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01 May 2019, 12:36 pm #181
(01 May 2019, 11:37 am)omnicity4659 so much wibble

The pot of veg on the hob must be on full boil Tom, watch it doesn't boil over will you.
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RBZ 5459
01 May 2019, 12:36 pm #181

(01 May 2019, 11:37 am)omnicity4659 so much wibble

The pot of veg on the hob must be on full boil Tom, watch it doesn't boil over will you.



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MrBoyt



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01 May 2019, 10:13 pm #182
I already gave an enormous clue a couple of pages back but nobody twigged...
MrBoyt
01 May 2019, 10:13 pm #182

I already gave an enormous clue a couple of pages back but nobody twigged...

01 May 2019, 10:26 pm #183
(01 May 2019, 10:13 pm)MrBoyt I already gave an enormous clue a couple of pages back but nobody twigged...

streetdecks?
Arcticrossy92
01 May 2019, 10:26 pm #183

(01 May 2019, 10:13 pm)MrBoyt I already gave an enormous clue a couple of pages back but nobody twigged...

streetdecks?

02 May 2019, 1:02 pm #184
Am I the only one that wants the new buses to arrive in September purely for the new plates?

As much as I like the Streetdecks, I just hope they haven't ordered them for the Red Kite services. I think the suspension is way too firm for it to be comfortable on those roads. They're alright on the Angel and Castles Express because the roads are fairly decent (although still not the best)
streetdeckfan
02 May 2019, 1:02 pm #184

Am I the only one that wants the new buses to arrive in September purely for the new plates?

As much as I like the Streetdecks, I just hope they haven't ordered them for the Red Kite services. I think the suspension is way too firm for it to be comfortable on those roads. They're alright on the Angel and Castles Express because the roads are fairly decent (although still not the best)

05 May 2019, 7:01 pm #185
https://twitter.com/martijngne/status/11...36773?s=21

If it hasn’t already been noted the MD confirmed Enviro 200’s are coming later this year


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TEN 6083
05 May 2019, 7:01 pm #185

https://twitter.com/martijngne/status/11...36773?s=21

If it hasn’t already been noted the MD confirmed Enviro 200’s are coming later this year


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Michael



19,142
05 May 2019, 7:18 pm #186
Which services have a PVR of 3?, seems off just ordering 3 Enviro 400's, unless we are going to see a duel allocation?

Enviro 200MMC and Enviro 400MMC on 1 route

11 Single deckers + 3 double deckers on a route with 13 PVR with 1 spare?

X30 for the low bridge in dunston? With the others to the X31/X70/X71 in the new express design?
Edited 05 May 2019, 7:20 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 May 2019, 7:18 pm #186

Which services have a PVR of 3?, seems off just ordering 3 Enviro 400's, unless we are going to see a duel allocation?

Enviro 200MMC and Enviro 400MMC on 1 route

11 Single deckers + 3 double deckers on a route with 13 PVR with 1 spare?

X30 for the low bridge in dunston? With the others to the X31/X70/X71 in the new express design?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



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05 May 2019, 7:34 pm #187
(05 May 2019, 7:18 pm)Michael Which services have a PVR of 3?, seems off just ordering 3 Enviro 400's, unless we are going to see a duel allocation?

Enviro 200MMC and Enviro 400MMC on 1 route

11 Single deckers + 3 double deckers on a route with 13 PVR with 1 spare?

X30 for the low bridge in dunston? With the others to the X31/X70/X71 in the new express design?

Malarkey said the 327. Not convinced myself like. 
Wouldn't be surprised to see more changes ahead and what is now a larger PVR, being smaller? Or even a new service?!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 May 2019, 7:34 pm #187

(05 May 2019, 7:18 pm)Michael Which services have a PVR of 3?, seems off just ordering 3 Enviro 400's, unless we are going to see a duel allocation?

Enviro 200MMC and Enviro 400MMC on 1 route

11 Single deckers + 3 double deckers on a route with 13 PVR with 1 spare?

X30 for the low bridge in dunston? With the others to the X31/X70/X71 in the new express design?

Malarkey said the 327. Not convinced myself like. 
Wouldn't be surprised to see more changes ahead and what is now a larger PVR, being smaller? Or even a new service?!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

05 May 2019, 7:35 pm #188
(05 May 2019, 7:18 pm)Michael Which services have a PVR of 3?, seems off just ordering 3 Enviro 400's, unless we are going to see a duel allocation?

Enviro 200MMC and Enviro 400MMC on 1 route

11 Single deckers + 3 double deckers on a route with 13 PVR with 1 spare?

X30 for the low bridge in dunston? With the others to the X31/X70/X71 in the new express design?

Only ones I can see on the fleet list with a PVR of 3 with route branding is Sunderland Connect but doubt it would be that as it’s just had new buses not long ago.

I do have one theory that maybe the X66 could be upgraded to double deckers reducing the need for extra buses as more seats as they do get rather busy at times, just a thought.


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TEN 6083
05 May 2019, 7:35 pm #188

(05 May 2019, 7:18 pm)Michael Which services have a PVR of 3?, seems off just ordering 3 Enviro 400's, unless we are going to see a duel allocation?

Enviro 200MMC and Enviro 400MMC on 1 route

11 Single deckers + 3 double deckers on a route with 13 PVR with 1 spare?

X30 for the low bridge in dunston? With the others to the X31/X70/X71 in the new express design?

Only ones I can see on the fleet list with a PVR of 3 with route branding is Sunderland Connect but doubt it would be that as it’s just had new buses not long ago.

I do have one theory that maybe the X66 could be upgraded to double deckers reducing the need for extra buses as more seats as they do get rather busy at times, just a thought.


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S830OFT



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05 May 2019, 8:41 pm #189
The E400MMCs could be for the special events fleet, allowing them to be used on Private Hire opposed to the Volvo B5TLs.


S830OFT
05 May 2019, 8:41 pm #189

The E400MMCs could be for the special events fleet, allowing them to be used on Private Hire opposed to the Volvo B5TLs.



05 May 2019, 8:47 pm #190
I have a feeling they are for the 327. There was talk a while ago that they were due for new buses. As there’s only 3 I would suspect they could be to increase the service by 1 and replace the 2 Omnidekkas that don’t have luggage racks afaik 2 don’t actually have them unless that’s changed.
NewcastleOne
05 May 2019, 8:47 pm #190

I have a feeling they are for the 327. There was talk a while ago that they were due for new buses. As there’s only 3 I would suspect they could be to increase the service by 1 and replace the 2 Omnidekkas that don’t have luggage racks afaik 2 don’t actually have them unless that’s changed.

Michael



19,142
05 May 2019, 8:49 pm #191
(05 May 2019, 8:41 pm)S830OFT The E400MMCs could be for the special events fleet, allowing them to be used on Private Hire opposed to the Volvo B5TLs.

Honestly don't think they would buy new buses for the special events fleet, more likely that would get hand downs.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 May 2019, 8:49 pm #191

(05 May 2019, 8:41 pm)S830OFT The E400MMCs could be for the special events fleet, allowing them to be used on Private Hire opposed to the Volvo B5TLs.

Honestly don't think they would buy new buses for the special events fleet, more likely that would get hand downs.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Stanleyone

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06 May 2019, 5:14 am #192
There is a route that has a pvr of 3, maybe they might be for that particular route!!.
Stanleyone
06 May 2019, 5:14 am #192

There is a route that has a pvr of 3, maybe they might be for that particular route!!.

L469 YVK



3,544
06 May 2019, 8:42 am #193
(06 May 2019, 5:14 am)Stanleyone There is a route that has a pvr of 3, maybe they might be for that particular route!!.

Lets whittle it down then:
- X30 (if they're low height versions)
- 15/15A (is the route profitable enough?)
- 327 (maybe if funded by DFDS)
L469 YVK
06 May 2019, 8:42 am #193

(06 May 2019, 5:14 am)Stanleyone There is a route that has a pvr of 3, maybe they might be for that particular route!!.

Lets whittle it down then:
- X30 (if they're low height versions)
- 15/15A (is the route profitable enough?)
- 327 (maybe if funded by DFDS)

Michael



19,142
06 May 2019, 8:59 am #194
(06 May 2019, 8:42 am)L469 YVK Lets whittle it down then:
- X30 (if they're low height versions)
- 15/15A (is the route profitable enough?)
- 327 (maybe if funded by DFDS)

33/33A 
38/238 (when changes occur)

But i doubt its any of the above, small chance for the X30.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 May 2019, 8:59 am #194

(06 May 2019, 8:42 am)L469 YVK Lets whittle it down then:
- X30 (if they're low height versions)
- 15/15A (is the route profitable enough?)
- 327 (maybe if funded by DFDS)

33/33A 
38/238 (when changes occur)

But i doubt its any of the above, small chance for the X30.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

L469 YVK



3,544
06 May 2019, 9:13 am #195
(06 May 2019, 8:59 am)Michael 33/33A 
38/238 (when changes occur)

But i doubt its any of the above, small chance for the X30.

What are the loadings like on these services?
L469 YVK
06 May 2019, 9:13 am #195

(06 May 2019, 8:59 am)Michael 33/33A 
38/238 (when changes occur)

But i doubt its any of the above, small chance for the X30.

What are the loadings like on these services?

Michael



19,142
06 May 2019, 9:36 am #196
(06 May 2019, 9:13 am)L469 YVK What are the loadings like on these services?

Honestly not sure, never use them.

Streetdeck for the X31/X70/X71
Streetdeck for the 45/46/47
ADL E400MMC (low-height for the X30
ADL E200MMC for the 97

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 May 2019, 9:36 am #196

(06 May 2019, 9:13 am)L469 YVK What are the loadings like on these services?

Honestly not sure, never use them.

Streetdeck for the X31/X70/X71
Streetdeck for the 45/46/47
ADL E400MMC (low-height for the X30
ADL E200MMC for the 97


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,142
06 May 2019, 10:41 am #197
(06 May 2019, 9:13 am)L469 YVK What are the loadings like on these services?

With the 33/33A losing its Solo's, i wonder if Streetlites from the Prince Bishops will go on that route?, can anyone confirm what will go on the 33/33A from the 20th May?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
06 May 2019, 10:41 am #197

(06 May 2019, 9:13 am)L469 YVK What are the loadings like on these services?

With the 33/33A losing its Solo's, i wonder if Streetlites from the Prince Bishops will go on that route?, can anyone confirm what will go on the 33/33A from the 20th May?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

06 May 2019, 3:27 pm #198
(06 May 2019, 10:41 am)Michael With the 33/33A losing its Solo's, i wonder if Streetlites from the Prince Bishops will go on that route?, can anyone confirm what will go on the 33/33A from the 20th May?

Can't confirm as I don't know, but it would make complete sense to me to put those streetlites on the 33. Just have to see if any of them get repainted over the next couple of weeks.
deanmachine
06 May 2019, 3:27 pm #198

(06 May 2019, 10:41 am)Michael With the 33/33A losing its Solo's, i wonder if Streetlites from the Prince Bishops will go on that route?, can anyone confirm what will go on the 33/33A from the 20th May?

Can't confirm as I don't know, but it would make complete sense to me to put those streetlites on the 33. Just have to see if any of them get repainted over the next couple of weeks.

06 May 2019, 4:43 pm #199
(06 May 2019, 8:42 am)L469 YVK Lets whittle it down then:
- X30 (if they're low height versions)
- 15/15A (is the route profitable enough?)
- 327 (maybe if funded by DFDS)

(06 May 2019, 8:59 am)Michael 33/33A 
38/238 (when changes occur)

But i doubt its any of the above, small chance for the X30.

As I said earlier in the post, I do think they may be for the 15/15A, or a version of that service. Doesn't seem like standard practice to order such a small quantity of a new vehicle type, especially deckers, but with a new MD he may have a different approach.
Arcticrossy92
06 May 2019, 4:43 pm #199

(06 May 2019, 8:42 am)L469 YVK Lets whittle it down then:
- X30 (if they're low height versions)
- 15/15A (is the route profitable enough?)
- 327 (maybe if funded by DFDS)

(06 May 2019, 8:59 am)Michael 33/33A 
38/238 (when changes occur)

But i doubt its any of the above, small chance for the X30.

As I said earlier in the post, I do think they may be for the 15/15A, or a version of that service. Doesn't seem like standard practice to order such a small quantity of a new vehicle type, especially deckers, but with a new MD he may have a different approach.

L469 YVK



3,544
06 May 2019, 5:54 pm #200
If the low height version of the E400MMC is 4200mm (13ft 9in), would that type be able to safely clear the bridge in Dunston which is 14ft 3in?
L469 YVK
06 May 2019, 5:54 pm #200

If the low height version of the E400MMC is 4200mm (13ft 9in), would that type be able to safely clear the bridge in Dunston which is 14ft 3in?

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