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Michael



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13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm #81
(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

Thought it would be other way around and have more single deckers on order.

(13 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm)NewcastleOne X1/1a And X66 for Deckers and 93/94 or 97/97a for Singles

That's only 18 deckers out of the 33 (3 spares) = 21 

Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 6:47 pm by Michael.

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Michael
13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm #81

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

Thought it would be other way around and have more single deckers on order.

(13 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm)NewcastleOne X1/1a And X66 for Deckers and 93/94 or 97/97a for Singles

That's only 18 deckers out of the 33 (3 spares) = 21 

Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?


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13 Mar 2019, 6:54 pm #82
(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael Thought it would be other way around and have more single deckers on order.


That's only 18 deckers out of the 33 (3 spares) = 21 

Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?
Yes even the odd 69xx Gemini has appeared on it.
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 6:54 pm by NewcastleOne.
NewcastleOne
13 Mar 2019, 6:54 pm #82

(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael Thought it would be other way around and have more single deckers on order.


That's only 18 deckers out of the 33 (3 spares) = 21 

Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?
Yes even the odd 69xx Gemini has appeared on it.

L469 YVK



3,544
13 Mar 2019, 6:55 pm #83
33 deckers?

Doing my calculations, that could mean:

- 13x for Red Arrows (+2 spare) = 15
- 16x for Tyne Valley Ten (+2 spare) = 18
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 6:55 pm by L469 YVK.
L469 YVK
13 Mar 2019, 6:55 pm #83

33 deckers?

Doing my calculations, that could mean:

- 13x for Red Arrows (+2 spare) = 15
- 16x for Tyne Valley Ten (+2 spare) = 18

cbma06



2,669
13 Mar 2019, 7:02 pm #84
(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?


Dan, are any of these 44 new buses destined for EYMS?, just EYMS comes under GNE name.


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Edited 13 Mar 2019, 7:15 pm by cbma06.


cbma06
13 Mar 2019, 7:02 pm #84

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?


Dan, are any of these 44 new buses destined for EYMS?, just EYMS comes under GNE name.


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13 Mar 2019, 8:05 pm #85
I think the single decks for the 4
Jordan2104
13 Mar 2019, 8:05 pm #85

I think the single decks for the 4

S813 FVK



6,030
13 Mar 2019, 8:07 pm #86
(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

No - they would have to continue along Askew Road or any other suitable route.

Wouldn't affect journey times by that much, though presumably will be longer.
S813 FVK
13 Mar 2019, 8:07 pm #86

(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

No - they would have to continue along Askew Road or any other suitable route.

Wouldn't affect journey times by that much, though presumably will be longer.

GNE6312



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13 Mar 2019, 8:18 pm #87
(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

(13 Mar 2019, 8:07 pm)S813 FVK No - they would have to continue along Askew Road or any other suitable route.

Wouldn't affect journey times by that much, though presumably will be longer.

It goes the TVT/RK etc route to cuthbert street then up there then bensham bank (or atleast the driver of 6916 did when that apeared on December 21st). If thats the road you are on about.
GNE6312
13 Mar 2019, 8:18 pm #87

(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

(13 Mar 2019, 8:07 pm)S813 FVK No - they would have to continue along Askew Road or any other suitable route.

Wouldn't affect journey times by that much, though presumably will be longer.

It goes the TVT/RK etc route to cuthbert street then up there then bensham bank (or atleast the driver of 6916 did when that apeared on December 21st). If thats the road you are on about.

park5354



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13 Mar 2019, 8:44 pm #88
(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

11 ADL E200MMC for Connections 4, allowing the Conx4 Mercs to replace Green Arrow Scania (10) and the other as a replacement for 5319.
park5354
13 Mar 2019, 8:44 pm #88

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

11 ADL E200MMC for Connections 4, allowing the Conx4 Mercs to replace Green Arrow Scania (10) and the other as a replacement for 5319.

Malarkey



6,060
13 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm #89
x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4
Malarkey
13 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm #89

x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4

Michael



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13 Mar 2019, 9:19 pm #90
(13 Mar 2019, 8:44 pm)park5354 11 ADL E200MMC for Connections 4, allowing the Conx4 Mercs to replace Green Arrow Scania (10) and the other as a replacement for 5319.

Sounds right, hopefully if that happens the Green Arrow brand is dropped...

Would be great to see all the new buses be ADL Enviro 200/400MMC's. would be a massive alliance shift if they were to.


When are we expecting the first buses to be delivered?
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 9:31 pm by Michael.

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Michael
13 Mar 2019, 9:19 pm #90

(13 Mar 2019, 8:44 pm)park5354 11 ADL E200MMC for Connections 4, allowing the Conx4 Mercs to replace Green Arrow Scania (10) and the other as a replacement for 5319.

Sounds right, hopefully if that happens the Green Arrow brand is dropped...

Would be great to see all the new buses be ADL Enviro 200/400MMC's. would be a massive alliance shift if they were to.


When are we expecting the first buses to be delivered?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

L469 YVK



3,544
13 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm #91
(13 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm)Malarkey x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4

As much as we'd love to see something better than the StreetDecks on the Castles Express, I think they will stay put for the time being.

If GNE really wanted them off the Castles Express, they would've went with a mixed fleet allocation for the Cobalt Clippers (sending 7x refurbed B9TLs to Crook) and allocated them primarily to boards running late into the evening.
L469 YVK
13 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm #91

(13 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm)Malarkey x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4

As much as we'd love to see something better than the StreetDecks on the Castles Express, I think they will stay put for the time being.

If GNE really wanted them off the Castles Express, they would've went with a mixed fleet allocation for the Cobalt Clippers (sending 7x refurbed B9TLs to Crook) and allocated them primarily to boards running late into the evening.

Michael



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13 Mar 2019, 9:32 pm #92
(13 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm)L469 YVK As much as we'd love to see something better than the StreetDecks on the Castles Express, I think they will stay put for the time being.

If GNE really wanted them off the Castles Express, they would've went with a mixed fleet allocation for the Cobalt Clippers (sending 7x refurbed B9TLs to Crook) and allocated them primarily to boards running late into the evening.

Why Cobalt, could swap them with Deptfords B9's for the 56?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
13 Mar 2019, 9:32 pm #92

(13 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm)L469 YVK As much as we'd love to see something better than the StreetDecks on the Castles Express, I think they will stay put for the time being.

If GNE really wanted them off the Castles Express, they would've went with a mixed fleet allocation for the Cobalt Clippers (sending 7x refurbed B9TLs to Crook) and allocated them primarily to boards running late into the evening.

Why Cobalt, could swap them with Deptfords B9's for the 56?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Malarkey



6,060
13 Mar 2019, 9:37 pm #93
(13 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm)L469 YVK As much as we'd love to see something better than the StreetDecks on the Castles Express, I think they will stay put for the time being.

If GNE really wanted them off the Castles Express, they would've went with a mixed fleet allocation for the Cobalt Clippers (sending 7x refurbed B9TLs to Crook) and allocated them primarily to boards running late into the evening.

I think they'll take them off the X21 as they are poor reliability wise, they seem to spend more time at Chester-Le-Street than anywhere else which maybe the best place for them on the 13/14 & X25.

It would also help standardise the fleet at Chester also.
Malarkey
13 Mar 2019, 9:37 pm #93

(13 Mar 2019, 9:22 pm)L469 YVK As much as we'd love to see something better than the StreetDecks on the Castles Express, I think they will stay put for the time being.

If GNE really wanted them off the Castles Express, they would've went with a mixed fleet allocation for the Cobalt Clippers (sending 7x refurbed B9TLs to Crook) and allocated them primarily to boards running late into the evening.

I think they'll take them off the X21 as they are poor reliability wise, they seem to spend more time at Chester-Le-Street than anywhere else which maybe the best place for them on the 13/14 & X25.

It would also help standardise the fleet at Chester also.

13 Mar 2019, 10:34 pm #94
(13 Mar 2019, 9:32 pm)Michael Why Cobalt, could swap them with Deptfords B9's for the 56?

Nope 7x Streetdecks would go perfect on 310 PVR and that’s not the case for the 56. Not everything can go to Deptford.

(13 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm)Malarkey x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4

Can’t see them going on either Durham Diamond or Castle Express yet as both are sort of new 16 Regs may be 1 or 2 years then possibly as some reported the Durham Diamond has seen increasing passenger numbers. (Believe so)
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 10:35 pm by NewcastleOne.
NewcastleOne
13 Mar 2019, 10:34 pm #94

(13 Mar 2019, 9:32 pm)Michael Why Cobalt, could swap them with Deptfords B9's for the 56?

Nope 7x Streetdecks would go perfect on 310 PVR and that’s not the case for the 56. Not everything can go to Deptford.

(13 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm)Malarkey x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4

Can’t see them going on either Durham Diamond or Castle Express yet as both are sort of new 16 Regs may be 1 or 2 years then possibly as some reported the Durham Diamond has seen increasing passenger numbers. (Believe so)

JM03



505
13 Mar 2019, 10:42 pm #95
Are GNE starting to focus mainly on the enviros now?
JM03
13 Mar 2019, 10:42 pm #95

Are GNE starting to focus mainly on the enviros now?

Michael



19,140
13 Mar 2019, 10:44 pm #96
[quote="NewcastleOne" pid='226807' dateline='1552516444']

Nope 7x Streetdecks would go perfect on 310 PVR and that’s not the case for the 56. Not everything can go to Deptford.


Not everything can go to Percy Main either....

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Michael
13 Mar 2019, 10:44 pm #96

[quote="NewcastleOne" pid='226807' dateline='1552516444']

Nope 7x Streetdecks would go perfect on 310 PVR and that’s not the case for the 56. Not everything can go to Deptford.



Not everything can go to Percy Main either....


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

13 Mar 2019, 10:44 pm #97
Optare MetroDeckers for 56 / X1 / 327 (Be hints on for years that it's getting new buses).
Optare MetroCity (or Versa) for the 4
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 10:57 pm by Rapidsnap.

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Rapidsnap
13 Mar 2019, 10:44 pm #97

Optare MetroDeckers for 56 / X1 / 327 (Be hints on for years that it's getting new buses).
Optare MetroCity (or Versa) for the 4


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Michael



19,140
13 Mar 2019, 10:48 pm #98
(13 Mar 2019, 10:44 pm)Rapidsnap Optare MetroDeckers for 56 / X1 / 327 (Be hints on for years that it's getting new buses).
Optare MetroCity for the 4

Interesting move if true

Can't comment on performance of them, never been on them.. never had a chance to go on the demo's due to work...
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 10:50 pm by Michael.

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Michael
13 Mar 2019, 10:48 pm #98

(13 Mar 2019, 10:44 pm)Rapidsnap Optare MetroDeckers for 56 / X1 / 327 (Be hints on for years that it's getting new buses).
Optare MetroCity for the 4

Interesting move if true

Can't comment on performance of them, never been on them.. never had a chance to go on the demo's due to work...


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

13 Mar 2019, 10:59 pm #99
Well I have heard an unnamed Operator (in addition to those ordered by Metroline and Reading Buses) has ordered some Optare MetroDeckers.

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Rapidsnap
13 Mar 2019, 10:59 pm #99

Well I have heard an unnamed Operator (in addition to those ordered by Metroline and Reading Buses) has ordered some Optare MetroDeckers.


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Michael



19,140
13 Mar 2019, 11:02 pm #100
(13 Mar 2019, 10:59 pm)Rapidsnap Well I have heard an unnamed Operator (in addition to those ordered by Metroline and Reading Buses) has ordered some Optare MetroDeckers.

Hopefully Go North East then, need something different after all the Wright stuff they've had in the last few years!!
Edited 13 Mar 2019, 11:03 pm by Michael.

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Michael
13 Mar 2019, 11:02 pm #100

(13 Mar 2019, 10:59 pm)Rapidsnap Well I have heard an unnamed Operator (in addition to those ordered by Metroline and Reading Buses) has ordered some Optare MetroDeckers.

Hopefully Go North East then, need something different after all the Wright stuff they've had in the last few years!!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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