minute frequency using 4x new double deck vehicles allowing 5391-94 to move to Peterlee for the x7.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - S813 FVK - 26 Jun 2016
Your first suggestion was done when the Lime services were first introduced. The bus operated from Sunderland to Stanley as an X8 and then continued from Stanley to Castleside as an 8. The X8 was withdrawn and service 8 was revised to operate between Castleside and Chester-le-Street.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - MurdnunoC - 26 Jun 2016
66 has been done too. Used to stop at all stops on Dunston Road when it operated via the A1.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - R852 PRG - 26 Jun 2016
(26 Jun 2016, 6:37 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com 8. Castleside - consett - Flint hill - Annifield plain - stanley - beamish - chester le street - washington art centre - washington - waterview park - casletown - sunderland.
This service will join the 8 and 16 together using a pvr of 11.
5284 - 92 + 5333-35. These vehicles will feature wifi and provide a comfortable ride.
5336 will be spare.
16. Stanley - Sacriston - durham.
This service will be reduced to every 30 minutes using a pvr of 4. ( 5395- 98).
5399 - 5407. Used for the 78 given a new name with 5401 being in the brand with 5408 red.
Vehicles to form the x7 allocation will come from this service suggestion.
66. Metrocentre - all stops to metrocentre.
This service will operate a 10 minute frequency using 4x new double deck vehicles allowing 5391-94 to move to Peterlee for the x7.
Why fix things that aren't broken?
The Coast & Country services seem to manage fine as they do with Streetlites, and the Durham Diamond likewise with the Citaros (minus the reliability problems that they're plagued with). The latter services saw massive changes only last October to help with reliability issues with the Stanley-based services. The 8/78 saw new buses in May last year, with customers reaping the benefits that the Streetlites give them. Why remove the Streetlites as the stock for the 8, with passengers expecting the added luxuries that come with said stock, and put Citaros in their place? I hope you'd be able to source the investment for the Citaros to have their seats re-trimmed at the least, and be able to provide a business case to at least make the ''comfortable ride'' come close to the Streetlites for customers.
Why reduce the Stanley-Durham corridor to every 30 minutes? It's a busy section of the 16/16A, with standees at times. Why rebrand the 78? Why even separate the 8/78 from each other?
As for 5391-5394 on the X7. Goodness me.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 26 Jun 2016
In my opinion streetlites wouldnt cope on the X7,the route of the X7 would probably kill the engines i the end,and probably.reduce the life expectancy of the vehicles,not to mention that passengers would end up standing,personally just leave things the way they are
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 26 Jun 2016
(26 Jun 2016, 7:14 pm)R852 PRG Why fix things that aren't broken?
The Coast & Country services seem to manage fine as they do with Streetlites, and the Durham Diamond likewise with the Citaros (minus the reliability problems that they're plagued with). The latter services saw massive changes only last October to help with reliability issues with the Stanley-based services. The 8/78 saw new buses in May last year, with customers reaping the benefits that the Streetlites give them. Why remove the Streetlites as the stock for the 8, with passengers expecting the added luxuries that come with said stock, and put Citaros in their place? I hope you'd be able to source the investment for the Citaros to have their seats re-trimmed at the least, and be able to provide a business case to at least make the ''comfortable ride'' come close to the Streetlites for customers.
Why reduce the Stanley-Durham corridor to every 30 minutes? It's a busy section of the 16/16A, with standees at times. Why rebrand the 78? Why even separate the 8/78 from each other?
As for 5391-5394 on the X7. Goodness me.
Actually every 20 minutes.
Personaly 5391-94 would cope fine on the x7 as alike the x3,x4 streetlites do
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - South Tyne Lad - 26 Jun 2016
(26 Jun 2016, 9:46 pm)V514DFT In my opinion streetlites wouldnt cope on the X7,the route of the X7 would probably kill the engines i the end,and probably.reduce the life expectancy of the vehicles,not to mention that passengers would end up standing,personally just leave things the way they are
I agree with this and Marcus's post above.
The X7 wouldn't bring out the publicised fuel efficiency in the Streetlites, Non stop for most of the route would be torture to a small Eco-Voith and a small 4 Cylinder Cummins, One could argue that the 8/78 have non stop runs, Though at least they can get there breath back on the slow stop start sections etc
The Citaros are built to last, And would easily do out a few more years without problem. And a 10.7l engine does come in handy when on the fast sections
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Jimmi - 26 Jun 2016
(26 Jun 2016, 9:46 pm)V514DFT In my opinion streetlites wouldnt cope on the X7,the route of the X7 would probably kill the engines i the end,and probably.reduce the life expectancy of the vehicles,not to mention that passengers would end up standing,personally just leave things the way they areNot sure how the passengers would end up standing considering that they have more seats than the Citaro's currently used but I can't say I'd want a bus that goes a fair amount of the A19 that is limited to 50mph, it's bad enough going down the stretch the Arriva X21 serves on the EcoCitys. Mind people say about the StreetLite's going down the A19, but Arriva send their Sapphire X3/X4 along similar sorts of roads between Middlesbrough and Redcar and they seem to handle it fine, although they are a tad slow. Can't say I'd fancy one on the X7 though, mind I don't fancy having them for a short journey on the X66.
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Michael - 26 Jun 2016
(26 Jun 2016, 9:46 pm)V514DFT In my opinion streetlites wouldnt cope on the X7,the route of the X7 would probably kill the engines i the end,and probably.reduce the life expectancy of the vehicles,not to mention that passengers would end up standing,personally just leave things the way they are
I agree, the X7 is a route where buses, like Citaro's need to be allocated on a daily bases... Anything else i think they would struggle.
Not sure what GNE will go with when the Citaro's to a certain age although thats a while away..
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - V514DFT - 27 Jun 2016
(26 Jun 2016, 9:57 pm)Jimmi Not sure how the passengers would end up standing considering that they have more seats than the Citaro's currently used but I can't say I'd want a bus that goes a fair amount of the A19 that is limited to 50mph, it's bad enough going down the stretch the Arriva X21 serves on the EcoCitys. Mind people say about the StreetLite's going down the A19, but Arriva send their Sapphire X3/X4 along similar sorts of roads between Middlesbrough and Redcar and they seem to handle it fine, although they are a tad slow. Can't say I'd fancy one on the X7 though, mind I don't fancy having them for a short journey on the X66.
Didnt know that a streetlite had more seats than citaro,i just presumed passengers would stand with it being an 'X' service,in personal experience ive never used the X7,so apologies for that
RE: Go North East: Service Suggestions - Rapidsnap - 27 Jun 2016
No part of the A19 south of the tunnel to Thirsk is limited to 50mph