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RE: Economic505 - OrangeArrow49 - 20 Dec 2021
You have quoted me, but not actually said anything?
As both a bus enthusiast and bus user, I like to see changes to services. I don't think keeping everything completely the same is the best. Yes, keep established and well used services 22, 39/40, 62/63, but also create new services like a 64, 73 instead of 87 with some changes, run the 74. Day Riders are not always the best option, or even needed if only really using GNE, Day Rider Plus exploits some extra money for still using just Stagecoach. Buses just blend into the background when nothing about them changes, and the companies need to attract new passengers. After 26 years of so, I eventually gave up on Stagecoach and no matter what they do, they have lost my custom forever.
RE: Economic505 - MurdnunoC - 21 Dec 2021
(20 Dec 2021, 2:14 pm)OrangeArrow49 You have quoted me, but not actually said anything?
As both a bus enthusiast and bus user, I like to see changes to services. I don't think keeping everything completely the same is the best. Yes, keep established and well used services 22, 39/40, 62/63, but also create new services like a 64, 73 instead of 87 with some changes, run the 74. Day Riders are not always the best option, or even needed if only really using GNE, Day Rider Plus exploits some extra money for still using just Stagecoach. Buses just blend into the background when nothing about them changes, and the companies need to attract new passengers. After 26 years of so, I eventually gave up on Stagecoach and no matter what they do, they have lost my custom forever.
What did Stagecoach do that was so dastardly and heinous that they lost your custom forever?
RE: Economic505 - Thomas12 - 21 Dec 2021
(21 Dec 2021, 6:05 pm)MurdnunoC What did Stagecoach do that was so dastardly and heinous that they lost your custom forever?
Must be something beyond scandalous considering they’d rather use services which run a few times a day or less!!
RE: Economic505 - MurdnunoC - 21 Dec 2021
(21 Dec 2021, 6:15 pm)Thomas12 Must be something beyond scandalous considering they’d rather use services which run a few times a day or less!!
Not to mention the distances involved in walking when they consider their local services to be the 33/33a, 42a, 74, Q3 and 'X84/85 as mentioned in a post elsewhere on tbe forum
RE: Economic505 - Keeiajs - 21 Dec 2021
(21 Dec 2021, 6:05 pm)MurdnunoC What did Stagecoach do that was so dastardly and heinous that they lost your custom forever?They lost him jobs..(he mentioned it in another thread)
Economic505 - Economic505 - 21 Dec 2021
(20 Dec 2021, 2:14 pm)OrangeArrow49 You have quoted me, but not actually said anything?
As both a bus enthusiast and bus user, I like to see changes to services. I don't think keeping everything completely the same is the best. Yes, keep established and well used services 22, 39/40, 62/63, but also create new services like a 64, 73 instead of 87 with some changes, run the 74. Day Riders are not always the best option, or even needed if only really using GNE, Day Rider Plus exploits some extra money for still using just Stagecoach. Buses just blend into the background when nothing about them changes, and the companies need to attract new passengers. After 26 years of so, I eventually gave up on Stagecoach and no matter what they do, they have lost my custom forever.
Apologies OrangeArrow. Browser trouble . I didn’t mean to quote you.
RE: Economic505 - OrangeArrow49 - 01 Jan 2022
(21 Dec 2021, 6:39 pm)MurdnunoC
Not to mention the distances involved in walking when they consider their local services to be the 33/33a, 42a, 74, Q3 and 'X84/85 as mentioned in a post elsewhere on tbe forum
I'm fortunate to have so many local services. GNE 12/12A, 33/33A, 42A, 74, Q3, and X84/X85 (soon to be 684), GCT 84/84A, A-Line 792 and 941 and Phoenix Coaches 808. Better to walk and use reliable, pleasant buses imo.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 21 Jan 2022
Mercedes Sprinter on the 808 yesterday afternoon, swapped over with the M71.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 22 Jan 2022
Peugeot Boxer BD63EUW tracking as Mercedes Sprinter Cityline 932 was on the 808 yesterday. No sign of the 808 this morning, anyone know anything?
RE: Phoenix Coaches - omnicity4659 - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 12:30 pm)OrangeArrow49 Peugeot Boxer BD63EUW tracking as Mercedes Sprinter Cityline 932 was on the 808 yesterday. No sign of the 808 this morning, anyone know anything?The 808 hasn't tracked on a Saturday since the 8th, it may just be that they're using a minibus of some sort instead of a bus.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 22 Jan 2022
(22 Jan 2022, 1:03 pm)omnicity4659 The 808 hasn't tracked on a Saturday since the 8th, it may just be that they're using a minibus of some sort instead of a bus.
Good point, I hadn't realised. No word from Phoenix for why it didn't turn up (might have been early or broke down). So they put a different minibus on the 808 on Saturdays? Anyway to find out what bus/minibus was on?
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 23 Jan 2022
Apparently the 808 did run yesterday and it must have been very early. No idea why it doesn't track on Saturdays, but it was BGZ/931 allocated yesterday afternoon to Bellingham.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 28 Jan 2022
M71 cancelled.
No tracking on the 808 this morning. Ticket machine tracking on different vehicles recently.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 25 Feb 2022
Could the 808 be extended to merge with the 185 Haltwhistle to Birdoswald Roman Fort service? This could reduce the cost for Northumberland Council and introduce new links.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - peter - 25 Feb 2022
(25 Feb 2022, 9:06 pm)OrangeArrow49 Could the 808 be extended to merge with the 185 Haltwhistle to Birdoswald Roman Fort service? This could reduce the cost for Northumberland Council and introduce new links.
The 185? That's ridiculous - it's almost an hour journey from Otterburn to Haltwhistle/Birdoswald and they run at different times of day. No cost reduction there and hardly enough passengers to justify it.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - ASX_Terranova - 25 Feb 2022
(25 Feb 2022, 9:37 pm)peter The 185? That's ridiculous - it's almost an hour journey from Otterburn to Haltwhistle/Birdoswald and they run at different times of day. No cost reduction there and hardly enough passengers to justify it.
If you were forced to legally merge it with another service maybe the GNE 680 as it also serves bellingham, otherwise just leave it.
EDIT: Ironically they're both due at 10:10 at Bellingham Parkside Place
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 25 Feb 2022
(25 Feb 2022, 10:08 pm)ASX_Terranova If you were forced to legally merge it with another service maybe the GNE 680 as it also serves bellingham, otherwise just leave it.
EDIT: Ironically they're both due at 10:10 at Bellingham Parkside Place
The 808 only serves Bellingham on Saturdays.
I do wonder if any improvements could be made to Northumberland services like the local and infrequent links. On some afternoons the 808 does get nearly full, and I do wonder if promoting the service could attract new passengers. Recently the Saturday morning trip gained a new passenger who previously had no clue the service existed.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 26 Feb 2022
(26 Feb 2022, 11:37 am)Train8261 Bustimes.org
M71 Cancellation 27th March
As I said on 28th January, a few posts above. Read, then post. Forums work better with a read and respond approach rather than post, post, post of the same information. M71 is merging with the 42A to form the 342, as discussed already. The M71 was cancelled weeks ago, hence my post being 28th January.
RE: Phoenix Coaches - LVK 404L - 26 Feb 2022
(26 Feb 2022, 1:16 pm)OrangeArrow49 As I said on 28th January, a few posts above. Read, then post. Forums work better with a read and respond approach rather than post, post, post of the same information. M71 is merging with the 42A to form the 342, as discussed already. The M71 was cancelled weeks ago, hence my post being 28th January.With respect though, your post just states "M71 cancelled"
The other member has confirmed the cancellation date, therefore, a legitimate post
RE: Phoenix Coaches - OrangeArrow49 - 26 Feb 2022
(26 Feb 2022, 4:42 pm)ifm001 With respect though, your post just states "M71 cancelled"
The other member has confirmed the cancellation date, therefore, a legitimate post
Because the cancellation date is the same for all services, and was received on 20th January so a post on the 26th February is rather late. The M71 is a local service anyway so probably doesn't get much attention from most people on here. We don't need to confirm the 342 replaces the M71 on 27th March as really its obvious, one service ends when the other starts, a gap in service would be inconvenient and stupid really. Good point though, I'll be sure to specify the vital details in future to avoid someone else having to repeat old information 4 weeks later.