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Go North East: 2014/15 Financial Year Order Predictions - Malarkey - 05 Dec 2013
I thought i'd make this thread as no doubt the NEB Admins will would of moved all the Posts into a Separate Thread eventually anyway as they tend to do.
So here is my Predictions:
Scenario 1
ToonLink (14) Mercedes Citaro
Lime (14) Optare Versa
Centurion (9) Wright Streetlite
Fab 57 (5) Wright Streetlite
Quaylink (9) Mercedes Citaro K
DFDS (4) Wright Gemini 2
GNE Spares (25) Wright Gemini 2
GNE Spares (15) Optare Versa
Total 95
Scenario 2
Laser (6) Mercedes Citaro
Prince Bishops (12) Wright Gemini 2
Toonlink (14) Mercedes Citaro
Cats Fast (6) Mercedes Citaro
Lime (14) Optare Versa
Fab Fifty Seven (5) Wright Streetlite
Centurion (9) Wright Streetlite
Loop (8) Optare Versa
Highwayman (11) Optare Versa
Total 85
Scenario 3
DFDS Seaways (4) Wright Gemini 2
Quaylink (10) Mercedes Citaro K
Centurion (9) Wright Streetlite
Fab Fifty Seven (5) Wright Streetlite
Pulse (5) Wright Streetlite
Toonlink (14) Mercedes Citaro
Tyndale Links (7) Optare Solo SR
Lime (14) Optare Versa
East Durham (17) Optare Solo SR
Total 86
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 05 Dec 2013
Well i'll copy and paste mine over from the Go North East Latest and delete it from their...
I think
20/20A -Wright Gemini 2 - 12 PVR
8/78/78A - Citaros - 14 PVR
17/17A - Versa/Streetlite - 9 PVR
57 - Versa/Streetlite - 5 PVR
67/69- Versa/Streetlite -5 PVR
M2/M3/W5/W6 - Versa/Streetlite - 14 PVR?
North Tyne Links - Solo SR - 11 PVR
Think I'm at about right on numbers.. Including spares
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Adrian - 05 Dec 2013
I can't see the DFDS or Quaylink services getting nowt... DFDS serves a contractual purpose as it is, and the Quaylink does little but ferry a couple of pensioners around a day. Most times I use it I'm the only one on it.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Malarkey - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 4:24 pm)aureolin I can't see the DFDS or Quaylink services getting nowt... DFDS serves a contractual purpose as it is, and the Quaylink does little but ferry a couple of pensioners around a day. Most times I use it I'm the only one on it.
Isn't the Quaylink Contract up for Renewal Next Year and i'm sure there was talk a few months back about it getting a Citaro K on Demonstration, hence why I included it, DFDS is a similar Scenario with GNE looking to get rid of the ELC Loynes as they don't meet DDA Standards, so surely that would indicate an upgrade which I think it needs as hasn't had an upgrade for Years.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Rob - 05 Dec 2013
Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm)Rob Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
So cascades from 27 and 35's are going onto routes with older vehicles say like the 17, 57 etc?
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - CatsFast101 - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm)Rob Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
Interesting, I was hoping Prince Bishops before Laser/Crusader.
Personally I would of liked to seen:-
*Versas for Lime (14)
*B9's for Prince Bishops (12)
*Citaros/Versas for Highwayman (12)
*Solo SR for East Durham/W5 & W6 (20)
*StreetLites for Fab 57/Pulse (10)
*Versas for Centurion (10)
Speaking of Streetlites could some smaller 8.8 & 9.5 lengths be bought as MPD replacements? Things like 265 can get quite busy they could be a good option IMO.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm)Rob Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
I would say if these are getting new buses... nothing confirmed yet..
Laser and Crusader will be upgraded to B9's
Lime - Versa or Citaro
Streetshuttle - Versa?
X66 - not sure, i would say these would be new bendy's, Mercedes-Benz Citaro
I wanted the Prince bishops to get decker's =(
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:47 pm)CatsFast101 Interesting, I was hoping Prince Bishops before Laser/Crusader.
Personally I would of liked to seen:-
*Versas for Lime (14)
*B9's for Prince Bishops (12)
*Citaros/Versas for Highwayman (12)
*Solo SR for East Durham/W5 & W6 (20)
*StreetLites for Fab 57/Pulse (10)
*Versas for Centurion (10)
Speaking of Streetlites could some smaller 8.8 & 9.5 lengths be bought as MPD replacements? Things like 265 can get quite busy they could be a good option IMO.
You never know, Citaros from the Laser might go onto the ''Prince Bishops''? - Personally, looking at the loadings, I don't think the 20 really needs a decker, as from what I've seen they have been busy, but not busy enough. However, the peak loadings seem good, so maybe put the odd President/Vyking on the X20?
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Adrian - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)Tom You never know, Citaros from the Laser might go onto the ''Prince Bishops''? - Personally, looking at the loadings, I don't think the 20 really needs a decker, as from what I've seen they have been busy, but not busy enough. However, the peak loadings seem good, so maybe put the odd President/Vyking on the X20?
I used the 20 daily for a couple of years, and it was always packed? Houghton to Durham anyway... You were often educated on what a tinned sardine feels like on a morning or afternoon rush.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:56 pm)aureolin I used the 20 daily for a couple of years, and it was always packed? Houghton to Durham anyway... You were often educated on what a tinned sardine feels like on a morning or afternoon rush.
Thats why I said the peak loadings could do with a President or a Vyking
- Through the day, it's busier from HLS to Durham from what I've saw 
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Adrian - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:58 pm)Tom Thats why I said the peak loadings could do with a President or a Vyking
It kind of buggers you though.. I doubt customers would appreciate being promised these wonderful new buses (if they get Citaros for example), yet on their way to and from work be stuck with a 10+ year old spare Vyking or President..
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 6:03 pm)aureolin It kind of buggers you though.. I doubt customers would appreciate being promised these wonderful new buses (if they get Citaros for example), yet on their way to and from work be stuck with a 10+ year old spare Vyking or President..
I suppose you've got a point there! - Do you know if the X20 is the busiest? If so, that wouldn't be part of the ''Prince Bishops'' brand, and use a President?
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Adrian - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 6:06 pm)Tom I suppose you've got a point there! - Do you know if the X20 is the busiest? If so, that wouldn't be part of the ''Prince Bishops'' brand, and use a President?
Haven't used it for a while, but it used to be just as busy as the 20. Lots of people travelling from the colleges and uni in Durham I found.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 05 Dec 2013
If this order goes ahead for these routes to get new buses...
Lime, X66,Laser,Crusader,Washington Street Shuttle.. then it looks like the B10's will start getting withdrawn...=(
GNE have said they planning on ordering 80 buses between 2014/2015 on that PDF for the... Go North East Promotes Partnership Working.
What is the current PVR for the M2/M3/W5/W6?
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Tom - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 6:09 pm)aureolin Haven't used it for a while, but it used to be just as busy as the 20. Lots of people travelling from the colleges and uni in Durham I found.
Ah right, it seems a bit pointless having deckers for the route when it isn't really busy through the day Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Rob - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:18 pm)andreos1 So cascades from 27 and 35's are going onto routes with older vehicles say like the 17, 57 etc?
It is likely that there would be another level of cascades. Citaro to Omnicity or Solar routes which are in return cascaded to Northern based routes.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Rob - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)Michael I would say if these are getting new buses... nothing confirmed yet..
Laser and Crusader will be upgraded to B9's
Lime - Versa or Citaro
Streetshuttle - Versa?
X66 - not sure, i would say these would be new bendy's, Mercedes-Benz Citaro
I wanted the Prince bishops to get decker's =(
15 Citaro for the Lime prehaps? 13 required to match the PVR and 2 spare.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 6:06 pm)Tom I suppose you've got a point there! - Do you know if the X20 is the busiest? If so, that wouldn't be part of the ''Prince Bishops'' brand, and use a President?
Based purely on observation, the 20s are a funny service.
Between Houghton and Sunderland - it appears to be the bus of choice, with it being quicker than the 35's.
The 20a and x20 benefit from serving Rainton Bridge, although at times it can ride through without stopping.
It does have through passengers, but it appears the 20 has more travelling to/from Durham from the Houghton/Hall Lane/Gillas Lane area.
RE: 2014 GNE Bus Order Predictions - Michael - 05 Dec 2013
(05 Dec 2013, 6:26 pm)Rob 15 Citaro for the Lime prehaps? 13 required to match the PVR and 2 spare.
Maybe, they seem the better option, think Versa would struggle.
Can see each service having a couple of spares.