North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
North East BSIP: £804 Million Pound Plan For North East Buses
(13 Jul 2023, 7:05 am)busmanT £73.5m for capital spending, £90m for revenue spending between now and March 2025 - a significant sum.
According to the publicly available papers for the Joint Transport Committee, £17m is being spent on the BSIP fares.
(13 Jul 2023, 7:05 am)busmanT £73.5m for capital spending, £90m for revenue spending between now and March 2025 - a significant sum.
According to the publicly available papers for the Joint Transport Committee, £17m is being spent on the BSIP fares.
(13 Jul 2023, 7:05 am)busmanT £73.5m for capital spending, £90m for revenue spending between now and March 2025 - a significant sum.
According to the publicly available papers for the Joint Transport Committee, £17m is being spent on the BSIP fares.
(13 Jul 2023, 7:05 am)busmanT £73.5m for capital spending, £90m for revenue spending between now and March 2025 - a significant sum.
According to the publicly available papers for the Joint Transport Committee, £17m is being spent on the BSIP fares.
Cheaper Metro and bus fares agreed in £50m cash injection for North East public transport
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-27348653
(19 Jul 2023, 7:14 am)citaro5284 Cheaper Metro and bus fares agreed in £50m cash injection for North East public transport
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-27348653
(19 Jul 2023, 7:14 am)citaro5284 Cheaper Metro and bus fares agreed in £50m cash injection for North East public transport
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...d-27348653
(19 Jul 2023, 11:22 am)Busu284 Hahaha yes. Screw the £9.10 & £12.70 tickets. Way cheaper now
(19 Jul 2023, 11:22 am)Busu284 Hahaha yes. Screw the £9.10 & £12.70 tickets. Way cheaper now
(19 Jul 2023, 12:09 pm)citaro5284 Press release now from TNE....
https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/la...utWpiXZdrY
(19 Jul 2023, 12:09 pm)citaro5284 Press release now from TNE....
https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/la...utWpiXZdrY
Quote:A region-wide multi-operator day ticket will be introduced at £6.80 for unlimited travel by bus, Metro and Ferry across all of Tyne and Wear, Northumberland and Durham. Currently the existing equivalent – the North East Explorer ticket costs £12.70 meaning passengers will save 46% on this fare alone.
Quote:A region-wide multi-operator day ticket will be introduced at £6.80 for unlimited travel by bus, Metro and Ferry across all of Tyne and Wear, Northumberland and Durham. Currently the existing equivalent – the North East Explorer ticket costs £12.70 meaning passengers will save 46% on this fare alone.
(19 Jul 2023, 1:49 pm)Drifter60 A little bit disingenuous that statement, whilst I welcome this particular ticket which will mean better options for those needing two operators or just even the flexibility to use another operator if they’re disruptions etc. The explorer ticket covers a lot more areas, namely the Tees Valley region + the 685 to Carlisle & a chunk of North Yorkshire too. So yes 46% saving, but you’re not getting as much for it.
I do welcome the plans but I can’t help but feel like it’s geographical politics to not include the Tees Valley. When there’s arguably a lot of cross boundary travel.
(19 Jul 2023, 12:22 pm)Andreos1 A sticking plaster to cover a gid big wound, that operators don't actually seem either to have the will to fix or actually have the capability of actually fixing.
(19 Jul 2023, 1:49 pm)Drifter60 A little bit disingenuous that statement, whilst I welcome this particular ticket which will mean better options for those needing two operators or just even the flexibility to use another operator if they’re disruptions etc. The explorer ticket covers a lot more areas, namely the Tees Valley region + the 685 to Carlisle & a chunk of North Yorkshire too. So yes 46% saving, but you’re not getting as much for it.
I do welcome the plans but I can’t help but feel like it’s geographical politics to not include the Tees Valley. When there’s arguably a lot of cross boundary travel.
(19 Jul 2023, 12:22 pm)Andreos1 A sticking plaster to cover a gid big wound, that operators don't actually seem either to have the will to fix or actually have the capability of actually fixing.
(19 Jul 2023, 2:26 pm)busmanT Tees Valley is a different combined authority which gets its own funding stream (BSIP+) and can make its own decisions on how to use the money.
For those who want to travel across the boundary between the “North East Combined Authority” and the “Tees Valley Combined Authority” there are still operators own tickets and Explorer.
If the new fares attract new passengers then the sticking plaster won’t need to be as big.
(19 Jul 2023, 2:26 pm)busmanT Tees Valley is a different combined authority which gets its own funding stream (BSIP+) and can make its own decisions on how to use the money.
For those who want to travel across the boundary between the “North East Combined Authority” and the “Tees Valley Combined Authority” there are still operators own tickets and Explorer.
If the new fares attract new passengers then the sticking plaster won’t need to be as big.
‘Sunderland’s worst roundabout’ to be replaced with new traffic light system
A roundabout dubbed ‘the worst in Sunderland’ is to be replaced with a new traffic light system. Work is scheduled to begin in spring 2025.
However, a North East Joint Transport Committee, at which Sunderland City Council was represented by its leader Cllr Graeme Miller, agreed on July 18 to allocate £33.2million of funding from the Government to upgrade traffic signals and key junctions across the region as part of the Bus Service Improvement Plan.
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/peop...em-4245443
About time!
It was lethal when I went to Broadway Juniors - a lass in my year was knocked over and ended up breaking her leg in 3 places, that was in 2000... seen many close calls during rush hour too.
(07 Aug 2023, 2:58 pm)Michael ‘Sunderland’s worst roundabout’ to be replaced with new traffic light system
A roundabout dubbed ‘the worst in Sunderland’ is to be replaced with a new traffic light system. Work is scheduled to begin in spring 2025.
However, a North East Joint Transport Committee, at which Sunderland City Council was represented by its leader Cllr Graeme Miller, agreed on July 18 to allocate £33.2million of funding from the Government to upgrade traffic signals and key junctions across the region as part of the Bus Service Improvement Plan.
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/peop...em-4245443
About time!
It was lethal when I went to Broadway Juniors - a lass in my year was knocked over and ended up breaking her leg in 3 places, that was in 2000... seen many close calls during rush hour too.
(07 Aug 2023, 2:58 pm)Michael ‘Sunderland’s worst roundabout’ to be replaced with new traffic light system
A roundabout dubbed ‘the worst in Sunderland’ is to be replaced with a new traffic light system. Work is scheduled to begin in spring 2025.
However, a North East Joint Transport Committee, at which Sunderland City Council was represented by its leader Cllr Graeme Miller, agreed on July 18 to allocate £33.2million of funding from the Government to upgrade traffic signals and key junctions across the region as part of the Bus Service Improvement Plan.
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/peop...em-4245443
About time!
It was lethal when I went to Broadway Juniors - a lass in my year was knocked over and ended up breaking her leg in 3 places, that was in 2000... seen many close calls during rush hour too.
(07 Aug 2023, 3:20 pm)54APhotography In all fairness the traffic chaos on Chester Road is more likely to be caused by the roundabout at the bottom of the hill. But any work to change to a Sandhills type layout should be replicated there, and at the worst of all Bridge Street farce leading onto the Wearmouth Bridge. Miller and Co have their heads up their arses when it comes to traffic. That's why the 'strategic' corridor ends at the Bridge Street roundabout ...
(07 Aug 2023, 3:20 pm)54APhotography In all fairness the traffic chaos on Chester Road is more likely to be caused by the roundabout at the bottom of the hill. But any work to change to a Sandhills type layout should be replicated there, and at the worst of all Bridge Street farce leading onto the Wearmouth Bridge. Miller and Co have their heads up their arses when it comes to traffic. That's why the 'strategic' corridor ends at the Bridge Street roundabout ...
(07 Aug 2023, 3:31 pm)Michael Ye, that's where the work is happening, I think it was made worse when they added more lanes in and didn't change the roundabout at all, hopefully this helps but I doubt it... work starts in Spring 2025 - can imagine, its going to be chaos... massive diversions for the buses too no doubt.
Bridge street has always been bad too, even before the road was changed.
(07 Aug 2023, 3:31 pm)Michael Ye, that's where the work is happening, I think it was made worse when they added more lanes in and didn't change the roundabout at all, hopefully this helps but I doubt it... work starts in Spring 2025 - can imagine, its going to be chaos... massive diversions for the buses too no doubt.
Bridge street has always been bad too, even before the road was changed.
Traffic lights there will not make things better, I can say that with pretty much confidence.
There's way too many flows for them to work as there's roughly 6 sequences.
Another one for the local 'experts' which have improved places such as South Gosforth, Gosforth, Heworth, Sandy Lane, Findus Roundabout, Four Lane Ends with there fully freeflowing traffic at all times now. Not sure what this has got anything to do with buses either. Sounds like they're topping up their highways budget.
(07 Aug 2023, 3:37 pm)54APhotography Indeed, the biggest factor, which councils fail to react to is cars on the road. A fix five years ago is now overwhelmed. Bridge Street is a disaster for public transport, council should ban all cars and taxis from that area, force them to use alternate routes, yes that puts pressure elsewhere, but sometimes only one bus can get out in the stupidly short cycle, and the right turn off St. Mary's is often fouling the path.
Suggestions of X24 using Kyall Road and Hylton Road probably won't happen so expect big delays on that route
(07 Aug 2023, 3:37 pm)54APhotography Indeed, the biggest factor, which councils fail to react to is cars on the road. A fix five years ago is now overwhelmed. Bridge Street is a disaster for public transport, council should ban all cars and taxis from that area, force them to use alternate routes, yes that puts pressure elsewhere, but sometimes only one bus can get out in the stupidly short cycle, and the right turn off St. Mary's is often fouling the path.
Suggestions of X24 using Kyall Road and Hylton Road probably won't happen so expect big delays on that route
(07 Aug 2023, 4:03 pm)Michael Its going to be a nightmare - massive bus delays unless they somehow work around the actual work to do "normal routes" but don't think that's possible due to junction set ups.Aye indeed. Think SCNE could use this as a measure for the X24, sending it alternate routes to Hastings Hill could be a good pointer as to where more income can be made. Despite being that fastest and most useful in terms on onward travel, at times the X24 is down to single figures inside... Observing stops on diversion routes often throw up interesting figures
Hopefully the bus companies are told in advance (like 4 months) to get diversions sorted before they officially start work but known the council, it'll be a week before.........
(07 Aug 2023, 4:03 pm)Michael Its going to be a nightmare - massive bus delays unless they somehow work around the actual work to do "normal routes" but don't think that's possible due to junction set ups.Aye indeed. Think SCNE could use this as a measure for the X24, sending it alternate routes to Hastings Hill could be a good pointer as to where more income can be made. Despite being that fastest and most useful in terms on onward travel, at times the X24 is down to single figures inside... Observing stops on diversion routes often throw up interesting figures
Hopefully the bus companies are told in advance (like 4 months) to get diversions sorted before they officially start work but known the council, it'll be a week before.........
(07 Aug 2023, 3:37 pm)54APhotography Indeed, the biggest factor, which councils fail to react to is cars on the road. A fix five years ago is now overwhelmed. Bridge Street is a disaster for public transport, council should ban all cars and taxis from that area, force them to use alternate routes, yes that puts pressure elsewhere, but sometimes only one bus can get out in the stupidly short cycle, and the right turn off St. Mary's is often fouling the path.The trouble with the roundabout onto the bridge is twits who don't know what a yellow box is.
Suggestions of X24 using Kyall Road and Hylton Road probably won't happen so expect big delays on that route
(07 Aug 2023, 3:37 pm)54APhotography Indeed, the biggest factor, which councils fail to react to is cars on the road. A fix five years ago is now overwhelmed. Bridge Street is a disaster for public transport, council should ban all cars and taxis from that area, force them to use alternate routes, yes that puts pressure elsewhere, but sometimes only one bus can get out in the stupidly short cycle, and the right turn off St. Mary's is often fouling the path.The trouble with the roundabout onto the bridge is twits who don't know what a yellow box is.
Suggestions of X24 using Kyall Road and Hylton Road probably won't happen so expect big delays on that route
(07 Aug 2023, 6:30 pm)F114TML The trouble with the roundabout onto the bridge is twits who don't know what a yellow box is.
Set up a yellow box camera there and they'll make a fortune.
(07 Aug 2023, 6:30 pm)F114TML The trouble with the roundabout onto the bridge is twits who know what a yellow box is and ignore it anyway as they don't want to wait.
Set up a yellow box camera there and they'll make a fortune.
(07 Aug 2023, 6:30 pm)F114TML The trouble with the roundabout onto the bridge is twits who know what a yellow box is and ignore it anyway as they don't want to wait.
Set up a yellow box camera there and they'll make a fortune.
