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RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 02 Sep 2013 55 - Heworth - Leam Lane Estate - Q.E. Hospital - Wrekenton - Harlow Green - Allerdene - Low Fell - Gateshead - Bensham Bank - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Fellside Park - Swalwell Estate - Metrocentre RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - BJ10VUS - 02 Sep 2013 (02 Sep 2013, 9:25 pm)Adam Malarkey 55 - Heworth - Leam Lane Estate - Q.E. Hospital - Wrekenton - Harlow Green - Allerdene - Low Fell - Gateshead - Bensham Bank - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Fellside Park - Swalwell Estate - Metrocentre Interesting. How about this? Heworth - Leam Lane Estate - Beacon Lough East Estate - QE Hospital - Hendon Road - Deckham - Gateshead - Bensham Bank - Lobley Hill - Whickham - Fellside Park - Swalwell Estate - Metrocentre RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 03 Sep 2013 (02 Sep 2013, 9:53 pm)BJ10VUS Interesting. How about this? Could have it as 55/55A, But I do like both Variations of the possible route RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 04 Sep 2013 Washington Service Revisions Red Arrows/Metrolink X1 - Easington Lane - Hetton-le-Hole - Houghton-le-Spring - Fence Houses - Shiney Row - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - Every 20 Minutes X2 - Houghton-le-Spring - Shiney Row - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Wrekenton - Gateshead - Newcastle - Every 20 Minutes M1 - Easington Lane - Hetton-le-Hole - Houghton-le-Spring - Fence Houses - Shiney Row - Fatfield - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Concord - Usworth - Heworth - Every 20 Minutes M1A - Houghton-le-Spring - Shiney Row - Fatfield - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Concord - Usworth - Heworth - Every 20 Minutes Washington Street Shuttle M2 - Birtley - Portobello - Ayton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord - Donwell - Heworth M3 - Birtley - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Ayton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord - Sulgrave - Heworth M4 - Washington Galleries - Glebe - Washington Village - Barmston Court - Barmston - Concord - Donwell - Heworth M5 - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Brady Square - Barmston - Concord - Sulgrave - Heworth Each Service would run Every 30 Minutes, so each Area has an Every 15 Minute Service, which in parts would be every 6/7 Minutes. Services W5/W6 would be Withdrawn. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 05 Sep 2013 Cross Tyne Xpress 2/X2 - Sunderland - Fulwell - Boldon - Hedworth - York Avenue - Jarrow - Tyne Tunnel - Percy Main - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle Normal Stopping Timings/Limited Stopping Xpress would be Faster Sunderland to Jarrow - 42 Mins Jarrow to Newcastle - 40 Mins Total Journey Time - 82 Mins 56 Timings Sunderland to Newcastle - 70 Mins X3 Timings Sunderland to Newcastle - 53 Mins X36 - Timings Sunderland to Newcastle - 57 Mins RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - MrFozz - 05 Sep 2013 M1 - Easington Lane - Hetton-le-Hole - Houghton-le-Spring - Fence Houses - Shiney Row - Fatfield - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Concord - Usworth - Heworth - Every 20 Minutes I like that idea Adam, but how about this M1 Easington Lane-Hetton-Houghton-Newbottle-Shiney Row-Fallowfield Way-Glebe-Galleries-Concord-Heworth every 20 minutes M1A Hetton-Rainton Bridge-Fencehouses-Bournmoor-Shiney Row-Penshaw-Fatfied-Fallowfield Way-Glebe-Galleries-Concord-Heworth every 20 minutes RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - CatsFast101 - 05 Sep 2013 (05 Sep 2013, 6:22 pm)fozzovmurton I like that idea Adam, but how about this An X1 via Rainton Bridge would be quite good however I think the 20 and 35 are more local services which I think would be more likely to pick up people along the route to Rainton Bridge, the X1 would have to be in addition to the 20 and 35. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 05 Sep 2013 Without having timetables in front of me to check how practical it is, I wonder if the 128 is worth sending into Chester le Street station as well as Durham. Obviously the bulk of the trains stop at Durham, with only the TPX calling at Chester, but if the timings were right, it may be of assistance towards passenger numbers come next Summer. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Adrian - 05 Sep 2013 (05 Sep 2013, 4:33 pm)Adam Malarkey Cross Tyne Xpress I think there's perhaps too much duplication there. The Percy Main - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle section of the route has a quite healthy coverage as it is. I'd like to say maybe an increase of frequency on the 9, but I always find I'm sitting on it by myself after I get to Jarrow Bus Station. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 05 Sep 2013 (05 Sep 2013, 8:50 pm)aureolin I think there's perhaps too much duplication there. The Percy Main - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle section of the route has a quite healthy coverage as it is. I'd like to say maybe an increase of frequency on the 9, but I always find I'm sitting on it by myself after I get to Jarrow Bus Station. I was thinking of attempting to create a New Link between Sunderland and Tyneside, although thinking about more now, I don't think it would be very well used by passengers. As for the 9 I think possibly extending to Whitley Bay as suggested last week could work. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 05 Sep 2013 (05 Sep 2013, 6:45 pm)CatsFast101 An X1 via Rainton Bridge would be quite good however I think the 20 and 35 are more local services which I think would be more likely to pick up people along the route to Rainton Bridge, the X1 would have to be in addition to the 20 and 35. I'm not keen on the Rainton Bridge Idea as it is very well served by the 20/35 and at Peak Times by the 921/922 and 923. The thinking behind my idea was to give passengers between Easington Lane and Shiney Row the best of both Services which they currently don't have. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Michael - 05 Sep 2013 (05 Sep 2013, 8:17 pm)Andreos1 Without having timetables in front of me to check how practical it is, I wonder if the 128 is worth sending into Chester le Street station as well as Durham. By VOSA today the 128 is getting withdrawn from November but your idea could work. Wonder if it will get re-launched as a diffrent service, wasnt it the B1 before it was the 128? RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 06 Sep 2013 Everyone seemed to of missed this one and skipped straight to the M1/X1 Idea, So I thought re-post it to gather a bit of feedback as it would of went unnoticed otherwise. Washington Street Shuttle M2 - Birtley - Portobello - Ayton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord - Donwell - Heworth M3 - Birtley - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Ayton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord - Sulgrave - Heworth M4 - Washington Galleries - Glebe - Washington Village - Barmston Court - Barmston - Concord - Donwell - Heworth M5 - Washington Galleries - Biddick - Brady Square - Barmston - Concord - Sulgrave - Heworth Each Service would run Every 30 Minutes, so each Area has an Every 15 Minute Service, which in parts would be every 6/7 Minutes. Services W5/W6 would be Withdrawn. Also they'd interwork, So for example the M2/M4 and M3/M5 would interwork together. Here a better example of the interworking M2 - Birtley to Heworth M4- Heworth to Washington M4 - Washington to Heworth M2 - Heworth to Birtley M2 - Birtley to Heworth Then onto an M4 again and vice versa throughout the day, hope that is easy to understand. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - MrFozz - 06 Sep 2013 Just been thinking about the East Durham buses... Revised 202 Peterlee-Easington-Hawthorn-Dalton Park-Woods Terrace-Barnes Road-Wellfield Road-Station Estate-Hetton-Moorsley-Belmont-Durham The Timing would be close to an hour give or take. Revised 265 Seaham-Dalton Park-Woods Terrace-Cornwall Estate-Burnip Road-Barnes Road-Murton Cenataph-Easington Lane-Elemore Lane-Pittington-Belmont-Durham... Just another crackpot suggestion from Mista Fozz RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Michael - 06 Sep 2013 (06 Sep 2013, 12:28 pm)Adam Malarkey Everyone seemed to of missed this one and skipped straight to the M1/X1 Idea, So I thought re-post it to gather a bit of feedback as it would of went unnoticed otherwise. good idea - its easier to understand to.. would u name it.. Washington Street Shuttle? RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 06 Sep 2013 (06 Sep 2013, 3:58 pm)fozzovmurton Just been thinking about the East Durham buses... When GNE took on the secured East Durham bus services commercially, there were a couple of conditions and one of the conditions were to keep the main key links on the bus services otherwise GNE would of lost the services to other bus operators, this is why the majority of the East Durham bus services had to be secured in the first place but by changing some services then the key links will wont be there. Nice to see suggestions on the East Durham Brand but will not happen for sometime, the 202 has to be on between Peterlee and Seaham but the section between Seaham and Sunderland did get withdrawn but the service got revised with the new 238 between Sunderland and Seaham almost similar route which provides the key link. even though theres a direct link on the X7 between Peterlee and Seaham but the X7 is a non stop express while the 202 and 238 is all stops. The link between South Hetton to Durham via Pittington has to remain aswell. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - MrFozz - 06 Sep 2013 (06 Sep 2013, 5:27 pm)cbma06 When GNE took on the secured East Durham bus services commercially, there were a couple of conditions and one of the conditions were to keep the main key links on the bus services otherwise GNE would of lost the services to other bus operators, this is why the majority of the East Durham bus services had to be secured in the first place but by changing some services then the key links will wont be there. Nice to see suggestions on the East Durham Brand but will not happen for sometime, the 202 has to be on between Peterlee and Seaham but the section between Seaham and Sunderland did get withdrawn but the service got revised with the new 238 between Sunderland and Seaham almost similar route which provides the key link. even though theres a direct link on the X7 between Peterlee and Seaham but the X7 is a non stop express while the 202 and 238 is all stops. The link between South Hetton to Durham via Pittington has to remain aswell. I never knew about conditions placed on the East Durham Brand... One thing they could do sometime would be to reinstate the link round Cornwall Estate, it was never heavily used, but people, mostly OAP's, but they did use it to goto Hetton and Durham RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 06 Sep 2013 (06 Sep 2013, 5:33 pm)fozzovmurton I never knew about conditions placed on the East Durham Brand... Since I live in the East Durham area, I would perfered if GNE could expand there East Durham bus services more and do a proper service between Sunderland and Hartlepool without going via the world, and push Arriva out of the area as a lot of people are not happy with Arriva service for quite sometime ago when there decided to cut services from housing estates forcing the passengers and elderly passengers to walk quite a distant to get to the bus stop. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 06 Sep 2013 (06 Sep 2013, 5:43 pm)citaro5284 If it is a commerical service, who would these conditions be set by? There were set by Durham County Council Transport Section. RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - cbma06 - 06 Sep 2013 (06 Sep 2013, 5:48 pm)citaro5284 Oh OK thanks for that. If they are not paying for it, I do not see why they should have a say in the service. I think its because the way the East Durham bus services were secured because there were not profitable for the bus company, that's why there were secured in the first place, but if GNE takes it on commercially because there were going to lose the secured contracts to run them with Arriva waiting in the wings itching to get the contract even though most of the services used to be ran by Arriva, and the council secured services were up for renewal at the same time and the council awarding more secured work to independent companies ie Scarlet Band. Anyway back on track, When GNE gets them commercially there was nothing stopping GNE making a mess of the service routes and times which passengers would complain and the council would have to secure the services again and this is why Durham Council put a clause into it so GNE wouldn't take the piss lol |