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Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Kuyoyo - 01 May 2014
![[Image: technical-release-rh-column-pic.jpg]](http://www.alexander-dennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/technical-release-rh-column-pic.jpg)
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/the-all-new-enviro400-designed-by-the-industry-for-the-industry/
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Dan - 01 May 2014
Wow! I hadn't expected that.
Looks like a cross between an E400, a Gemini and a Levante to me. Very stylish and very modern.
They look like completely different buses and it doesn't have an "Enviro" feel to me at all. So I've gone for the 'No Preference' option in the poll.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Malarkey - 01 May 2014
Very Nice, much than the previous Enviro 400 and obviously better in terms of design than the Gemini 3/StreetDeck or whatever you like to call it
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Tom - 01 May 2014
Stylish and modern! I love it
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Malarkey - 01 May 2014
(01 May 2014, 8:59 pm)AIG20 That looks absolutely fantastic!
I wonder whether the new air-conditioning systems will help prevent the vehicle from badly steaming up and becoming humid when it is raining outside, as that would be a huge benefit for passengers who suffer from asthma and other breathing difficulties.
The only down-side is that it will probably be very expensive when it starts getting produced.
According this Article there is already 400 Orders in the Pipeline from Go-Ahead, Stagecoach, Reading Transport and other UK operators, which would indicate it is reasonably priced.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/80m-flying-start-for-enviro400-as-adl-also-confirms-175m-export-wins/
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Kuyoyo - 01 May 2014
(01 May 2014, 9:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey According this Article there is already 400 Orders in the Pipeline from Go-Ahead, Stagecoach, Reading Transport and other UK operators, which would indicate it is reasonably priced.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/news/80m-flying-start-for-enviro400-as-adl-also-confirms-175m-export-wins/
Stagecoach in Manchester are due 29 in September (10401-29) as well as the 18 Volvo B5LHs for Dundee (13041-58).
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Adrian - 01 May 2014
Really smart looking bus, although I'm dying to hear what Davey Bowyer thinks of the 6.7l engine :p
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - L469 YVK - 10 May 2014
(01 May 2014, 9:20 pm)aureolin Really smart looking bus, although I'm dying to hear what Davey Bowyer thinks of the 6.7l engine :p
As I've said before, it depends upon what the bus is required for. I'll give you the TEN for example. It would cope on the 10A and 10B but not on the full 10 to Hexham.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - L469 YVK - 10 May 2014
I must say though that the bodywork looks very smart and much better than the Gemini 3. I think GNE could easily order some for the Crusader.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Michael - 10 May 2014
Wonder if we will get any in the North East
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Michael - 10 May 2014
(10 May 2014, 2:46 pm)AIG20 I guess Walkergate and Slatyford Depot might get some new buses in next years order, which may include these new model E400s to convert another service to double deck, or to displace many of the oldest (2007 batch) E400s elsewhere in the fleet - such as Stockton if they cannot find any other DDA required buses in time of the deadline.
Hopefully, it would be nice for the NE to get a decent investment again, like this year.
I think next year there could be a big investment for Newcastle, maybe more deckers - not really sure of the Newcastle passenger numbers for their services but is there any more routes which would require deckers?
Hopefully they get more gas buses to for Sunderland! =D
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - L469 YVK - 10 May 2014
I must say that I'm rather impressed with the new E400. Alot of thought and R&D has gone into it. ADL have made many improvements to the previous version. Despite me being sceptical about the Cummins 6.7, the weight reduction will aid the reliability of the engine and the fact that ADL have put alot more thought into the E400 in terms of reliability will improve the reliability too. The 6.7 in the VDL DB300's is actually alright due to the build and bodyweight. I would put it on par with the Volvo D9B with the weight reduction and better build / reliability in mind. It would be tempermental on a constant foot to the floor route like the TTX but on routes like the X18 and X93 with a mixture of driving conditions, the chassis, body and engine is a perfect combination.
I think that with the order announced by Go Ahead, we should start seeing them up here soon either on the 27 or with them on the X1 and the 27 getting the 14 B9TL's of the X1.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Dan - 10 May 2014
(10 May 2014, 7:05 pm)DaveyBowyer I must say that I'm rather impressed with the new E400. Alot of thought and R&D has gone into it. ADL have made many improvements to the previous version. Despite me being sceptical about the Cummins 6.7, the weight reduction will aid the reliability of the engine and the fact that ADL have put alot more thought into the E400 in terms of reliability will improve the reliability too. The 6.7 in the VDL DB300's is actually alright due to the build and bodyweight. I would put it on par with the Volvo D9B with the weight reduction and better build / reliability in mind. It would be tempermental on a constant foot to the floor route like the TTX but on routes like the X18 and X93 with a mixture of driving conditions, the chassis, body and engine is a perfect combination.
I think that with the order announced by Go Ahead, we should start seeing them up here soon either on the 27 or with them on the X1 and the 27 getting the 14 B9TL's of the X1.
Despite the chances of GNE ordering ADL products being rather slim, service X1 is more demanding than service 27... Would keep the Volvo B9TLs on there for that reason alone.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Kuyoyo - 10 May 2014
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/wp-content/files_mf/1398943981NewEnviro400specification.pdf
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/wp-content/files_mf/1398944137NewEnviro400brochure.pdf
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - L469 YVK - 10 May 2014
(10 May 2014, 7:17 pm)Dan Despite the chances of GNE ordering ADL products being rather slim, service X1 is more demanding than service 27... Would keep the Volvo B9TLs on there for that reason alone.
I would say that the 6.7l is actually an OK engine as long as it's built well and the bodywork doesn't weigh a tonne. The bodywork on the new E400 is lighter and despite the engine not beinng fantastic, if built and fitted well, it will do alright and last a while. The Pulsar Gemini 2 is lightweight and VDL / Wrightbus built the engine well into the Chassis. Hopefully, both the first (lighter body) and latter (well built with ADL looking to improve reliability) points will apply. The DB300's on the X10 and X11 aren't fantastic but they cope alright due to the light body and the engine being well built into the chassis. The same will apply for the new E400 with the recent improvements and I can safely say that it should be able to cope with interurban routes like the X21, X22 and GNE's X1. I'd definitely say though that the new E400 knocks socks off Volvo's and Wrightbus' offering for Euro 6. The B9TL is slightly more powerful but where reliability is concerned, there shouldn't be too much difference for anything upto interurban route types if the E400 is well looked after.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - S813 FVK - 10 May 2014
I had seen this last week and I have to say, enviro have gone and ruined it. However, I am not a person that judges a bus by its looks alone but i am going to predict that the new E400 will not be as reliable as its predecessor.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Richard Smiles - 11 May 2014
Apologies for this being slightly off topic, but I recently read that ADL will be launching a redesign of the E200 in October of this year.
See highlighted section on 2nd page of attached PDF
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - Michael - 11 May 2014
(11 May 2014, 7:48 am)Richard Smiles Apologies for this being slightly off topic, but I recently read that ADL will be launching a redesign of the E200 in October of this year.
See highlighted section on 2nd page of attached PDF
Cool, =D
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - L469 YVK - 11 May 2014
(10 May 2014, 10:49 pm)Robert I had seen this last week and I have to say, enviro have gone and ruined it. However, I am not a person that judges a bus by its looks alone but i am going to predict that the new E400 will not be as reliable as its predecessor.
Time well tell but I'd definitely say that ADL have put alot more thought into it. They've even pinpointed all of the reported faults of all the current ones that've been built since 2005 / 2006 so hopefully, it'll be a good bus. I must say that ADL's Euro 6 offfering is far better than Volvo's.
RE: Presenting...the ALL-NEW Alexander Dennis Enviro400 - R852 PRG - 11 May 2014
To me, the front looks almost like the bus version of a Caetano Levante coach, and the way the body is styled at the top front reminds me of an Enviro400.