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Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022

Nexus Tenders | Newcastle & North Tyneside - March 2022

 
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GuyParkRoyal



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19 Dec 2021, 1:00 pm #1
Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for secured services in Newcastle and North Tyneside with a contract start date of 27th March 2022 with the contract ending on 25th March 2023.
GuyParkRoyal
19 Dec 2021, 1:00 pm #1

Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for secured services in Newcastle and North Tyneside with a contract start date of 27th March 2022 with the contract ending on 25th March 2023.

Keeiajs

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19 Dec 2021, 1:01 pm #2
(19 Dec 2021, 1:00 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for secured services in Newcastle and North Tyneside with a contract start date of 27th March 2022 with the contract ending on 25th March 2023.
What services are apart of this?
Keeiajs
19 Dec 2021, 1:01 pm #2

(19 Dec 2021, 1:00 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for secured services in Newcastle and North Tyneside with a contract start date of 27th March 2022 with the contract ending on 25th March 2023.
What services are apart of this?

28 Dec 2021, 1:28 am #3
(19 Dec 2021, 1:01 pm)Keeiajs What services are apart of this?

I guess 18/18A, 32A, 33/33A, Little Coasters 11/19/41A/42/42A, 84/84A.

Probably be GCT for everything apart from 18/18A and 84/84A which could be GNE for the 18/18A and maybe Phoenix or A-line for the 84/84A, maybe Stanley Travel could get it back? 32A I'd love to go back to GNE or go to A-line.
OrangeArrow49
28 Dec 2021, 1:28 am #3

(19 Dec 2021, 1:01 pm)Keeiajs What services are apart of this?

I guess 18/18A, 32A, 33/33A, Little Coasters 11/19/41A/42/42A, 84/84A.

Probably be GCT for everything apart from 18/18A and 84/84A which could be GNE for the 18/18A and maybe Phoenix or A-line for the 84/84A, maybe Stanley Travel could get it back? 32A I'd love to go back to GNE or go to A-line.

01 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm #4
Are Go North East likely to run the 33/33A commercially if they lose the contract in March? If competition is being reduced on corridors are we likely to see big changes in Gosforth and North Tyneside, common ticketing for Arriva/GNE and changes to Coaster 1/Stagecoach 22 in Newcastle and Byker? Wallsend/Walker changes perhaps work together on timetabling (likely with 306/308/309/310/311 at Coast Road).

Maybe other bus operators could introduce new services in a new post-competition region?
OrangeArrow49
01 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm #4

Are Go North East likely to run the 33/33A commercially if they lose the contract in March? If competition is being reduced on corridors are we likely to see big changes in Gosforth and North Tyneside, common ticketing for Arriva/GNE and changes to Coaster 1/Stagecoach 22 in Newcastle and Byker? Wallsend/Walker changes perhaps work together on timetabling (likely with 306/308/309/310/311 at Coast Road).

Maybe other bus operators could introduce new services in a new post-competition region?

busmanT



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02 Jan 2022, 8:43 am #5
(01 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are Go North East likely to run the 33/33A commercially if they lose the contract in March? If competition is being reduced on corridors are we likely to see big changes in Gosforth and North Tyneside, common ticketing for Arriva/GNE and changes to Coaster 1/Stagecoach 22 in Newcastle and Byker? Wallsend/Walker changes perhaps work together on timetabling (likely with 306/308/309/310/311 at Coast Road).

Maybe other bus operators could introduce new services in a new post-competition region?
33/33A - I seriously doubt it!! It only ever has about 3 or 4 passengers on when I see it.

New services - with passenger numbers only at around 65-70% of pre COVID numbers I doubt any operator will introduce new services (unless they replace existing ones). Bus operator costs have risen significantly - wage increases, extra cleaning cost, higher fuel prices - so I think we'll be seeing more cutbacks over the next 12 months.
busmanT
02 Jan 2022, 8:43 am #5

(01 Jan 2022, 10:10 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are Go North East likely to run the 33/33A commercially if they lose the contract in March? If competition is being reduced on corridors are we likely to see big changes in Gosforth and North Tyneside, common ticketing for Arriva/GNE and changes to Coaster 1/Stagecoach 22 in Newcastle and Byker? Wallsend/Walker changes perhaps work together on timetabling (likely with 306/308/309/310/311 at Coast Road).

Maybe other bus operators could introduce new services in a new post-competition region?
33/33A - I seriously doubt it!! It only ever has about 3 or 4 passengers on when I see it.

New services - with passenger numbers only at around 65-70% of pre COVID numbers I doubt any operator will introduce new services (unless they replace existing ones). Bus operator costs have risen significantly - wage increases, extra cleaning cost, higher fuel prices - so I think we'll be seeing more cutbacks over the next 12 months.

02 Jan 2022, 12:27 pm #6
(02 Jan 2022, 8:43 am)busmanT 33/33A - I seriously doubt it!! It only ever has about 3 or 4 passengers on when I see it.

New services - with passenger numbers only at around 65-70% of pre COVID numbers I doubt any operator will introduce new services (unless they replace existing ones). Bus operator costs have risen significantly - wage increases, extra cleaning cost, higher fuel prices - so I think we'll be seeing more cutbacks over the next 12 months.

33/33A - Me too, I suspect it will go to GCT. 

New services - To clarify I meant individual operators could introduce new services as currently they could never compete, but in a post-competition region where bus operators work together maybe all bus companies would be able to get involved. Working together is all well and good, but Stagecoach offers a poor service in Newcastle, in terms of punctuality and vehicles, with the exception of the new buses on the 39/40 and 62/63. As part of working together Stagecoach and Go North East could give up services whilst maintaining ticket acceptance (I'm guessing a zone system will be introduced as part of the bus improvement plan so bus operators can work together) so this could open up different opportunities for different operators to replace existing services. 

Cutbacks such as what do you think?

Just some outrageous suggestions, perhaps merge Stagecoach and GNE services with the same or similar numbers :

1 - Slatyford - Benwell - Newcastle - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Whitley Bay - North Shields 

6 - Four Lane Ends - Kingston Park - Blakelaw - Westerhope - West Denton - Metrocentre - Sunniside

7 - Four Lane Ends - Gosforth - Blakelaw - Westerhope - West Denton - Metrocentre - Sunniside - Stanley 

10/10A/10B - North Kenton - Newcastle - Denton Burn - Metrocentre - Hexham/Rockwood Hill/Low Prudhoe

12/12A- Wallsend - Walker - Newcastle - Fenham  - Blaydon - Winlaton
OrangeArrow49
02 Jan 2022, 12:27 pm #6

(02 Jan 2022, 8:43 am)busmanT 33/33A - I seriously doubt it!! It only ever has about 3 or 4 passengers on when I see it.

New services - with passenger numbers only at around 65-70% of pre COVID numbers I doubt any operator will introduce new services (unless they replace existing ones). Bus operator costs have risen significantly - wage increases, extra cleaning cost, higher fuel prices - so I think we'll be seeing more cutbacks over the next 12 months.

33/33A - Me too, I suspect it will go to GCT. 

New services - To clarify I meant individual operators could introduce new services as currently they could never compete, but in a post-competition region where bus operators work together maybe all bus companies would be able to get involved. Working together is all well and good, but Stagecoach offers a poor service in Newcastle, in terms of punctuality and vehicles, with the exception of the new buses on the 39/40 and 62/63. As part of working together Stagecoach and Go North East could give up services whilst maintaining ticket acceptance (I'm guessing a zone system will be introduced as part of the bus improvement plan so bus operators can work together) so this could open up different opportunities for different operators to replace existing services. 

Cutbacks such as what do you think?

Just some outrageous suggestions, perhaps merge Stagecoach and GNE services with the same or similar numbers :

1 - Slatyford - Benwell - Newcastle - Byker - Walker - Wallsend - Whitley Bay - North Shields 

6 - Four Lane Ends - Kingston Park - Blakelaw - Westerhope - West Denton - Metrocentre - Sunniside

7 - Four Lane Ends - Gosforth - Blakelaw - Westerhope - West Denton - Metrocentre - Sunniside - Stanley 

10/10A/10B - North Kenton - Newcastle - Denton Burn - Metrocentre - Hexham/Rockwood Hill/Low Prudhoe

12/12A- Wallsend - Walker - Newcastle - Fenham  - Blaydon - Winlaton

Dan

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02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm #7
(19 Dec 2021, 1:00 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for secured services in Newcastle and North Tyneside with a contract start date of 27th March 2022 with the contract ending on 25th March 2023.

This process has now been cancelled.
Dan
02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm #7

(19 Dec 2021, 1:00 pm)GuyParkRoyal Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for secured services in Newcastle and North Tyneside with a contract start date of 27th March 2022 with the contract ending on 25th March 2023.

This process has now been cancelled.

02 Jan 2022, 12:38 pm #8
(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.

Cancelled? So operators will keep the services for another year?

Is the 12/12A fully commercially operated?
Edited 02 Jan 2022, 12:43 pm by OrangeArrow49.
OrangeArrow49
02 Jan 2022, 12:38 pm #8

(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.

Cancelled? So operators will keep the services for another year?

Is the 12/12A fully commercially operated?

Michael



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02 Jan 2022, 1:06 pm #9
(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.

Interesting, why?

Due to commercial changes in March? (If there are plans)

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
02 Jan 2022, 1:06 pm #9

(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.

Interesting, why?

Due to commercial changes in March? (If there are plans)


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

02 Jan 2022, 3:50 pm #10
(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.
Consultation on service changes doesn't end until Jan 12th 2022, so process should not really be started until analysis of feedback has been done, BUT, this is Nexus !!
minibus1474
02 Jan 2022, 3:50 pm #10

(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.
Consultation on service changes doesn't end until Jan 12th 2022, so process should not really be started until analysis of feedback has been done, BUT, this is Nexus !!

02 Jan 2022, 9:48 pm #11
As part of the BSIP are GCT involved? They operate services terribly, which is absolutely not value for money because they run them so badly they are borderline unusable. Cheap, yes, but the services might as well not exist in the current way GCT operate them.

What do people think about the Nexus consultations which end on 12th January? Be nice to see GCT run fewer services, better.
OrangeArrow49
02 Jan 2022, 9:48 pm #11

As part of the BSIP are GCT involved? They operate services terribly, which is absolutely not value for money because they run them so badly they are borderline unusable. Cheap, yes, but the services might as well not exist in the current way GCT operate them.

What do people think about the Nexus consultations which end on 12th January? Be nice to see GCT run fewer services, better.

Train8261



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03 Jan 2022, 12:10 am #12
(02 Jan 2022, 9:48 pm)OrangeArrow49 As part of the BSIP are GCT involved? They operate services terribly, which is absolutely not value for money because they run them so badly they are borderline unusable. Cheap, yes, but the services might as well not exist in the current way GCT operate them.

What do people think about the Nexus consultations which end on 12th January? Be nice to see GCT run fewer services, better.
Only thing we can do is complain. Gct will keep all there contacts why cause nexus simply don't care plus gne don't want there North Tyneside routes back on an evening (11/19/41/41A/42/42A)
Train8261
03 Jan 2022, 12:10 am #12

(02 Jan 2022, 9:48 pm)OrangeArrow49 As part of the BSIP are GCT involved? They operate services terribly, which is absolutely not value for money because they run them so badly they are borderline unusable. Cheap, yes, but the services might as well not exist in the current way GCT operate them.

What do people think about the Nexus consultations which end on 12th January? Be nice to see GCT run fewer services, better.
Only thing we can do is complain. Gct will keep all there contacts why cause nexus simply don't care plus gne don't want there North Tyneside routes back on an evening (11/19/41/41A/42/42A)

Adrian



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05 Jan 2022, 3:09 pm #13
(02 Jan 2022, 9:48 pm)OrangeArrow49 As part of the BSIP are GCT involved? They operate services terribly, which is absolutely not value for money because they run them so badly they are borderline unusable. Cheap, yes, but the services might as well not exist in the current way GCT operate them.

What do people think about the Nexus consultations which end on 12th January? Be nice to see GCT run fewer services, better.

BSIP covers all local services running in the EP area (Northumberland, Tyne and Wear and Durham), unless excluded. Appendix B of this document sets out what qualifies and what the exclusions are: https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/wp...Scheme.pdf

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Adrian
05 Jan 2022, 3:09 pm #13

(02 Jan 2022, 9:48 pm)OrangeArrow49 As part of the BSIP are GCT involved? They operate services terribly, which is absolutely not value for money because they run them so badly they are borderline unusable. Cheap, yes, but the services might as well not exist in the current way GCT operate them.

What do people think about the Nexus consultations which end on 12th January? Be nice to see GCT run fewer services, better.

BSIP covers all local services running in the EP area (Northumberland, Tyne and Wear and Durham), unless excluded. Appendix B of this document sets out what qualifies and what the exclusions are: https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/wp...Scheme.pdf


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Dan

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25 Jan 2022, 7:35 pm #14
(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.


Nexus have now re-issued these tenders, with some changes, including a small number of services which are currently operated by Go North East and Stagecoach commercially.


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Dan
25 Jan 2022, 7:35 pm #14

(02 Jan 2022, 12:36 pm)Dan This process has now been cancelled.


Nexus have now re-issued these tenders, with some changes, including a small number of services which are currently operated by Go North East and Stagecoach commercially.


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Michael



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25 Jan 2022, 8:03 pm #15
(25 Jan 2022, 7:35 pm)Dan Nexus have now re-issued these tenders, with some changes, including a small number of services which are currently operated by Go North East and Stagecoach commercially.


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Oh that doesn't sound good... Any Stagecoach Sunderland services (apart from the 8)?

Hopefully people can still use the Stagecoach passes on them!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Jan 2022, 8:03 pm #15

(25 Jan 2022, 7:35 pm)Dan Nexus have now re-issued these tenders, with some changes, including a small number of services which are currently operated by Go North East and Stagecoach commercially.


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Oh that doesn't sound good... Any Stagecoach Sunderland services (apart from the 8)?

Hopefully people can still use the Stagecoach passes on them!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

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25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm #16
(25 Jan 2022, 8:03 pm)Michael Oh that doesn't sound good... Any Stagecoach Sunderland services (apart from the 8)?

Hopefully people can still use the Stagecoach passes on them!


The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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Dan
25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm #16

(25 Jan 2022, 8:03 pm)Michael Oh that doesn't sound good... Any Stagecoach Sunderland services (apart from the 8)?

Hopefully people can still use the Stagecoach passes on them!


The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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Michael



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25 Jan 2022, 8:11 pm #17
(25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm)Dan The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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Ah yes, complete forgot about that haha

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
25 Jan 2022, 8:11 pm #17

(25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm)Dan The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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Ah yes, complete forgot about that haha


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

25 Jan 2022, 9:12 pm #18
(25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm)Dan The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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Which services are up for tender? Are there any changes besides possible operator changes? For example the 33/33A new route proposed last month.
OrangeArrow49
25 Jan 2022, 9:12 pm #18

(25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm)Dan The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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Which services are up for tender? Are there any changes besides possible operator changes? For example the 33/33A new route proposed last month.

Omega54



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25 Jan 2022, 9:52 pm #19
(25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm)Dan The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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What are the changes for GNE services from Nexus.
Omega54
25 Jan 2022, 9:52 pm #19

(25 Jan 2022, 8:07 pm)Dan The March tenders are for Newcastle and North Tyneside.

Presumably any commercial reductions in Sunderland will be aligned to the usual Nexus fixed service change date in May.


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What are the changes for GNE services from Nexus.

MurdnunoC



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25 Jan 2022, 10:00 pm #20
What changes are Nexus making to services in the year 2137?
MurdnunoC
25 Jan 2022, 10:00 pm #20

What changes are Nexus making to services in the year 2137?

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