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20 Jun 2019, 9:02 am #301

(20 Jun 2019, 8:53 am)RBZ 5459


Deptford (35), Chester-le-Street (13/14/25/X22) and Gateshead (93/94) appear to the be beneficiaries of the cascades on the back of the order.


Streetlite onto the 35 is probably a given. Saltwell Parks onto Loops, with Chester receiving Streetlite and B9s quite plausible too. Slotting in Omnicity and any retained Omnidekka not so easy.


Loops require 9 Vehicles while there are only 8 Saltwell Streetlites. Also the Electrics aren’t coming until next year And wasn’t it said all Solars would be withdrawn by end of the year?

NewcastleOne
20 Jun 2019, 9:02 am #301

(20 Jun 2019, 8:53 am)RBZ 5459


Deptford (35), Chester-le-Street (13/14/25/X22) and Gateshead (93/94) appear to the be beneficiaries of the cascades on the back of the order.


Streetlite onto the 35 is probably a given. Saltwell Parks onto Loops, with Chester receiving Streetlite and B9s quite plausible too. Slotting in Omnicity and any retained Omnidekka not so easy.


Loops require 9 Vehicles while there are only 8 Saltwell Streetlites. Also the Electrics aren’t coming until next year And wasn’t it said all Solars would be withdrawn by end of the year?

S830OFT



1,395
20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am #302

(20 Jun 2019, 9:02 am)NewcastleOne

Loops require 9 Vehicles while there are only 8 Saltwell Streetlites. Also the Electrics aren’t coming until next year And wasn’t it said all Solars would be withdrawn by end of the year?


Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?



S830OFT
20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am #302

(20 Jun 2019, 9:02 am)NewcastleOne

Loops require 9 Vehicles while there are only 8 Saltwell Streetlites. Also the Electrics aren’t coming until next year And wasn’t it said all Solars would be withdrawn by end of the year?


Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?



JP6004



1,833
20 Jun 2019, 9:12 am #303

(20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am)S830OFT

Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?



11 streetlites for the 4 and mercs to riverside for the loop and to replace 5319

JP6004
20 Jun 2019, 9:12 am #303

(20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am)S830OFT

Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?



11 streetlites for the 4 and mercs to riverside for the loop and to replace 5319

20 Jun 2019, 9:18 am #304

(20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am)S830OFT

Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?

That was what I was thinking.

NewcastleOne
20 Jun 2019, 9:18 am #304

(20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am)S830OFT

Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?

That was what I was thinking.

xpm



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20 Jun 2019, 9:25 am #305

(20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am)S830OFT

Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?



Or maybe for the X84/85?  The Mercs really aren't suited to this route (IMO)

xpm
20 Jun 2019, 9:25 am #305

(20 Jun 2019, 9:05 am)S830OFT

Could StreetLites off the Red Kite not go onto the Loop?



Or maybe for the X84/85?  The Mercs really aren't suited to this route (IMO)

20 Jun 2019, 9:35 am #306
(20 Jun 2019, 6:13 am)Dan


Link below:


http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/go-north-east-celebrates-clean-air-day-with-announcement-of-ps12m-investment-in-environmentally-friendly-buses-to-make-buses-even-better-and-help-dot-dot-dot-373083



For the avoidance of doubt, the order is as follows:

  • 28x StreetDeck for Consett - to upgrade services 15/15A (to be re-numbered X5/X15), services 45/46/47 (to be re-numbered services X45/X46/X47), service X31, and services X70/X71.
  • 2x StreetDeck for Crook - to supplement the increase in PVR from 19 May, and to replace the spare OmniDekka 6146.
  • 1x StreetDeck float - the UK's first 6-cylinder 7.7l engine model, to be trialled on all double-deck services in the region.
  • 3x ADL Enviro400MMC - to upgrade service X30
  • 11x ADL Enviro200MMC - to upgrade service 97.
  • 9x Yutong Electrics - to upgrade services 53/54.

  • The StreetDecks and ADL Enviro400s will all be to 'X-lines' specification.


    This is in addition to the 2x Mercedes Sprinters on order to operate a new contract on behalf of the NHS in Newcastle City Centre, commencing from September. The order for this was announced internally to staff earlier this week.

    So does this mean I might actually be able to catch a Streetdeck on the X21? I think in the past week I've been on one! It wouldn't be so bad if the Omnidekkas they put on had WiFi

    Id imagine the extra 2 for Crook would just be in a standard Xlines livery. But at least I got my wish of the Red Kites going the way of the dodo! Those eyes are just wrong!
    streetdeckfan
    20 Jun 2019, 9:35 am #306

    (20 Jun 2019, 6:13 am)Dan


    Link below:


    http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/go-north-east-celebrates-clean-air-day-with-announcement-of-ps12m-investment-in-environmentally-friendly-buses-to-make-buses-even-better-and-help-dot-dot-dot-373083



    For the avoidance of doubt, the order is as follows:

  • 28x StreetDeck for Consett - to upgrade services 15/15A (to be re-numbered X5/X15), services 45/46/47 (to be re-numbered services X45/X46/X47), service X31, and services X70/X71.
  • 2x StreetDeck for Crook - to supplement the increase in PVR from 19 May, and to replace the spare OmniDekka 6146.
  • 1x StreetDeck float - the UK's first 6-cylinder 7.7l engine model, to be trialled on all double-deck services in the region.
  • 3x ADL Enviro400MMC - to upgrade service X30
  • 11x ADL Enviro200MMC - to upgrade service 97.
  • 9x Yutong Electrics - to upgrade services 53/54.

  • The StreetDecks and ADL Enviro400s will all be to 'X-lines' specification.


    This is in addition to the 2x Mercedes Sprinters on order to operate a new contract on behalf of the NHS in Newcastle City Centre, commencing from September. The order for this was announced internally to staff earlier this week.

    So does this mean I might actually be able to catch a Streetdeck on the X21? I think in the past week I've been on one! It wouldn't be so bad if the Omnidekkas they put on had WiFi

    Id imagine the extra 2 for Crook would just be in a standard Xlines livery. But at least I got my wish of the Red Kites going the way of the dodo! Those eyes are just wrong!

    cbma06



    2,669
    20 Jun 2019, 9:40 am #307
    Will Omnidekkas not be better for the 93/94?


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    cbma06
    20 Jun 2019, 9:40 am #307

    Will Omnidekkas not be better for the 93/94?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk



    JP6004



    1,833
    20 Jun 2019, 9:50 am #308

    (20 Jun 2019, 9:12 am)JP6004


    11 streetlites for the 4 and mercs to riverside for the loop and to replace 5319



    Sorry posted without finishing


    Toonlink B9s for the 6

    6118-6121 refurbed and sent to Percy Main to cover 1 and 309/310

    Corporate B9s to Chester

    11 streetlite to washy for the 4

    11 citaros for loop and cover 5319

    Versas from chester and citaros from saltmeadows to deptford to replace L94

    JP6004
    20 Jun 2019, 9:50 am #308

    (20 Jun 2019, 9:12 am)JP6004


    11 streetlites for the 4 and mercs to riverside for the loop and to replace 5319



    Sorry posted without finishing


    Toonlink B9s for the 6

    6118-6121 refurbed and sent to Percy Main to cover 1 and 309/310

    Corporate B9s to Chester

    11 streetlite to washy for the 4

    11 citaros for loop and cover 5319

    Versas from chester and citaros from saltmeadows to deptford to replace L94

    Andreos1



    14,155
    20 Jun 2019, 10:27 am #309

    (20 Jun 2019, 9:40 am)cbma06 Will Omnidekkas not be better for the 93/94?


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    I can't see it myself. Not with the current frequency anyway.

    Does the East Gateshead partnership still exist? They always liked a bit of positive PR, so would be surprised to see cascades of older vehicles and a reduced frequency.

    Id expect to see new/newer vehicles and the frequency to be maintained.


    When the ECW Olympians were allocated to the 93/94, I think the frequency was a lot lower than now.

    A quick check of a timetable from that era might confirm either way.


    'Illegitimis non carborundum'
    Andreos1
    20 Jun 2019, 10:27 am #309

    (20 Jun 2019, 9:40 am)cbma06 Will Omnidekkas not be better for the 93/94?


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    I can't see it myself. Not with the current frequency anyway.

    Does the East Gateshead partnership still exist? They always liked a bit of positive PR, so would be surprised to see cascades of older vehicles and a reduced frequency.

    Id expect to see new/newer vehicles and the frequency to be maintained.


    When the ECW Olympians were allocated to the 93/94, I think the frequency was a lot lower than now.

    A quick check of a timetable from that era might confirm either way.


    'Illegitimis non carborundum'

    Michael



    19,145
    20 Jun 2019, 10:59 am #310
    (20 Jun 2019, 6:43 am)citaro5284



    Howay Michael.....I am disappointed in you haha


    At work Tongue

    Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
    Michael
    20 Jun 2019, 10:59 am #310

    (20 Jun 2019, 6:43 am)citaro5284



    Howay Michael.....I am disappointed in you haha


    At work Tongue


    Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

    L469 YVK



    3,544
    20 Jun 2019, 12:15 pm #311

    If GNE can source another Versa, then the ex RK(x11) & PB(x3) StreetLites would most likely end up on the 58 & 12/12A with the 58 Versas + another (weekday PVR) going on the Loop. That would also allow 1x spare StreetLite to cover a PVR of x13

    L469 YVK
    20 Jun 2019, 12:15 pm #311

    If GNE can source another Versa, then the ex RK(x11) & PB(x3) StreetLites would most likely end up on the 58 & 12/12A with the 58 Versas + another (weekday PVR) going on the Loop. That would also allow 1x spare StreetLite to cover a PVR of x13

    V514DFT



    2,225
    20 Jun 2019, 1:00 pm #312
    They love constantly upgrafing the Saltwell Park route

    Kind Regards
    Tez
    V514DFT
    20 Jun 2019, 1:00 pm #312

    They love constantly upgrafing the Saltwell Park route


    Kind Regards
    Tez

    Stanleyone

    6358

    451
    20 Jun 2019, 1:50 pm #313

    (20 Jun 2019, 12:15 pm)L469 YVK

    If GNE can source another Versa, then the ex RK(x11) & PB(x3) StreetLites would most likely end up on the 58 & 12/12A with the 58 Versas + another (weekday PVR) going on the Loop. That would also allow 1x spare StreetLite to cover a PVR of x13



    I personally can’t see the Mercs coming off the 12/12A

    Stanleyone
    20 Jun 2019, 1:50 pm #313

    (20 Jun 2019, 12:15 pm)L469 YVK

    If GNE can source another Versa, then the ex RK(x11) & PB(x3) StreetLites would most likely end up on the 58 & 12/12A with the 58 Versas + another (weekday PVR) going on the Loop. That would also allow 1x spare StreetLite to cover a PVR of x13



    I personally can’t see the Mercs coming off the 12/12A

    20 Jun 2019, 1:54 pm #314

    (20 Jun 2019, 1:00 pm)V514DFT They love constantly upgrafing the Saltwell Park route


    Because they make the money to justify it.

    deanmachine
    20 Jun 2019, 1:54 pm #314

    (20 Jun 2019, 1:00 pm)V514DFT They love constantly upgrafing the Saltwell Park route


    Because they make the money to justify it.

    S813 FVK



    6,030
    20 Jun 2019, 4:55 pm #315

    Personally would have chosen to order more than 3 E400s. They're forced to use a single decker or omnidekka as the spare for the X30 by not doing so.

    It's just a case of what do you prioritise - capacity or specification?

    Edited 20 Jun 2019, 4:55 pm by S813 FVK.
    S813 FVK
    20 Jun 2019, 4:55 pm #315

    Personally would have chosen to order more than 3 E400s. They're forced to use a single decker or omnidekka as the spare for the X30 by not doing so.

    It's just a case of what do you prioritise - capacity or specification?

    Venturego



    147
    20 Jun 2019, 5:01 pm #316
    "JP6004 Wrote: Toonlink B9s for the 6"

    Is the Toonlink Brand likely to survive just for 6/6A ? - Quite a small PVR for a branded route! , I'm assuming if X30/31, X70/71 become an X Lines brand, they will drop the Toonlink branding.
    Venturego
    20 Jun 2019, 5:01 pm #316

    "JP6004 Wrote: Toonlink B9s for the 6"

    Is the Toonlink Brand likely to survive just for 6/6A ? - Quite a small PVR for a branded route! , I'm assuming if X30/31, X70/71 become an X Lines brand, they will drop the Toonlink branding.

    JP6004



    1,833
    20 Jun 2019, 5:05 pm #317

    (20 Jun 2019, 5:01 pm)Venturego "JP6004 Wrote: Toonlink B9s for the 6"

    Is the Toonlink Brand likely to survive just for 6/6A ? - Quite a small PVR for a branded route! , I'm assuming if X30/31, X70/71 become an X Lines brand, they will drop the Toonlink branding.


    Just assuming they would keep it as the back end of the streetdecks are toonlink colours


    And the 6 does need extra capacity

    JP6004
    20 Jun 2019, 5:05 pm #317

    (20 Jun 2019, 5:01 pm)Venturego "JP6004 Wrote: Toonlink B9s for the 6"

    Is the Toonlink Brand likely to survive just for 6/6A ? - Quite a small PVR for a branded route! , I'm assuming if X30/31, X70/71 become an X Lines brand, they will drop the Toonlink branding.


    Just assuming they would keep it as the back end of the streetdecks are toonlink colours


    And the 6 does need extra capacity

    L469 YVK



    3,544
    20 Jun 2019, 5:36 pm #318
    With GNE ordering some ADL products this year, do you think it will be a warning sign for Wrightbus to improve their offerings?
    L469 YVK
    20 Jun 2019, 5:36 pm #318

    With GNE ordering some ADL products this year, do you think it will be a warning sign for Wrightbus to improve their offerings?

    Stanleyone

    6358

    451
    20 Jun 2019, 6:01 pm #319

    (20 Jun 2019, 5:01 pm)Venturego "JP6004 Wrote: Toonlink B9s for the 6"

    Is the Toonlink Brand likely to survive just for 6/6A ? - Quite a small PVR for a branded route! , I'm assuming if X30/31, X70/71 become an X Lines brand, they will drop the Toonlink branding.


    Might be wrong, but I doubt the toon link brand will survive. 5250 has been painted in corporate colours and the X30 gold/Green Xlines, would expect the X31/X70/X71 will be gold/Black Xlines. Might even get the X5/X15/X45/X46/X47 in black as well, though my first thought was red, but does red and gold go together?, and gold/blue for the X21?


    (20 Jun 2019, 5:36 pm)L469 YVK With GNE ordering some ADL products this year, do you think it will be a warning sign for Wrightbus to improve their offerings?


    I would say because MG doesn’t like the Streetlite, the E200 was a good option. Don’t think optare with the exception of the solo will get any orders moving forward. I do wonder what would operate the X30 in place of an E400 if 1is off the road, 6146 maybe?

    Edited 20 Jun 2019, 6:05 pm by Stanleyone.
    Stanleyone
    20 Jun 2019, 6:01 pm #319

    (20 Jun 2019, 5:01 pm)Venturego "JP6004 Wrote: Toonlink B9s for the 6"

    Is the Toonlink Brand likely to survive just for 6/6A ? - Quite a small PVR for a branded route! , I'm assuming if X30/31, X70/71 become an X Lines brand, they will drop the Toonlink branding.


    Might be wrong, but I doubt the toon link brand will survive. 5250 has been painted in corporate colours and the X30 gold/Green Xlines, would expect the X31/X70/X71 will be gold/Black Xlines. Might even get the X5/X15/X45/X46/X47 in black as well, though my first thought was red, but does red and gold go together?, and gold/blue for the X21?


    (20 Jun 2019, 5:36 pm)L469 YVK With GNE ordering some ADL products this year, do you think it will be a warning sign for Wrightbus to improve their offerings?


    I would say because MG doesn’t like the Streetlite, the E200 was a good option. Don’t think optare with the exception of the solo will get any orders moving forward. I do wonder what would operate the X30 in place of an E400 if 1is off the road, 6146 maybe?

    JP6004



    1,833
    20 Jun 2019, 6:13 pm #320

    (20 Jun 2019, 6:01 pm)Stanleyone


    Might be wrong, but I doubt the toon link brand will survive. 5250 has been painted in corporate colours and the X30 gold/Green Xlines, would expect the X31/X70/X71 will be gold/Black Xlines. Might even get the X5/X15/X45/X46/X47 in black as well, though my first thought was red, but does red and gold go together?, and gold/blue for the X21?



    Maybe saving red and gold for when X1 joins Xlines Tongue

    JP6004
    20 Jun 2019, 6:13 pm #320

    (20 Jun 2019, 6:01 pm)Stanleyone


    Might be wrong, but I doubt the toon link brand will survive. 5250 has been painted in corporate colours and the X30 gold/Green Xlines, would expect the X31/X70/X71 will be gold/Black Xlines. Might even get the X5/X15/X45/X46/X47 in black as well, though my first thought was red, but does red and gold go together?, and gold/blue for the X21?



    Maybe saving red and gold for when X1 joins Xlines Tongue

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