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tyresmoke



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24 Mar 2014, 7:43 pm #61
(24 Mar 2014, 7:35 pm)Tom What are Stagecoach going to use on the 15 and 35? The darts aren't Euro4, are they?

Likely awarded on a "best value" basis - probably with the Euro3 Darts

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24 Mar 2014, 7:43 pm #61

(24 Mar 2014, 7:35 pm)Tom What are Stagecoach going to use on the 15 and 35? The darts aren't Euro4, are they?

Likely awarded on a "best value" basis - probably with the Euro3 Darts


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24 Mar 2014, 7:48 pm #62
(24 Mar 2014, 6:27 pm)tyresmoke As far as I know - yes it does. Appears that the funding is jointly provided by Northumberland and Cumbria, of which Cumbria have pulled their part. So it looks very much like there will be no AD122 this summer, unless some funding can be found to provide a limited service.

There was something on Radio Newcastle tonight re the AD122, but didn't catch the full story.
Had a quick look on google, but nothing jumped out either way.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Mar 2014, 7:48 pm #62

(24 Mar 2014, 6:27 pm)tyresmoke As far as I know - yes it does. Appears that the funding is jointly provided by Northumberland and Cumbria, of which Cumbria have pulled their part. So it looks very much like there will be no AD122 this summer, unless some funding can be found to provide a limited service.

There was something on Radio Newcastle tonight re the AD122, but didn't catch the full story.
Had a quick look on google, but nothing jumped out either way.


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24 Mar 2014, 10:31 pm #63
(24 Mar 2014, 7:48 pm)Andreos Constantopolous There was something on Radio Newcastle tonight re the AD122, but didn't catch the full story.
Had a quick look on google, but nothing jumped out either way.

Cumbria Council ending it's support. Route under threat


http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/subsidy-cut...-1.1123940
gtom
24 Mar 2014, 10:31 pm #63

(24 Mar 2014, 7:48 pm)Andreos Constantopolous There was something on Radio Newcastle tonight re the AD122, but didn't catch the full story.
Had a quick look on google, but nothing jumped out either way.

Cumbria Council ending it's support. Route under threat


http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/subsidy-cut...-1.1123940

MurdnunoC



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24 Mar 2014, 11:11 pm #64
There was also something on Look North around half-an-hour ago stating that funding for the charity which supports Hadrian's Wall is being slashed. Nothing specifically mentioned about the AD122, but local businesses fear that their trade will suffer as a result.

Here is the supporting news article (courtesy of BBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26712711
Edited 24 Mar 2014, 11:12 pm by MurdnunoC.
MurdnunoC
24 Mar 2014, 11:11 pm #64

There was also something on Look North around half-an-hour ago stating that funding for the charity which supports Hadrian's Wall is being slashed. Nothing specifically mentioned about the AD122, but local businesses fear that their trade will suffer as a result.

Here is the supporting news article (courtesy of BBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-26712711

tyresmoke



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31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm #65
Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

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tyresmoke
31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm #65

Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)


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31 Mar 2014, 2:47 pm #66
(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

Very interesting, will be good to see who wins those.
Still got the 18 and 32/32A to be awarded too.
Tom
31 Mar 2014, 2:47 pm #66

(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

Very interesting, will be good to see who wins those.
Still got the 18 and 32/32A to be awarded too.

Kuyoyo



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31 Mar 2014, 3:47 pm #67
(31 Mar 2014, 2:47 pm)Tom Very interesting, will be good to see who wins those.
Still got the 18 and 32/32A to be awarded too.

Not awarded means the contracted journeys have remained commercially operated by Stagecoach.
Kuyoyo
31 Mar 2014, 3:47 pm #67

(31 Mar 2014, 2:47 pm)Tom Very interesting, will be good to see who wins those.
Still got the 18 and 32/32A to be awarded too.

Not awarded means the contracted journeys have remained commercially operated by Stagecoach.

Tom



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10 Apr 2014, 6:11 pm #68
(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

Heard anything more from this?
Tom
10 Apr 2014, 6:11 pm #68

(31 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm)tyresmoke Up for tender from July with Nexus are

37/73 Doxford Park - Coach Road - Sunderland
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 3
38C Sunderland - Tunstall Bank
Evening & Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 1
88 Lukes Lane - South Shields
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 4
96/96A Metrocentre - Lobley Hill
Mon-Sun evening - Euro 4 - PVR 1
135/136 Sunderland - Hylton Circulars
Mon-Sat evening, Sunday - Euro 4 - PVR 2
515/558 Heworth - Hebburn/Seaburn
Mon-Sun daytime (515 not Sun) - Euro 4 - PVR 2
643 Metrocentre - Watergate Estate
Mon-Sat daytime - Euro 4 - PVR 1
size restriction due to small estate roads

R3/R4/R6 Clara Vale - Blaydon - Rowlands Gill local services
Mon-Sun all day - Euro 4 - PVR 3

Plus around 40 miscellaneous workings boards (mainly schools & works services I understand)

Heard anything more from this?

tyresmoke



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10 Apr 2014, 7:54 pm #69
(10 Apr 2014, 6:11 pm)Tom Heard anything more from this?

Not yet Tom. Think the tender is still open for submissions at present? We'll probably find out closer to the time.

One I missed is the 79/79A, which has been awarded to Compass CT again.
TB503/504/529 have all gone to Eurocab too.

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tyresmoke
10 Apr 2014, 7:54 pm #69

(10 Apr 2014, 6:11 pm)Tom Heard anything more from this?

Not yet Tom. Think the tender is still open for submissions at present? We'll probably find out closer to the time.

One I missed is the 79/79A, which has been awarded to Compass CT again.
TB503/504/529 have all gone to Eurocab too.


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13 Apr 2014, 9:34 am #70
Just out of interest, who does everyone think will get the ''Quaylink'' contract next year?
Tom
13 Apr 2014, 9:34 am #70

Just out of interest, who does everyone think will get the ''Quaylink'' contract next year?

Michael



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13 Apr 2014, 9:40 am #71
(13 Apr 2014, 9:34 am)Tom Just out of interest, who does everyone think will get the ''Quaylink'' contract next year?

Not sure as it requires 9 buses and known NEXUS they will want Euro 6, not sure if independent companies could afford that.

I would think GNE will order new buses for it next year to keep it

I would like Stagecoach or Arriva to get it but no sure what they will run on it
Edited 13 Apr 2014, 9:46 am by Michael.

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Michael
13 Apr 2014, 9:40 am #71

(13 Apr 2014, 9:34 am)Tom Just out of interest, who does everyone think will get the ''Quaylink'' contract next year?

Not sure as it requires 9 buses and known NEXUS they will want Euro 6, not sure if independent companies could afford that.

I would think GNE will order new buses for it next year to keep it

I would like Stagecoach or Arriva to get it but no sure what they will run on it


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Tom



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13 Apr 2014, 9:44 am #72
(13 Apr 2014, 9:40 am)Michael Not sure as it requires 9 buses and known NEXUS they will want Euro 6, not sure if independent companies could afford that.

I would think GNE will order new buses for it next year to keep it

I would like Stagecoach or Arriva to get it but no sire what they will run on it

If Arriva got it they'd probably buy new Versas or Streetlites. I'd like to see Arriva get it though this time.
Tom
13 Apr 2014, 9:44 am #72

(13 Apr 2014, 9:40 am)Michael Not sure as it requires 9 buses and known NEXUS they will want Euro 6, not sure if independent companies could afford that.

I would think GNE will order new buses for it next year to keep it

I would like Stagecoach or Arriva to get it but no sire what they will run on it

If Arriva got it they'd probably buy new Versas or Streetlites. I'd like to see Arriva get it though this time.

tyresmoke



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13 Apr 2014, 9:45 am #73
(13 Apr 2014, 9:44 am)Tom If Arriva got it they'd probably buy new Versas or Streetlites. I'd like to see Arriva get it though this time.

It would be a big contract to sustain Jesmond and yeah I reckon they would probably buy Euro6 Streetlites. Possibly even the electric ones like in Milton Keynes!

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tyresmoke
13 Apr 2014, 9:45 am #73

(13 Apr 2014, 9:44 am)Tom If Arriva got it they'd probably buy new Versas or Streetlites. I'd like to see Arriva get it though this time.

It would be a big contract to sustain Jesmond and yeah I reckon they would probably buy Euro6 Streetlites. Possibly even the electric ones like in Milton Keynes!


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13 Apr 2014, 9:47 am #74
(13 Apr 2014, 9:45 am)tyresmoke It would be a big contract to sustain Jesmond and yeah I reckon they would probably buy Euro6 Streetlites. Possibly even the electric ones like in Milton Keynes!

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'd like to see some Versas in the fleet though, I'd have liked to see them on the 306 rather than Streetlites but hey. Arriva are defiantly the ones I want to get it this time though, as the two other big companies have ran it. For some reason, I think there might be some changes to the Quaylink this year. I reckon the Q2 will be extended to Walker Riverside.
Edited 13 Apr 2014, 9:53 am by Tom.
Tom
13 Apr 2014, 9:47 am #74

(13 Apr 2014, 9:45 am)tyresmoke It would be a big contract to sustain Jesmond and yeah I reckon they would probably buy Euro6 Streetlites. Possibly even the electric ones like in Milton Keynes!

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'd like to see some Versas in the fleet though, I'd have liked to see them on the 306 rather than Streetlites but hey. Arriva are defiantly the ones I want to get it this time though, as the two other big companies have ran it. For some reason, I think there might be some changes to the Quaylink this year. I reckon the Q2 will be extended to Walker Riverside.

tyresmoke



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17 Apr 2014, 9:13 am #75
Just a quick note to say the ITT for Durham P&R went out this morning, they want 10 Euro6 vehicles this time round. Alongside all of the other contract requirements.

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tyresmoke
17 Apr 2014, 9:13 am #75

Just a quick note to say the ITT for Durham P&R went out this morning, they want 10 Euro6 vehicles this time round. Alongside all of the other contract requirements.


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17 Apr 2014, 9:22 am #76
(17 Apr 2014, 9:13 am)tyresmoke Just a quick note to say the ITT for Durham P&R went out this morning, they want 10 Euro6 vehicles this time round. Alongside all of the other contract requirements.

When's it up for renewal, in terms of a month?
Dan
17 Apr 2014, 9:22 am #76

(17 Apr 2014, 9:13 am)tyresmoke Just a quick note to say the ITT for Durham P&R went out this morning, they want 10 Euro6 vehicles this time round. Alongside all of the other contract requirements.

When's it up for renewal, in terms of a month?

tyresmoke



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17 Apr 2014, 9:32 am #77
(17 Apr 2014, 9:22 am)Dan When's it up for renewal, in terms of a month?

Starts 27th October iirc

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tyresmoke
17 Apr 2014, 9:32 am #77

(17 Apr 2014, 9:22 am)Dan When's it up for renewal, in terms of a month?

Starts 27th October iirc


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17 Apr 2014, 9:52 am #78
(17 Apr 2014, 9:32 am)tyresmoke Starts 27th October iirc

Ah, nice. Still plenty of time for me to get some photos of the current allocation... Tongue
Dan
17 Apr 2014, 9:52 am #78

(17 Apr 2014, 9:32 am)tyresmoke Starts 27th October iirc

Ah, nice. Still plenty of time for me to get some photos of the current allocation... Tongue

Tom



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17 Apr 2014, 5:20 pm #79
I'm not sure who I think will get the contract - Possibly Arriva though, using 10 X Electric Streetlite. I'd like to see them use those on the Quaylink if they got the contract too.
Tom
17 Apr 2014, 5:20 pm #79

I'm not sure who I think will get the contract - Possibly Arriva though, using 10 X Electric Streetlite. I'd like to see them use those on the Quaylink if they got the contract too.

17 Apr 2014, 6:09 pm #80
(17 Apr 2014, 5:20 pm)Tom I'm not sure who I think will get the contract - Possibly Arriva though, using 10 X Electric Streetlite. I'd like to see them use those on the Quaylink if they got the contract too.

Then all 3 main operators will have a go on it. When you think about it, wouldn't that mean a lot of jobs with Go North East would be lost? Would Arriva use their own drivers? Or, would they be transferred to Arriva? (like they did with the Hexham swaps?)
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17 Apr 2014, 6:09 pm #80

(17 Apr 2014, 5:20 pm)Tom I'm not sure who I think will get the contract - Possibly Arriva though, using 10 X Electric Streetlite. I'd like to see them use those on the Quaylink if they got the contract too.

Then all 3 main operators will have a go on it. When you think about it, wouldn't that mean a lot of jobs with Go North East would be lost? Would Arriva use their own drivers? Or, would they be transferred to Arriva? (like they did with the Hexham swaps?)

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