Paper Timetables
Paper Timetables
I dont often give go north east praise but i picked up a timetable on the 94 today and its clear and concise. it also includes the 91, 92 and 937, one of which isnt a GNE service. It also has a icon to tell u the service wont be ran but a " loop bus". Very good
(19 Apr 2022, 12:51 pm)Rob44 I dont often give go north east praise but i picked up a timetable on the 94 today and its clear and concise. it also includes the 91, 92 and 937, one of which isnt a GNE service. It also has a icon to tell u the service wont be ran but a " loop bus". Very goodDitto.
(19 Apr 2022, 12:51 pm)Rob44 I dont often give go north east praise but i picked up a timetable on the 94 today and its clear and concise. it also includes the 91, 92 and 937, one of which isnt a GNE service. It also has a icon to tell u the service wont be ran but a " loop bus". Very goodDitto.
Resurrecting an old thread here but wondering if anyone knows whether GNE or SNE produced printed Christmas timetables this year? I know Arriva did and all three did last year, but didn't see any GNE or SNE offerings this time around?
(02 Jan 2023, 11:19 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Resurrecting an old thread here but wondering if anyone knows whether GNE or SNE produced printed Christmas timetables this year? I know Arriva did and all three did last year, but didn't see any GNE or SNE offerings this time around?
(02 Jan 2023, 11:19 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Resurrecting an old thread here but wondering if anyone knows whether GNE or SNE produced printed Christmas timetables this year? I know Arriva did and all three did last year, but didn't see any GNE or SNE offerings this time around?
(03 Jan 2023, 5:11 am)Dan A guide was produced (and is available to download from the website) for Go North East, but was not printed.
GNE do not produce paper timetables anymore.
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(03 Jan 2023, 5:11 am)Dan A guide was produced (and is available to download from the website) for Go North East, but was not printed.
GNE do not produce paper timetables anymore.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
(03 Jan 2023, 5:11 am)Dan A guide was produced (and is available to download from the website) for Go North East, but was not printed.
GNE do not produce paper timetables anymore.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
(03 Jan 2023, 5:11 am)Dan A guide was produced (and is available to download from the website) for Go North East, but was not printed.
GNE do not produce paper timetables anymore.
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(03 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm)streetdeckfan Surprised they're even wasting money on the formatted timetables.
What's the point if they're not going to be printed!
(03 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm)streetdeckfan Surprised they're even wasting money on the formatted timetables.
What's the point if they're not going to be printed!
At the risk of sounding like a sycophant, I quite like the new pdf format. It's a lot clearer and it looks print friendly too!
Shame about the paper timetables though. They would be a marginal cost, although I can imagine three versions of the Stanley and Consett guide in one year recently would punch quite a hole....
Hopefully, they'll make a return in some form like elsewhere in the UK with other local bus companies and local authorities.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:34 pm)DeltaMan At the risk of sounding like a sycophant, I quite like the new pdf format. It's a lot clearer and it looks print friendly too!
Shame about the paper timetables though. They would be a marginal cost, although I can imagine three versions of the Stanley and Consett guide in one year recently would punch quite a hole....
Hopefully, they'll make a return in some form like elsewhere in the UK with other local bus companies and local authorities.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:34 pm)DeltaMan At the risk of sounding like a sycophant, I quite like the new pdf format. It's a lot clearer and it looks print friendly too!
Shame about the paper timetables though. They would be a marginal cost, although I can imagine three versions of the Stanley and Consett guide in one year recently would punch quite a hole....
Hopefully, they'll make a return in some form like elsewhere in the UK with other local bus companies and local authorities.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:34 pm)DeltaMan At the risk of sounding like a sycophant, I quite like the new pdf format. It's a lot clearer and it looks print friendly too!
Shame about the paper timetables though. They would be a marginal cost, although I can imagine three versions of the Stanley and Consett guide in one year recently would punch quite a hole....
Hopefully, they'll make a return in some form like elsewhere in the UK with other local bus companies and local authorities.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:34 pm)DeltaMan At the risk of sounding like a sycophant, I quite like the new pdf format. It's a lot clearer and it looks print friendly too!
Shame about the paper timetables though. They would be a marginal cost, although I can imagine three versions of the Stanley and Consett guide in one year recently would punch quite a hole....
Hopefully, they'll make a return in some form like elsewhere in the UK with other local bus companies and local authorities.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:55 pm)Adrian You're probably looking at £500 per 10,000 timetables, not only for the printing but the folding process. Multiply that by the number of services, and again by the number of changes (even tweaks) every year, and it becomes a small fortune.
The area guides that they produced won't have been cheap either. Probably looking at £2000-£3000 per 5000, for the print and post-processing.
Of course none of this includes the cost of design or any studio work.
Whilst I think paper timetables are nice to have, they don't really serve any purpose when an operator is not disciplined enough to avoid frequent timetable (or price) changes. You might have just spent £3000 on an area guide for Consett for example, and it's immediately out of date because they've needed to tweak a couple journeys on the 47.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:55 pm)Adrian You're probably looking at £500 per 10,000 timetables, not only for the printing but the folding process. Multiply that by the number of services, and again by the number of changes (even tweaks) every year, and it becomes a small fortune.
The area guides that they produced won't have been cheap either. Probably looking at £2000-£3000 per 5000, for the print and post-processing.
Of course none of this includes the cost of design or any studio work.
Whilst I think paper timetables are nice to have, they don't really serve any purpose when an operator is not disciplined enough to avoid frequent timetable (or price) changes. You might have just spent £3000 on an area guide for Consett for example, and it's immediately out of date because they've needed to tweak a couple journeys on the 47.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:55 pm)Adrian You're probably looking at £500 per 10,000 timetables, not only for the printing but the folding process. Multiply that by the number of services, and again by the number of changes (even tweaks) every year, and it becomes a small fortune.See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.
The area guides that they produced won't have been cheap either. Probably looking at £2000-£3000 per 5000, for the print and post-processing.
Of course none of this includes the cost of design or any studio work.
Whilst I think paper timetables are nice to have, they don't really serve any purpose when an operator is not disciplined enough to avoid frequent timetable (or price) changes. You might have just spent £3000 on an area guide for Consett for example, and it's immediately out of date because they've needed to tweak a couple journeys on the 47.
(03 Jan 2023, 2:55 pm)Adrian You're probably looking at £500 per 10,000 timetables, not only for the printing but the folding process. Multiply that by the number of services, and again by the number of changes (even tweaks) every year, and it becomes a small fortune.See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.
The area guides that they produced won't have been cheap either. Probably looking at £2000-£3000 per 5000, for the print and post-processing.
Of course none of this includes the cost of design or any studio work.
Whilst I think paper timetables are nice to have, they don't really serve any purpose when an operator is not disciplined enough to avoid frequent timetable (or price) changes. You might have just spent £3000 on an area guide for Consett for example, and it's immediately out of date because they've needed to tweak a couple journeys on the 47.
(03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm)DeltaMan See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.
I know of two companies than went to a uni open day. One took a proper timetable and the other took a piece of paper with a QR code to a link (which didn't work). I can tell you the bin was full of the QR codes and the timetable booklet were exhausted (and not binned).
It is also a drop in the ocean compared to the overall turnover of a medium to large bus companny. It's certainly not the timetable leaflets fault if an operator can't schedule it's services properly.
Of course, they are the first thing a bean counter looks at when trying to save some money when said service changes are a disaster.
(03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm)DeltaMan See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.
I know of two companies than went to a uni open day. One took a proper timetable and the other took a piece of paper with a QR code to a link (which didn't work). I can tell you the bin was full of the QR codes and the timetable booklet were exhausted (and not binned).
It is also a drop in the ocean compared to the overall turnover of a medium to large bus companny. It's certainly not the timetable leaflets fault if an operator can't schedule it's services properly.
Of course, they are the first thing a bean counter looks at when trying to save some money when said service changes are a disaster.
(03 Jan 2023, 6:11 pm)Adrian What makes them essential though? A commercial operator's primary objective is to get passengers from A to B, whilst at least breaking even in doing so. As far as a business is concerned, it's non-essential expenditure, because it's absence doesn't impact it's ability to meet the primary objective.Why does LIDL and ALDI print weekly magazines despite the very same information being in the app?
(03 Jan 2023, 6:11 pm)Adrian What makes them essential though? A commercial operator's primary objective is to get passengers from A to B, whilst at least breaking even in doing so. As far as a business is concerned, it's non-essential expenditure, because it's absence doesn't impact it's ability to meet the primary objective.Why does LIDL and ALDI print weekly magazines despite the very same information being in the app?
(03 Jan 2023, 8:13 pm)DeltaMan Why does LIDL and ALDI print weekly magazines despite the very same information being in the app?
(03 Jan 2023, 8:13 pm)DeltaMan Why does LIDL and ALDI print weekly magazines despite the very same information being in the app?Those weekly magazines serve a different purpose to a bus timetable. They're full of products that they want to make big sales on, whereas a bus timetable is full of times a bus is scheduled to arrive?
(03 Jan 2023, 8:13 pm)DeltaMan Why does LIDL and ALDI print weekly magazines despite the very same information being in the app?Those weekly magazines serve a different purpose to a bus timetable. They're full of products that they want to make big sales on, whereas a bus timetable is full of times a bus is scheduled to arrive?
(03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm)DeltaMan See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.
I know of two companies than went to a uni open day. One took a proper timetable and the other took a piece of paper with a QR code to a link (which didn't work). I can tell you the bin was full of the QR codes and the timetable booklet were exhausted (and not binned).
It is also a drop in the ocean compared to the overall turnover of a medium to large bus companny. It's certainly not the timetable leaflets fault if an operator can't schedule it's services properly.
Of course, they are the first thing a bean counter looks at when trying to save some money when said service changes are a disaster.
(03 Jan 2023, 5:07 pm)DeltaMan See, I don't agree. At the risk of sounding like Roger French, I think they are essential as part of a package.
I know of two companies than went to a uni open day. One took a proper timetable and the other took a piece of paper with a QR code to a link (which didn't work). I can tell you the bin was full of the QR codes and the timetable booklet were exhausted (and not binned).
It is also a drop in the ocean compared to the overall turnover of a medium to large bus companny. It's certainly not the timetable leaflets fault if an operator can't schedule it's services properly.
Of course, they are the first thing a bean counter looks at when trying to save some money when said service changes are a disaster.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm)streetdeckfan Surprised they're even wasting money on the formatted timetables.I think the formatted timetables are much better than the online ones, a PDF is much easier to read and less clunky to use. The formatted timetables allow people to simply print them off at home, at their own cost. Maybe places such as Libraries or Travel Centres (long gone!) could be able to print them on request in standard A4 for those that really need a paper version.
What's the point if they're not going to be printed!
(03 Jan 2023, 12:53 pm)streetdeckfan Surprised they're even wasting money on the formatted timetables.I think the formatted timetables are much better than the online ones, a PDF is much easier to read and less clunky to use. The formatted timetables allow people to simply print them off at home, at their own cost. Maybe places such as Libraries or Travel Centres (long gone!) could be able to print them on request in standard A4 for those that really need a paper version.
What's the point if they're not going to be printed!
Can I just ask, what exactly is everyone's problem with the timetables on the GNE website?
I've literally never had a problem using or understanding them, even on mobile.
The fact you can scroll the times while keeping the stops visible on the left makes it infinitely more readable than a PDF!