Returning to Public Transport
Returning to Public Transport
With the opening of all non-essential retail on the 15th June, when will people be comfortable using public transport for non-essential journeys again?
I'm assuming it's unlikely that there'll be a government announcement that bus/train enthusiasts can now ride to your heart's content - but if shops such as Primark are reopening, with public transport enforcing social distancing, then this means that people will likely be using public transport for non-essential travel (Though anecdotally many members of the public have been doing this throughout lockdown anyway).
Edit: I believe Stage 1 still advises against use of public transport wherever possible, with this not being mentioned in 2/3 so it is my assumption that the government are expecting people to use public transport again from June/July.
Travelling for travelling’s sake (i.e. enthusiasts) should be discouraged as long as services are running at a reduced capacity. If there’s the risk a person’s pleasure journey could prevent a genuinely needy passenger’s journey, besides the health risks.
(26 May 2020, 11:52 am)James101 Travelling for travelling’s sake (i.e. enthusiasts) should be discouraged as long as services are running at a reduced capacity. If there’s the risk a person’s pleasure journey could prevent a genuinely needy passenger’s journey, besides the health risks.
(26 May 2020, 11:52 am)James101 Travelling for travelling’s sake (i.e. enthusiasts) should be discouraged as long as services are running at a reduced capacity. If there’s the risk a person’s pleasure journey could prevent a genuinely needy passenger’s journey, besides the health risks.
(26 May 2020, 8:43 am)cbma06 Non-essential shops that do reopen from 15th June will have to obey the 2 metre rule, if this can not be met than the shop stays closed.
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(26 May 2020, 8:43 am)cbma06 Non-essential shops that do reopen from 15th June will have to obey the 2 metre rule, if this can not be met than the shop stays closed.
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(27 May 2020, 9:36 am)Ambassador Not strictly true. Where social distancing isn't possible (including the back area of some shops and food providers) as long as PPE is offered (for employees) and Customers wear a face covering the shop can trade.
(27 May 2020, 9:36 am)Ambassador Not strictly true. Where social distancing isn't possible (including the back area of some shops and food providers) as long as PPE is offered (for employees) and Customers wear a face covering the shop can trade.
(27 May 2020, 9:36 am)Ambassador Not strictly true. Where social distancing isn't possible (including the back area of some shops and food providers) as long as PPE is offered (for employees) and Customers wear a face covering the shop can trade.Can't see that working too well, though. Just picked up a prescription from the local chemist. Took a mask with me, though I don't habitually wear one. 2 guys left with no face covering at all. More concerning, the door was shut, so I had to touch it to get in and out.
(27 May 2020, 9:36 am)Ambassador Not strictly true. Where social distancing isn't possible (including the back area of some shops and food providers) as long as PPE is offered (for employees) and Customers wear a face covering the shop can trade.Can't see that working too well, though. Just picked up a prescription from the local chemist. Took a mask with me, though I don't habitually wear one. 2 guys left with no face covering at all. More concerning, the door was shut, so I had to touch it to get in and out.
(27 May 2020, 3:46 pm)BusLoverMum Can't see that working too well, though. Just picked up a prescription from the local chemist. Took a mask with me, though I don't habitually wear one. 2 guys left with no face covering at all. More concerning, the door was shut, so I had to touch it to get in and out.
(27 May 2020, 3:46 pm)BusLoverMum Can't see that working too well, though. Just picked up a prescription from the local chemist. Took a mask with me, though I don't habitually wear one. 2 guys left with no face covering at all. More concerning, the door was shut, so I had to touch it to get in and out.
(27 May 2020, 5:48 pm)streetdeckfan Being asthmatic, I can barely breathe when I wear a mask, unless it's a proper respirator type one. Plus, wearing a mask is more about stopping you spreading things rather than preventing you catching it.I struggle with a mask on, too but have some specifically for small shops.
What worries me is the general lack of awareness around how disinfectants work, it's no use spraying and wiping straight off, that does nowt. You have to let it sit for a while before wiping. So when you go to Aldi and give it a quick spritz with the anti-bac and wipe it straight off, you haven't really done anything.
What's worse is the shops where they have trolley washing facilities but no hand sanitizer, they expect you to touch a dirty trolley, take it in, touch the spray bottle (which is already covered in germs), wipe down the trolley, then touch it again with the dirty hands you touched it with before. Completely defeats the point of wiping it down in the first place!
(27 May 2020, 5:48 pm)streetdeckfan Being asthmatic, I can barely breathe when I wear a mask, unless it's a proper respirator type one. Plus, wearing a mask is more about stopping you spreading things rather than preventing you catching it.I struggle with a mask on, too but have some specifically for small shops.
What worries me is the general lack of awareness around how disinfectants work, it's no use spraying and wiping straight off, that does nowt. You have to let it sit for a while before wiping. So when you go to Aldi and give it a quick spritz with the anti-bac and wipe it straight off, you haven't really done anything.
What's worse is the shops where they have trolley washing facilities but no hand sanitizer, they expect you to touch a dirty trolley, take it in, touch the spray bottle (which is already covered in germs), wipe down the trolley, then touch it again with the dirty hands you touched it with before. Completely defeats the point of wiping it down in the first place!
I'll not be using it anytime soon. Not even for work.
I think operators have improved standards in terms of cleaning, which is good, but they cannot take responsibility for the (lack of) personal hygiene of customers. Not worth the risk imo.
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(01 Jun 2020, 2:41 pm)Adrian I'll not be using it anytime soon. Not even for work.
I think operators have improved standards in terms of cleaning, which is good, but they cannot take responsibility for the (lack of) personal hygiene of customers. Not worth the risk imo.
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(01 Jun 2020, 2:41 pm)Adrian I'll not be using it anytime soon. Not even for work.
I think operators have improved standards in terms of cleaning, which is good, but they cannot take responsibility for the (lack of) personal hygiene of customers. Not worth the risk imo.
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Owing to family members with breathing difficulties, I am unlikely to be getting on public transport any time soon or in a very limited capacity at least such as a hospital appointment next month which I can't drive home from but can seemingly go for a test drive up to Barnard Castle.
As much as I want to return to some level of normally and resume my usual activities such as bus bashing I feel it's going to be a fair while until this becomes something that I can do again, not only that but with buses running at roughly 25% capacity it's just not right IMO getting on buses for non essential reasons right now, saw a photo of my local service the other day which is currently running on an hourly frequency with 'Bus Full' on the blind so I don't want people who need to be places getting left behind by me having a jolly.
I'm hoping for September that I can return to travelling and spotting again as per pre lockdown especially as I have trips booked which I've already had to alter, I will however be continuing to spot in a limited capacity by driving to locations where social distancing is possible.
(02 Jun 2020, 8:30 am)Jimmi Owing to family members with breathing difficulties, I am unlikely to be getting on public transport any time soon or in a very limited capacity at least such as a hospital appointment next month which I can't drive home from but can seemingly go for a test drive up to Barnard Castle.
As much as I want to return to some level of normally and resume my usual activities such as bus bashing I feel it's going to be a fair while until this becomes something that I can do again, not only that but with buses running at roughly 25% capacity it's just not right IMO getting on buses for non essential reasons right now, saw a photo of my local service the other day which is currently running on an hourly frequency with 'Bus Full' on the blind so I don't want people who need to be places getting left behind by me having a jolly.
I'm hoping for September that I can return to travelling and spotting again as per pre lockdown especially as I have trips booked which I've already had to alter, I will however be continuing to spot in a limited capacity by driving to locations where social distancing is possible.
(02 Jun 2020, 8:30 am)Jimmi Owing to family members with breathing difficulties, I am unlikely to be getting on public transport any time soon or in a very limited capacity at least such as a hospital appointment next month which I can't drive home from but can seemingly go for a test drive up to Barnard Castle.
As much as I want to return to some level of normally and resume my usual activities such as bus bashing I feel it's going to be a fair while until this becomes something that I can do again, not only that but with buses running at roughly 25% capacity it's just not right IMO getting on buses for non essential reasons right now, saw a photo of my local service the other day which is currently running on an hourly frequency with 'Bus Full' on the blind so I don't want people who need to be places getting left behind by me having a jolly.
I'm hoping for September that I can return to travelling and spotting again as per pre lockdown especially as I have trips booked which I've already had to alter, I will however be continuing to spot in a limited capacity by driving to locations where social distancing is possible.
(02 Jun 2020, 1:58 pm)streetdeckfan I would personally have no issues riding the buses 'recreationally' during off-peak times where the chances of other passengers being on board are low, especially routes like the X21 where even pre-covid you could have the whole upstairs to yourself for the full journey.
Plus, it looks like with the new counting feature on the ticket machines they'll be able to keep the app up to date with passenger numbers so you can see how busy the bus is before you get on, and they'll have data to estimate how busy services usually are.
(02 Jun 2020, 1:58 pm)streetdeckfan I would personally have no issues riding the buses 'recreationally' during off-peak times where the chances of other passengers being on board are low, especially routes like the X21 where even pre-covid you could have the whole upstairs to yourself for the full journey.
Plus, it looks like with the new counting feature on the ticket machines they'll be able to keep the app up to date with passenger numbers so you can see how busy the bus is before you get on, and they'll have data to estimate how busy services usually are.
(02 Jun 2020, 2:11 pm)Jimmi Transdev are in the process of introducing something along those lines: https://m.facebook.com/notes/the-north-w...755601723/
(02 Jun 2020, 2:11 pm)Jimmi Transdev are in the process of introducing something along those lines: https://m.facebook.com/notes/the-north-w...755601723/
Had my first bus ride for quite a while today. Had to travel to Swalwell to collect my car following it's mot and annual service. Had the pleasure of witnessing a middle aged chav woman who had just came from hospital threatening to bite someone's face off. The joys of public transport. I have not used the Metro since March.
Charles
I haven’t been on a bus since 27th February (100 from Newcastle to Metrocentre btw) and not planning to anytime soon unless it’s a last resort, bit of a problem though the last couple of days as had to borrow my mams car to go out yesterday for some spotting (socially distanced of course) and shopping on the way home as my car has a clutch problem (pedal goes straight to the floor and can’t get in gear).
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(02 Jun 2020, 7:33 pm)Charles41 Had my first bus ride for quite a while today. Had to travel to Swalwell to collect my car following it's mot and annual service. Had the pleasure of witnessing a middle aged chav woman who had just came from hospital threatening to bite someone's face off. The joys of public transport. I have not used the Metro since March.
Charles
(02 Jun 2020, 7:33 pm)Charles41 Had my first bus ride for quite a while today. Had to travel to Swalwell to collect my car following it's mot and annual service. Had the pleasure of witnessing a middle aged chav woman who had just came from hospital threatening to bite someone's face off. The joys of public transport. I have not used the Metro since March.
Charles
(02 Jun 2020, 2:11 pm)Jimmi Transdev are in the process of introducing something along those lines: https://m.facebook.com/notes/the-north-w...755601723/
(02 Jun 2020, 2:11 pm)Jimmi Transdev are in the process of introducing something along those lines: https://m.facebook.com/notes/the-north-w...755601723/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52909787
A Welsh minister is suggesting pre-booking may be the answer.
Whilst I understand where he is coming from, I'm not sure it would do the industry any favours at all. Certainly not in the short or medium term.