Tyne and Wear Metro
Tyne and Wear Metro
(12 Jun 2015, 5:42 pm)Michael Tyne and Wear Metro
There are delays of up to 30 mins to trains running between Millfield and Airport due to a failed train. Please leave extra time for your journey.
(12 Jun 2015, 5:42 pm)Michael Tyne and Wear Metro
There are delays of up to 30 mins to trains running between Millfield and Airport due to a failed train. Please leave extra time for your journey.
(12 Jun 2015, 6:13 pm)Tommy_1581 Millfield?!
It'll affect bloody South Hylton too!
(13 Jun 2015, 10:24 pm)Andreos1 Has anyone seen the video on 'Newcastle Uncovered' on fb?
Can't link the video to the page and is only short, so doesn't show the full picture. Interesting none the less.
(13 Jun 2015, 10:24 pm)Andreos1 Has anyone seen the video on 'Newcastle Uncovered' on fb?
Can't link the video to the page and is only short, so doesn't show the full picture. Interesting none the less.
(13 Jun 2015, 10:35 pm)aureolin This? http://www.facebook.com/NCLuncovered/videos/878062952286846/
Pretty sure that those inspectors don't have the legal power to pin someone to the ground, whether they're on Metro property or not...
(13 Jun 2015, 10:35 pm)aureolin This? http://www.facebook.com/NCLuncovered/vid...952286846/
Pretty sure that those inspectors don't have the legal power to pin someone to the ground, whether they're on Metro property or not...
(13 Jun 2015, 10:35 pm)aureolin This? http://www.facebook.com/NCLuncovered/vid...952286846/
Pretty sure that those inspectors don't have the legal power to pin someone to the ground, whether they're on Metro property or not...
I personally think it's a good thing - could this act as a deterrent for next time? I think so.
Obviously it wouldn't be right for this to instantly start happening everywhere by everyone. Yes Metro inspectors may not have the powers to do this (and I could see this horribly corrupt justice system seeing the youths as 'victims') however this is definitely better than waiting for the bobbies to turn up with the youths ran away; thus requiring more police resources to find them.
I'm fully against fare evasion, but wrestling someone to the ground over £20 is bang out of order really. It's intimidating for other passengers using the system, and certainly exceeds what would be seen as 'reasonable force'.
But it puts a message across that it isn't ok to evade the fare. If a bunch of youths are seen running away whilst the 'checkies' are just standing there doing nothing to catch them, it might make it acceptable.
Metro really need ticket barriers at ALL stops on the network - continually manned throughout operation too.
(14 Jun 2015, 4:31 pm)northern156 But it puts a message across that it isn't ok to evade the fare. If a bunch of youths are seen running away whilst the 'checkies' are just standing there doing nothing to catch them, it might make it acceptable.
Metro really need ticket barriers at ALL stops on the network - continually manned throughout operation too.
(14 Jun 2015, 4:31 pm)northern156 But it puts a message across that it isn't ok to evade the fare. If a bunch of youths are seen running away whilst the 'checkies' are just standing there doing nothing to catch them, it might make it acceptable.
Metro really need ticket barriers at ALL stops on the network - continually manned throughout operation too.
(14 Jun 2015, 4:54 pm)Dan Certainly agree with the bit in bold.
At present; fare evaders know the stations which the ticket barriers are almost always functioning, so no longer use these stations. Not only would it completely prevent fare evasion, but it would also provide assistance for customers at all stations.
Sadly I think the cost implication would be massive - not only would the infrastructure itself cost a bomb, but the continued staffing requirements too. I'd imagine that the costs would be higher than the money they'd get back from people who were abusing the system previously.
(14 Jun 2015, 4:54 pm)Dan Certainly agree with the bit in bold.
At present; fare evaders know the stations which the ticket barriers are almost always functioning, so no longer use these stations. Not only would it completely prevent fare evasion, but it would also provide assistance for customers at all stations.
Sadly I think the cost implication would be massive - not only would the infrastructure itself cost a bomb, but the continued staffing requirements too. I'd imagine that the costs would be higher than the money they'd get back from people who were abusing the system previously.
How can anyone say its bang out of order or its disgraceful when we don't know the full facts behind the situation?
I believe self defence should be allowed in situations where it needs to so if the staff involved felt in danger by whatever behaviour they are doing then if pinning them to the ground helps to keep themselves and members of the public more safe then so be it.
All this "against the law" line annoys me also, travelling on public transport without a ticket IS against the law, simple as. if you get caught and start to make a big song and dance about it which could endanger staff and members of the public, then these people need to be restrained and I think members of the public would welcome that to be honest.
There is clearly more to this than the video suggests as there is no way any staff member would use this action unless it was absolutely necesssary.
Also ticket barriers at every station would be a big no no for me, would be a total waste of tax payers money as in most suburban stations, there is plenty of escapes routes which fare dodgers can use so it would be a huge waste of money.
(14 Jun 2015, 5:24 pm)Bus_User All this "against the law" line annoys me also, travelling on public transport without a ticket IS against the law, simple as. if you get caught and start to make a big song and dance about it which could endanger staff and members of the public, then these people need to be restrained and I think members of the public would welcome that to be honest.
National Rail Conditions of Carriage When you buy a ticket to travel on scheduled services on the National Rail Network you make an agreement with the Train Companies whose trains the ticket allows you to use.
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Your obligations
You must:
• Have a valid ticket or tickets for the whole of your journey, at the time you want to travel and on the route and trains you want to use. Unless otherwise indicated, you must purchase your ticket before boarding the train you intend to use.
Tyne & Wear Metro Conditions of Carriage 4.1 – Duty to have a ticket or validated smartcard. You must have a ticket or smartcard that is valid for the whole of the journey being made.
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5.1 – You must have a valid ticket or smartcard for your journey before you board a Metro train. If you don’t have a valid ticket or smartcard, you may be issued with a Penalty Fare. You will either have to pay the Penalty Fare on the spot or within 21 days.
(14 Jun 2015, 5:24 pm)Bus_User Also ticket barriers at every station would be a big no no for me, would be a total waste of tax payers money as in most suburban stations, there is plenty of escapes routes which fare dodgers can use so it would be a huge waste of money.I wouldn't imagine such a project would be funded through taxpayers' money (unlike Network Rail). There must be plenty of emergency escape routes, however I think you'll find the number of fare evaders wanting to go through one of these (usually a large [and sometimes alarmed] fire door) are very, very few and far between. Such a project would've been thought through beforehand - I doubt many ticket barriers will have an obvious gap in them.
(14 Jun 2015, 5:24 pm)Bus_User All this "against the law" line annoys me also, travelling on public transport without a ticket IS against the law, simple as. if you get caught and start to make a big song and dance about it which could endanger staff and members of the public, then these people need to be restrained and I think members of the public would welcome that to be honest.
National Rail Conditions of Carriage When you buy a ticket to travel on scheduled services on the National Rail Network you make an agreement with the Train Companies whose trains the ticket allows you to use.
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Your obligations
You must:
• Have a valid ticket or tickets for the whole of your journey, at the time you want to travel and on the route and trains you want to use. Unless otherwise indicated, you must purchase your ticket before boarding the train you intend to use.
Tyne & Wear Metro Conditions of Carriage 4.1 – Duty to have a ticket or validated smartcard. You must have a ticket or smartcard that is valid for the whole of the journey being made.
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5.1 – You must have a valid ticket or smartcard for your journey before you board a Metro train. If you don’t have a valid ticket or smartcard, you may be issued with a Penalty Fare. You will either have to pay the Penalty Fare on the spot or within 21 days.
(14 Jun 2015, 5:24 pm)Bus_User Also ticket barriers at every station would be a big no no for me, would be a total waste of tax payers money as in most suburban stations, there is plenty of escapes routes which fare dodgers can use so it would be a huge waste of money.I wouldn't imagine such a project would be funded through taxpayers' money (unlike Network Rail). There must be plenty of emergency escape routes, however I think you'll find the number of fare evaders wanting to go through one of these (usually a large [and sometimes alarmed] fire door) are very, very few and far between. Such a project would've been thought through beforehand - I doubt many ticket barriers will have an obvious gap in them.
(14 Jun 2015, 4:31 pm)northern156 But it puts a message across that it isn't ok to evade the fare. If a bunch of youths are seen running away whilst the 'checkies' are just standing there doing nothing to catch them, it might make it acceptable.
Metro really need ticket barriers at ALL stops on the network - continually manned throughout operation too.
(14 Jun 2015, 5:24 pm)Bus_User How can anyone say its bang out of order or its disgraceful when we don't know the full facts behind the situation?
I believe self defence should be allowed in situations where it needs to so if the staff involved felt in danger by whatever behaviour they are doing then if pinning them to the ground helps to keep themselves and members of the public more safe then so be it.
All this "against the law" line annoys me also, travelling on public transport without a ticket IS against the law, simple as. if you get caught and start to make a big song and dance about it which could endanger staff and members of the public, then these people need to be restrained and I think members of the public would welcome that to be honest.
There is clearly more to this than the video suggests as there is no way any staff member would use this action unless it was absolutely necesssary.
Also ticket barriers at every station would be a big no no for me, would be a total waste of tax payers money as in most suburban stations, there is plenty of escapes routes which fare dodgers can use so it would be a huge waste of money.
(14 Jun 2015, 4:31 pm)northern156 But it puts a message across that it isn't ok to evade the fare. If a bunch of youths are seen running away whilst the 'checkies' are just standing there doing nothing to catch them, it might make it acceptable.
Metro really need ticket barriers at ALL stops on the network - continually manned throughout operation too.
(14 Jun 2015, 5:24 pm)Bus_User How can anyone say its bang out of order or its disgraceful when we don't know the full facts behind the situation?
I believe self defence should be allowed in situations where it needs to so if the staff involved felt in danger by whatever behaviour they are doing then if pinning them to the ground helps to keep themselves and members of the public more safe then so be it.
All this "against the law" line annoys me also, travelling on public transport without a ticket IS against the law, simple as. if you get caught and start to make a big song and dance about it which could endanger staff and members of the public, then these people need to be restrained and I think members of the public would welcome that to be honest.
There is clearly more to this than the video suggests as there is no way any staff member would use this action unless it was absolutely necesssary.
Also ticket barriers at every station would be a big no no for me, would be a total waste of tax payers money as in most suburban stations, there is plenty of escapes routes which fare dodgers can use so it would be a huge waste of money.
Very many thanks to the smartly dressed Metro Man who politely informed a gentleman smoking on the Metro platform at Heworth that he couldn't smoke - although this should have gone without saying, given that there are large signs everywhere!
(15 Jun 2015, 2:47 pm)Dan Very many thanks to the smartly dressed Metro Man who politely informed a gentleman smoking on the Metro platform at Heworth that he couldn't smoke - although this should have gone without saying, given that there are large signs everywhere!
(15 Jun 2015, 2:47 pm)Dan Very many thanks to the smartly dressed Metro Man who politely informed a gentleman smoking on the Metro platform at Heworth that he couldn't smoke - although this should have gone without saying, given that there are large signs everywhere!
(15 Jun 2015, 2:47 pm)Dan Very many thanks to the smartly dressed Metro Man who politely informed a gentleman smoking on the Metro platform at Heworth that he couldn't smoke - although this should have gone without saying, given that there are large signs everywhere!
(15 Jun 2015, 2:47 pm)Dan Very many thanks to the smartly dressed Metro Man who politely informed a gentleman smoking on the Metro platform at Heworth that he couldn't smoke - although this should have gone without saying, given that there are large signs everywhere!
(14 Jun 2015, 7:59 pm)aureolin On a separate note, the barriers at Heworth are as much use as a chocolate fireguard anyway. If you come in on the platform from Newcastle, there's absolutely nothing stopping you going through to the Heworth rail station (via the platform walkway), and then up and out via the ramp without barriers...
Right there's a sense of irony here. You're having a go at me for saying it's bang out of order without knowing the full facts behind the situation, and then you go on to suggest it's self defence? Mind you, I don't know how you'd justify pinning someone to the ground in open space as self defence in a 6 on 2 situation. I'd suggest it's way beyond reasonable force for self protection.
(14 Jun 2015, 7:59 pm)aureolin On a separate note, the barriers at Heworth are as much use as a chocolate fireguard anyway. If you come in on the platform from Newcastle, there's absolutely nothing stopping you going through to the Heworth rail station (via the platform walkway), and then up and out via the ramp without barriers...
Right there's a sense of irony here. You're having a go at me for saying it's bang out of order without knowing the full facts behind the situation, and then you go on to suggest it's self defence? Mind you, I don't know how you'd justify pinning someone to the ground in open space as self defence in a 6 on 2 situation. I'd suggest it's way beyond reasonable force for self protection.
Nexus to invest £40m in Metro modernisation over the next 12 months
Main works include:
The modernisation will include:
• The completed refurbishment of the Metro train fleet
• Track replacement on the QEII Bridge across the river Tyne and between Tynemouth and Northumberland Park stations
• A new Rail Traffic Management System (RTMS) in the Metro Control Room
• The modernisation of Central Station’s Metro ticket hall and platforms
• Station modernisation work at Heworth, Felling and Gateshead Stadium
• A new digital radio system for the Metro train fleet
• A key track junction replaced at Regent Centre
The work forms part of the £389m Metro: all change modernisation programme, a Government-funded scheme to modernise the Tyne and Wear Metro which began in 2010.
At the very bottom:
Nexus is planning further redevelopment work at Sunderland Station, working in partnership with Sunderland Council and Network Rail. These works will complement the improvements made to the sub-surface station in 2010.
http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus-...-12-months
(18 Jun 2015, 5:50 pm)Michael Nexus to invest £40m in Metro modernisation over the next 12 monthsWonder how much it is costs to Refurbish one Metro Train, then the overall cost of Refurbishing all them is, compared to the cost of purchasing New Trains.
Main works include:
The modernisation will include:
• The completed refurbishment of the Metro train fleet
• Track replacement on the QEII Bridge across the river Tyne and between Tynemouth and Northumberland Park stations
• A new Rail Traffic Management System (RTMS) in the Metro Control Room
• The modernisation of Central Station’s Metro ticket hall and platforms
• Station modernisation work at Heworth, Felling and Gateshead Stadium
• A new digital radio system for the Metro train fleet
• A key track junction replaced at Regent Centre
The work forms part of the £389m Metro: all change modernisation programme, a Government-funded scheme to modernise the Tyne and Wear Metro which began in 2010.
At the very bottom:
Nexus is planning further redevelopment work at Sunderland Station, working in partnership with Sunderland Council and Network Rail. These works will complement the improvements made to the sub-surface station in 2010.
http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus-...-12-months
(18 Jun 2015, 5:50 pm)Michael Nexus to invest £40m in Metro modernisation over the next 12 monthsWonder how much it is costs to Refurbish one Metro Train, then the overall cost of Refurbishing all them is, compared to the cost of purchasing New Trains.
Main works include:
The modernisation will include:
• The completed refurbishment of the Metro train fleet
• Track replacement on the QEII Bridge across the river Tyne and between Tynemouth and Northumberland Park stations
• A new Rail Traffic Management System (RTMS) in the Metro Control Room
• The modernisation of Central Station’s Metro ticket hall and platforms
• Station modernisation work at Heworth, Felling and Gateshead Stadium
• A new digital radio system for the Metro train fleet
• A key track junction replaced at Regent Centre
The work forms part of the £389m Metro: all change modernisation programme, a Government-funded scheme to modernise the Tyne and Wear Metro which began in 2010.
At the very bottom:
Nexus is planning further redevelopment work at Sunderland Station, working in partnership with Sunderland Council and Network Rail. These works will complement the improvements made to the sub-surface station in 2010.
http://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus-...-12-months