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Jimmi



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24 Mar 2024, 1:21 pm #3,581
(24 Mar 2024, 12:07 pm)Storx It's a shame someone couldn't use their brain and make Brafferton Lane, one way towards Aycliffe so there wouldn't be any time penalty at all...

No doubt everyone else, will be rat running along there regardless.

No doubt that will happen, be a nightmare trying to get round there as parts of that route ain't the widest either.

Buses aside, anyone with a brain and knowledge of the area would take alternative routes anyway to completely dodge it although this has been suddenly sprung on us with little to no communication, despite the bridge being coned off down to one lane for about 2 years now.
Jimmi
24 Mar 2024, 1:21 pm #3,581

(24 Mar 2024, 12:07 pm)Storx It's a shame someone couldn't use their brain and make Brafferton Lane, one way towards Aycliffe so there wouldn't be any time penalty at all...

No doubt everyone else, will be rat running along there regardless.

No doubt that will happen, be a nightmare trying to get round there as parts of that route ain't the widest either.

Buses aside, anyone with a brain and knowledge of the area would take alternative routes anyway to completely dodge it although this has been suddenly sprung on us with little to no communication, despite the bridge being coned off down to one lane for about 2 years now.

Storx



4,566
24 Mar 2024, 2:17 pm #3,582
(24 Mar 2024, 1:21 pm)Jimmi No doubt that will happen, be a nightmare trying to get round there as parts of that route ain't the widest either.

Buses aside, anyone with a brain and knowledge of the area would take alternative routes anyway to completely dodge it although this has been suddenly sprung on us with little to no communication, despite the bridge being coned off down to one lane for about 2 years now.

Yeah you're right there mind, I haven't seen it mentioned it anywhere and it's quite a big closure aswell considering it's the main route out of Darlington North and also to large parts of Teesside aswell without using the Sadberge / Great Stainton rat run.
Storx
24 Mar 2024, 2:17 pm #3,582

(24 Mar 2024, 1:21 pm)Jimmi No doubt that will happen, be a nightmare trying to get round there as parts of that route ain't the widest either.

Buses aside, anyone with a brain and knowledge of the area would take alternative routes anyway to completely dodge it although this has been suddenly sprung on us with little to no communication, despite the bridge being coned off down to one lane for about 2 years now.

Yeah you're right there mind, I haven't seen it mentioned it anywhere and it's quite a big closure aswell considering it's the main route out of Darlington North and also to large parts of Teesside aswell without using the Sadberge / Great Stainton rat run.

ross13



99
24 Mar 2024, 6:01 pm #3,583
(24 Mar 2024, 2:17 pm)Storx Yeah you're right there mind, I haven't seen it mentioned it anywhere and it's quite a big closure aswell considering it's the main route out of Darlington North and also to large parts of Teesside aswell without using the Sadberge / Great Stainton rat run.

Brafferton was considered as a diversion but the residents and Darlington borough council didn't want buses and hgvs going through especially if u meet on the little bridge then your stuck
ross13
24 Mar 2024, 6:01 pm #3,583

(24 Mar 2024, 2:17 pm)Storx Yeah you're right there mind, I haven't seen it mentioned it anywhere and it's quite a big closure aswell considering it's the main route out of Darlington North and also to large parts of Teesside aswell without using the Sadberge / Great Stainton rat run.

Brafferton was considered as a diversion but the residents and Darlington borough council didn't want buses and hgvs going through especially if u meet on the little bridge then your stuck

Storx



4,566
24 Mar 2024, 6:22 pm #3,584
(24 Mar 2024, 6:01 pm)ross13 Brafferton was considered as a diversion but the residents and Darlington borough council didn't want buses and hgvs going through especially if u meet on the little bridge then your stuck

Aye it's a shame they couldn't have made it one way tbh and banned HGV's along it or even everyone 'except for access' like they've done in other areas so the Brafferton lot can still get along.

It's going to be a nightmare because, let's be honest, anyone local will be going along it anyway tbh.
Storx
24 Mar 2024, 6:22 pm #3,584

(24 Mar 2024, 6:01 pm)ross13 Brafferton was considered as a diversion but the residents and Darlington borough council didn't want buses and hgvs going through especially if u meet on the little bridge then your stuck

Aye it's a shame they couldn't have made it one way tbh and banned HGV's along it or even everyone 'except for access' like they've done in other areas so the Brafferton lot can still get along.

It's going to be a nightmare because, let's be honest, anyone local will be going along it anyway tbh.

Andreos1



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25 Mar 2024, 5:57 pm #3,585
https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/...1711360896

More on the new Saturday services

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
25 Mar 2024, 5:57 pm #3,585

https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/...1711360896

More on the new Saturday services


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

mb134



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25 Mar 2024, 6:43 pm #3,586
(25 Mar 2024, 5:57 pm)Andreos1 https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/...1711360896

More on the new Saturday services

Dropping countless runs per day on all their other services but can find the staff for this. Should be stripped of all recent contract awards given they can't run any of them without decimating their other services.

Quote from Head of Commercial Richard McGowan just over a year ago: "We are not going to try and achieve something we know we cannot do, we have learned our lessons from that." (https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/tran...es-3986555).  Evidently they have not learned their lessons.
Edited 25 Mar 2024, 6:50 pm by mb134.
mb134
25 Mar 2024, 6:43 pm #3,586

(25 Mar 2024, 5:57 pm)Andreos1 https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/...1711360896

More on the new Saturday services

Dropping countless runs per day on all their other services but can find the staff for this. Should be stripped of all recent contract awards given they can't run any of them without decimating their other services.

Quote from Head of Commercial Richard McGowan just over a year ago: "We are not going to try and achieve something we know we cannot do, we have learned our lessons from that." (https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/tran...es-3986555).  Evidently they have not learned their lessons.

26 Mar 2024, 7:39 am #3,587
(25 Mar 2024, 6:43 pm)mb134 Dropping countless runs per day on all their other services but can find the staff for this. Should be stripped of all recent contract awards given they can't run any of them without decimating their other services.

Thing is, if they're running all the contracted services, but dumping the commercial stuff to do it, the folks overseeing the contracts will have nothing to complain about, as the work is being correctly done.  The "passengers" on the commercial routes are well stuffed, but nothing's going to happen about that unless the Traffic Commissioner gets involved, which could take some time.
Ianthegoon
26 Mar 2024, 7:39 am #3,587

(25 Mar 2024, 6:43 pm)mb134 Dropping countless runs per day on all their other services but can find the staff for this. Should be stripped of all recent contract awards given they can't run any of them without decimating their other services.

Thing is, if they're running all the contracted services, but dumping the commercial stuff to do it, the folks overseeing the contracts will have nothing to complain about, as the work is being correctly done.  The "passengers" on the commercial routes are well stuffed, but nothing's going to happen about that unless the Traffic Commissioner gets involved, which could take some time.

mb134



4,144
26 Mar 2024, 9:19 am #3,588
(26 Mar 2024, 7:39 am)Ianthegoon Thing is, if they're running all the contracted services, but dumping the commercial stuff to do it, the folks overseeing the contracts will have nothing to complain about, as the work is being correctly done.  The "passengers" on the commercial routes are well stuffed, but nothing's going to happen about that unless the Traffic Commissioner gets involved, which could take some time.

The worst part is they're not even running all of the contracted services. Countless Morpeth 43 extensions (BSIP funded) and 57A extensions (BSIP funded) have been dropped over the past few weeks.
mb134
26 Mar 2024, 9:19 am #3,588

(26 Mar 2024, 7:39 am)Ianthegoon Thing is, if they're running all the contracted services, but dumping the commercial stuff to do it, the folks overseeing the contracts will have nothing to complain about, as the work is being correctly done.  The "passengers" on the commercial routes are well stuffed, but nothing's going to happen about that unless the Traffic Commissioner gets involved, which could take some time.

The worst part is they're not even running all of the contracted services. Countless Morpeth 43 extensions (BSIP funded) and 57A extensions (BSIP funded) have been dropped over the past few weeks.

Storx



4,566
26 Mar 2024, 9:27 am #3,589
(26 Mar 2024, 9:19 am)mb134 The worst part is they're not even running all of the contracted services. Countless Morpeth 43 extensions (BSIP funded) and 57A extensions (BSIP funded) have been dropped over the past few weeks.

Happy to be corrected but apart from a breakdown the other week, I don't believe there's been any cancellations on the 57A. Some of the buses, especially 1538, are just a bit dodgy on the tracking.

It's a bit of a mess today with multiple buses tracking on multiple routes, namely 1538 and 1574 plus two spare machines.
Edited 26 Mar 2024, 9:29 am by Storx.
Storx
26 Mar 2024, 9:27 am #3,589

(26 Mar 2024, 9:19 am)mb134 The worst part is they're not even running all of the contracted services. Countless Morpeth 43 extensions (BSIP funded) and 57A extensions (BSIP funded) have been dropped over the past few weeks.

Happy to be corrected but apart from a breakdown the other week, I don't believe there's been any cancellations on the 57A. Some of the buses, especially 1538, are just a bit dodgy on the tracking.

It's a bit of a mess today with multiple buses tracking on multiple routes, namely 1538 and 1574 plus two spare machines.

mb134



4,144
26 Mar 2024, 9:49 am #3,590
(26 Mar 2024, 9:27 am)Storx Happy to be corrected but apart from a breakdown the other week, I don't believe there's been any cancellations on the 57A. Some of the buses, especially 1538, are just a bit dodgy on the tracking.

It's a bit of a mess today with multiple buses tracking on multiple routes, namely 1538 and 1574 plus two spare machines.

From memory the other Saturday was particularly bad on the 57/A, with multiple 2 hour gaps. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the 43s, which got to the point that the same evening (contracted) trip was cancelled virtually daily. Agreed that it's not been as bad recently, but they certainly have dropped them.
mb134
26 Mar 2024, 9:49 am #3,590

(26 Mar 2024, 9:27 am)Storx Happy to be corrected but apart from a breakdown the other week, I don't believe there's been any cancellations on the 57A. Some of the buses, especially 1538, are just a bit dodgy on the tracking.

It's a bit of a mess today with multiple buses tracking on multiple routes, namely 1538 and 1574 plus two spare machines.

From memory the other Saturday was particularly bad on the 57/A, with multiple 2 hour gaps. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the 43s, which got to the point that the same evening (contracted) trip was cancelled virtually daily. Agreed that it's not been as bad recently, but they certainly have dropped them.

Storx



4,566
26 Mar 2024, 10:01 am #3,591
(26 Mar 2024, 9:49 am)mb134 From memory the other Saturday was particularly bad on the 57/A, with multiple 2 hour gaps. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the 43s, which got to the point that the same evening (contracted) trip was cancelled virtually daily. Agreed that it's not been as bad recently, but they certainly have dropped them.

Must've missed that day, I know it's generally been alright, which can't be said about the X7, the alternative round here. Seen there's an 90 minute gap at rush hour, again, tonight.

The 43 is a bit of a mess though mind, like everything else to be honest.
Storx
26 Mar 2024, 10:01 am #3,591

(26 Mar 2024, 9:49 am)mb134 From memory the other Saturday was particularly bad on the 57/A, with multiple 2 hour gaps. It's certainly nowhere near as bad as the 43s, which got to the point that the same evening (contracted) trip was cancelled virtually daily. Agreed that it's not been as bad recently, but they certainly have dropped them.

Must've missed that day, I know it's generally been alright, which can't be said about the X7, the alternative round here. Seen there's an 90 minute gap at rush hour, again, tonight.

The 43 is a bit of a mess though mind, like everything else to be honest.

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