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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - July 2017

 
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Youngymmv



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25 Jul 2017, 12:42 pm #61
I don't think a pvr would be a reason for not receiving new vehicles. Happens all the time where stagecoach have allocated 2 or 3 from an order. Shields were given 2 14 plate darts couple years ago. A joint order for the e's and x34 perhaps?

Kind regards
Chris
Youngymmv
25 Jul 2017, 12:42 pm #61

I don't think a pvr would be a reason for not receiving new vehicles. Happens all the time where stagecoach have allocated 2 or 3 from an order. Shields were given 2 14 plate darts couple years ago. A joint order for the e's and x34 perhaps?

Kind regards
Chris

Andreos1



14,155
25 Jul 2017, 1:28 pm #62
(25 Jul 2017, 12:42 pm)Youngymmv I don't think a pvr would be a reason for not receiving new vehicles. Happens all the time where stagecoach have allocated 2 or 3 from an order. Shields were given 2 14 plate darts couple years ago. A joint order for the e's and x34 perhaps?

Kind regards
Chris

I've often wondered why they haven't made  much of a tactical move on the 'E's', in the way of upgraded vehicles.
Edited 25 Jul 2017, 1:29 pm by Andreos1.

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Andreos1
25 Jul 2017, 1:28 pm #62

(25 Jul 2017, 12:42 pm)Youngymmv I don't think a pvr would be a reason for not receiving new vehicles. Happens all the time where stagecoach have allocated 2 or 3 from an order. Shields were given 2 14 plate darts couple years ago. A joint order for the e's and x34 perhaps?

Kind regards
Chris

I've often wondered why they haven't made  much of a tactical move on the 'E's', in the way of upgraded vehicles.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Cock Robin



2,778
25 Jul 2017, 1:43 pm #63
When we visited the Stagecoach depot at Stockton for a 500 Group committee meeting the other night I was surprised to see a staff notice instructing drivers to under no circumstances drop off at stand 10 or 12 in M'bro bus station but to only use stand 11.
Stupid that. Really annoys me when you're on a bus and it queues up behind others, blocking the bus station, waiting to drop off on Stand 11. When I worked at the bus station they were told to drop off at the first available stop and Arriva still seem to do that, which makes sense.
Cock Robin
25 Jul 2017, 1:43 pm #63

When we visited the Stagecoach depot at Stockton for a 500 Group committee meeting the other night I was surprised to see a staff notice instructing drivers to under no circumstances drop off at stand 10 or 12 in M'bro bus station but to only use stand 11.
Stupid that. Really annoys me when you're on a bus and it queues up behind others, blocking the bus station, waiting to drop off on Stand 11. When I worked at the bus station they were told to drop off at the first available stop and Arriva still seem to do that, which makes sense.

26 Jul 2017, 8:09 am #64
(19 Jul 2017, 8:38 am)RBZ 5459 The Darts have replaced Optare Solos on Carlisle city service 60, Solos have gone to Fife.
35193/5 are going into Lakes green into Kendal depot, shifting some of the tired 05 plates to reserve.

(20 Jul 2017, 4:04 pm)RBZ 5459 35157/8 arrived into Carlisle this afternoon - the latter towed in. Should be heading into Kendal,  being another two to go green.

35195 doesn't look like it will be transferring to C&NL now, also could be a rethink about which ones go green to Kendal.


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 8:09 am #64

(19 Jul 2017, 8:38 am)RBZ 5459 The Darts have replaced Optare Solos on Carlisle city service 60, Solos have gone to Fife.
35193/5 are going into Lakes green into Kendal depot, shifting some of the tired 05 plates to reserve.

(20 Jul 2017, 4:04 pm)RBZ 5459 35157/8 arrived into Carlisle this afternoon - the latter towed in. Should be heading into Kendal,  being another two to go green.

35195 doesn't look like it will be transferring to C&NL now, also could be a rethink about which ones go green to Kendal.



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Michael



19,141
26 Jul 2017, 10:10 am #65
Has the gas bus double decker entered service yet?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
26 Jul 2017, 10:10 am #65

Has the gas bus double decker entered service yet?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

26 Jul 2017, 10:41 am #66
(26 Jul 2017, 10:10 am)Michael Has the gas bus double decker entered service yet?

Still on driver familiarisation/testing today. It's here till the end of August.


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 10:41 am #66

(26 Jul 2017, 10:10 am)Michael Has the gas bus double decker entered service yet?

Still on driver familiarisation/testing today. It's here till the end of August.



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idiot



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26 Jul 2017, 11:14 am #67
Don't think it's mentioned here but the Sunderland north estates day rider is getting replaced by Sunderland day rider on Sunday. The best one will cost £3.65.

Ignore me. The date in effect is 29th April!
Edited 26 Jul 2017, 11:17 am by idiot.
idiot
26 Jul 2017, 11:14 am #67

Don't think it's mentioned here but the Sunderland north estates day rider is getting replaced by Sunderland day rider on Sunday. The best one will cost £3.65.


Ignore me. The date in effect is 29th April!

26 Jul 2017, 12:38 pm #68
Stagecoach North East Movements Period 03 (up to week commencing 23rd July 2017)

Busways
19205 NK57DWM ADL Enviro 400 Walkergate to South Shields
22047 NK53KFP MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
22073 NK54BFZ MAN ALX300 Slatyford to Sunderland (Driver Trainer)
22580 SP08DDN MAN Enviro 300 In service at Slatyford
22673 V673DDC MAN ALX300 Sold to Alpha Recovery
35193 NK56FFO DENNIS DART SLF Disposal to Cumbria
*35195 NK56FFR DENNIS DART SLF Disposal to Cumbria
80036 DD16GAS SCANIA N280UD ADL to Sunderland (Demonstrator)
90325 MT17 OVV LEXUS CT200h New to Walkergate
91593 DX13 LXB VAUXHALL INSIGNIA Walkergate to Lex (off lease)

Transit
22013 NK03 XJC MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
22045 NK53 KFN MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
22049 NK53 KFT MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
35156 NK56 EPC DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Reserve
35157 NK56 EPD DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Carlisle
35158 NK56 EPE DENNIS DART SLF Reserve to Carlisle
35159 NK56 EPF DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Disposal
35163 NK56 EPO DENNIS DART SLF In service at Hartlepool
36461 NK61 EBZ ADL E200 In service at Hartlepool
36467 NK61 ECJ ADL E200 In service at Hartlepool

*Although movement recorded on the fleetcard, 35195 is no longer transferring to C&NL.
Edited 26 Jul 2017, 1:20 pm by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 12:38 pm #68

Stagecoach North East Movements Period 03 (up to week commencing 23rd July 2017)

Busways
19205 NK57DWM ADL Enviro 400 Walkergate to South Shields
22047 NK53KFP MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
22073 NK54BFZ MAN ALX300 Slatyford to Sunderland (Driver Trainer)
22580 SP08DDN MAN Enviro 300 In service at Slatyford
22673 V673DDC MAN ALX300 Sold to Alpha Recovery
35193 NK56FFO DENNIS DART SLF Disposal to Cumbria
*35195 NK56FFR DENNIS DART SLF Disposal to Cumbria
80036 DD16GAS SCANIA N280UD ADL to Sunderland (Demonstrator)
90325 MT17 OVV LEXUS CT200h New to Walkergate
91593 DX13 LXB VAUXHALL INSIGNIA Walkergate to Lex (off lease)

Transit
22013 NK03 XJC MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
22045 NK53 KFN MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
22049 NK53 KFT MAN ALX300 West Scotland to Disposal
35156 NK56 EPC DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Reserve
35157 NK56 EPD DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Carlisle
35158 NK56 EPE DENNIS DART SLF Reserve to Carlisle
35159 NK56 EPF DENNIS DART SLF Hartlepool to Disposal
35163 NK56 EPO DENNIS DART SLF In service at Hartlepool
36461 NK61 EBZ ADL E200 In service at Hartlepool
36467 NK61 ECJ ADL E200 In service at Hartlepool

*Although movement recorded on the fleetcard, 35195 is no longer transferring to C&NL.



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LVK 404L



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26 Jul 2017, 1:17 pm #69
(26 Jul 2017, 10:41 am)RBZ 5459 Still on driver familiarisation/testing today. It's here till the end of August.

Is it just going to be allocated to Sunderland or have Shields managed to wangle an agreement.

Could it be used by Shields then refuelled at Sunderland or would that be a waste of resource?
LVK 404L
26 Jul 2017, 1:17 pm #69

(26 Jul 2017, 10:41 am)RBZ 5459 Still on driver familiarisation/testing today. It's here till the end of August.

Is it just going to be allocated to Sunderland or have Shields managed to wangle an agreement.

Could it be used by Shields then refuelled at Sunderland or would that be a waste of resource?

26 Jul 2017, 1:37 pm #70
(26 Jul 2017, 1:17 pm)ifm001 Is it just going to be allocated to Sunderland or have Shields managed to wangle an agreement.

Could it be used by Shields then refuelled at Sunderland or would that be a waste of resource?

I haven't heard anything positive out of that attempt since it got knocked back, so I wouldn't think so. Be a bit of a hassle regardless, not so much the trial, but Stagecoach putting a new gas facility at Shields? Hmm!
Edited 26 Jul 2017, 1:38 pm by RBZ 5459.


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 1:37 pm #70

(26 Jul 2017, 1:17 pm)ifm001 Is it just going to be allocated to Sunderland or have Shields managed to wangle an agreement.

Could it be used by Shields then refuelled at Sunderland or would that be a waste of resource?

I haven't heard anything positive out of that attempt since it got knocked back, so I wouldn't think so. Be a bit of a hassle regardless, not so much the trial, but Stagecoach putting a new gas facility at Shields? Hmm!



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26 Jul 2017, 6:29 pm #71
80036 will be on the last X24, was on the penultimate one from Newcastle.


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 6:29 pm #71

80036 will be on the last X24, was on the penultimate one from Newcastle.



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Michael



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26 Jul 2017, 6:32 pm #72
(26 Jul 2017, 6:29 pm)RBZ 5459 80036 will be on the last X24, was on the penultimate one from Newcastle.

Thanks, what time will it be out tomorrow?

I finish work at 1pm so aiming to get it at around 2ish from the town.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
26 Jul 2017, 6:32 pm #72

(26 Jul 2017, 6:29 pm)RBZ 5459 80036 will be on the last X24, was on the penultimate one from Newcastle.

Thanks, what time will it be out tomorrow?

I finish work at 1pm so aiming to get it at around 2ish from the town.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

26 Jul 2017, 6:55 pm #73
(26 Jul 2017, 6:32 pm)Michael Thanks, what time will it be out tomorrow?

I finish work at 1pm so aiming to get it at around 2ish from the town.

Not sure Michael, had a tip off it could be on the last tonight so not too sure if it will be on the same board everyday. I will see the first two tomorrow in Newcastle en route to work, so will post if I see it, if someone doesn't!

Not like me to plug, but... 
[Image: 35792855900_097d3cd93d.jpg]80036 DD16GAS Newcastle X24 by Matt Williamson, on Flickr


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 6:55 pm #73

(26 Jul 2017, 6:32 pm)Michael Thanks, what time will it be out tomorrow?

I finish work at 1pm so aiming to get it at around 2ish from the town.

Not sure Michael, had a tip off it could be on the last tonight so not too sure if it will be on the same board everyday. I will see the first two tomorrow in Newcastle en route to work, so will post if I see it, if someone doesn't!

Not like me to plug, but... 
[Image: 35792855900_097d3cd93d.jpg]80036 DD16GAS Newcastle X24 by Matt Williamson, on Flickr



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Michael



19,141
26 Jul 2017, 7:20 pm #74
(26 Jul 2017, 6:55 pm)RBZ 5459 Not sure Michael, had a tip off it could be on the last tonight so not too sure if it will be on the same board everyday. I will see the first two tomorrow in Newcastle en route to work, so will post if I see it, if someone doesn't!

Not like me to plug, but... 
[Image: 35792855900_097d3cd93d.jpg]80036 DD16GAS Newcastle X24 by Matt Williamson, on Flickr


Thanks. Hopefully not, it'll be daft if its on the last X24 everyday.

Would think they would want it on from around 8am to late afternoon so more people can use it.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
26 Jul 2017, 7:20 pm #74

(26 Jul 2017, 6:55 pm)RBZ 5459 Not sure Michael, had a tip off it could be on the last tonight so not too sure if it will be on the same board everyday. I will see the first two tomorrow in Newcastle en route to work, so will post if I see it, if someone doesn't!

Not like me to plug, but... 
[Image: 35792855900_097d3cd93d.jpg]80036 DD16GAS Newcastle X24 by Matt Williamson, on Flickr


Thanks. Hopefully not, it'll be daft if its on the last X24 everyday.

Would think they would want it on from around 8am to late afternoon so more people can use it.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

26 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm #75
(26 Jul 2017, 10:41 am)RBZ 5459 Still on driver familiarisation/testing today. It's here till the end of August.

If its going to be at Sunderland till the end of August I hope they are going to trial it on some of the other routes aswell as the X24. Although I did overhear 2 drivers talking on the X24 yesterday something about all drivers are getting trained and I think they said the Omnilink's in case one was needed to go out onto the local routes.
Dans_bus_photos
26 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm #75

(26 Jul 2017, 10:41 am)RBZ 5459 Still on driver familiarisation/testing today. It's here till the end of August.

If its going to be at Sunderland till the end of August I hope they are going to trial it on some of the other routes aswell as the X24. Although I did overhear 2 drivers talking on the X24 yesterday something about all drivers are getting trained and I think they said the Omnilink's in case one was needed to go out onto the local routes.

Michael



19,141
26 Jul 2017, 7:32 pm #76
(26 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Dans_bus_photos If its going to be at Sunderland till the end of August I hope they are going to trial it on some of the other routes aswell as the X24. Although I did overhear 2 drivers talking on the X24 yesterday something about all drivers are getting trained and I think they said the Omnilink's in case one was needed to go out onto the local routes.

Come on Dan, we all know it won't last 5 minutes on another route, they don't cope on the X24 route haha.

The X24 needs better buses but the service isn't making a profit, as of yet, according to someones post on here the other day.

I do hope the decker will go on the gas routes in Sunderland.

Only way Sunderland would get deckers would be drop the likes of the 16, 20 to every 15 minutes.

Less buses on the route but made up with extra seats on the deckers... Won't happen at all though.
Edited 26 Jul 2017, 7:36 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
26 Jul 2017, 7:32 pm #76

(26 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Dans_bus_photos If its going to be at Sunderland till the end of August I hope they are going to trial it on some of the other routes aswell as the X24. Although I did overhear 2 drivers talking on the X24 yesterday something about all drivers are getting trained and I think they said the Omnilink's in case one was needed to go out onto the local routes.

Come on Dan, we all know it won't last 5 minutes on another route, they don't cope on the X24 route haha.

The X24 needs better buses but the service isn't making a profit, as of yet, according to someones post on here the other day.

I do hope the decker will go on the gas routes in Sunderland.

Only way Sunderland would get deckers would be drop the likes of the 16, 20 to every 15 minutes.

Less buses on the route but made up with extra seats on the deckers... Won't happen at all though.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

26 Jul 2017, 7:37 pm #77
(26 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Dans_bus_photos If its going to be at Sunderland till the end of August I hope they are going to trial it on some of the other routes aswell as the X24. Although I did overhear 2 drivers talking on the X24 yesterday something about all drivers are getting trained and I think they said the Omnilink's in case one was needed to go out onto the local routes.

You're implying that all three Omnilinks would be road worthy Dan   Big Grin
If they've got any sense they'll use the time wisely to overhaul them, more than they already have!


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RBZ 5459
26 Jul 2017, 7:37 pm #77

(26 Jul 2017, 7:25 pm)Dans_bus_photos If its going to be at Sunderland till the end of August I hope they are going to trial it on some of the other routes aswell as the X24. Although I did overhear 2 drivers talking on the X24 yesterday something about all drivers are getting trained and I think they said the Omnilink's in case one was needed to go out onto the local routes.

You're implying that all three Omnilinks would be road worthy Dan   Big Grin
If they've got any sense they'll use the time wisely to overhaul them, more than they already have!



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26 Jul 2017, 7:43 pm #78
Well that would make sense to do that while they've got a spare, although I defiantly herd something about all drivers getting trained on something. Quite surprisingly all 3 were out all day yesterday
Dans_bus_photos
26 Jul 2017, 7:43 pm #78

Well that would make sense to do that while they've got a spare, although I defiantly herd something about all drivers getting trained on something. Quite surprisingly all 3 were out all day yesterday

27 Jul 2017, 7:23 am #79
0815 off Newcastle this morning 80036.
Edited 27 Jul 2017, 7:23 am by RBZ 5459.


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27 Jul 2017, 7:23 am #79

0815 off Newcastle this morning 80036.



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Andreos1



14,155
27 Jul 2017, 7:25 am #80
(27 Jul 2017, 7:23 am)RBZ 5459 0815 off Newcastle this morning 80036.

Although far from scientific, my anecdotal evidence suggests this board is the one that tends to have a spare on.


Seen it umpteen times over the last few months and it very rarely has an Omnilink offering.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
27 Jul 2017, 7:25 am #80

(27 Jul 2017, 7:23 am)RBZ 5459 0815 off Newcastle this morning 80036.

Although far from scientific, my anecdotal evidence suggests this board is the one that tends to have a spare on.


Seen it umpteen times over the last few months and it very rarely has an Omnilink offering.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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