Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Christmas shopping in Newcastle - extra X34 journeys - these will start 15/11/2015.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/getTimetab...de=XMAX034&dir=OUTBOUND&date=30%2f12%2f2015 - Timetable.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=3722
PB0002404/12 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle City Centre and Newcastle City Centre given service number X63 effective from 10-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
Stagecoach have started to put their Christmas info on the site:
Note its different on all the links for services - so here are the separate links for the area's: (No timetables for last buses on Christmas Eve and New Years Eve)
Hartlepool - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7585
Teeside - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7584
Newcastle - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7583
Sunderland - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7591
South Shields - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7590
(20 Nov 2015, 1:12 pm)Michael Stagecoach have started to put their Christmas info on the site:
Note its different on all the links for services - so here are the separate links for the area's: (No timetables for last buses on Christmas Eve and New Years Eve)
Hartlepool - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7585
Teeside - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7584
Newcastle - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7583
Sunderland - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7591
South Shields - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7590
(20 Nov 2015, 1:12 pm)Michael Stagecoach have started to put their Christmas info on the site:
Note its different on all the links for services - so here are the separate links for the area's: (No timetables for last buses on Christmas Eve and New Years Eve)
Hartlepool - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7585
Teeside - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7584
Newcastle - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7583
Sunderland - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7591
South Shields - https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-servic...px?id=7590
(20 Nov 2015, 8:02 pm)Adrian It's comical that two principal operators, between them, can't come up with even the most basic level of service for Teesside. It plays right into the hands of the pro-regulation argument imo.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:02 pm)Adrian It's comical that two principal operators, between them, can't come up with even the most basic level of service for Teesside. It plays right into the hands of the pro-regulation argument imo.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:51 pm)DanPicken Or South Shields their only serving Biddick, Whiteleas and Jarrow and E2/6 leaving others busless relying on hourly 5 or half- Hourly 88. Feel sorry for anyone South of Sunderland/ Seaham left busless while other places have plenty.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:51 pm)DanPicken Or South Shields their only serving Biddick, Whiteleas and Jarrow and E2/6 leaving others busless relying on hourly 5 or half- Hourly 88. Feel sorry for anyone South of Sunderland/ Seaham left busless while other places have plenty.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:54 pm)Adrian I can't see the issue with having to rely on a hourly or half hourly service? It's more than sufficient for the amount of people travelling on a boxing day, given that South Tyneside is also served by the Metro.
Which areas are left without buses in Shields?
(20 Nov 2015, 8:54 pm)Adrian I can't see the issue with having to rely on a hourly or half hourly service? It's more than sufficient for the amount of people travelling on a boxing day, given that South Tyneside is also served by the Metro.
Which areas are left without buses in Shields?
(20 Nov 2015, 8:58 pm)DanPicken Stagecoach-wise - Brockley Whins, Fellgate, The Lonnen/Watson Avenue. A Metro which will fail or have LRA.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:58 pm)DanPicken Stagecoach-wise - Brockley Whins, Fellgate, The Lonnen/Watson Avenue. A Metro which will fail or have LRA.
(20 Nov 2015, 9:03 pm)Adrian But with the default position being that there's a Metro service, then Brockley Whins and Fellgate both have a regular through service. Appreciate the reliability isn't great as of late, but there you go.
Is the Lonnen in the Cleadon area? If so, it's not too far to walk to the main road, for either 1/2/E6?
(20 Nov 2015, 9:03 pm)Adrian But with the default position being that there's a Metro service, then Brockley Whins and Fellgate both have a regular through service. Appreciate the reliability isn't great as of late, but there you go.
Is the Lonnen in the Cleadon area? If so, it's not too far to walk to the main road, for either 1/2/E6?
(20 Nov 2015, 8:59 pm)mrnut85 Boxing Day services in Tyne and Wear are subsidised by Nexus as there is no economical viability in operating services on this day
(20 Nov 2015, 8:59 pm)mrnut85 Boxing Day services in Tyne and Wear are subsidised by Nexus as there is no economical viability in operating services on this day
(21 Nov 2015, 6:43 am)Dan Not all Boxing Day services are subsidised by Nexus. Only some are, and this number seems to reduce year on year.
Indeed; this year we will see Go North East services, which have previously been subsidised, operated on a commercial basis! How come Go North East can see a commercial opportunity when the usual operator, Arriva, seemingly cannot?
I honestly can't understand how one operator manages to make a nice profit out of operating some services on a Boxing Day, and increases their PVR year on year to improve services, yet the other two big boys seem to struggle.
(21 Nov 2015, 6:43 am)Dan Not all Boxing Day services are subsidised by Nexus. Only some are, and this number seems to reduce year on year.
Indeed; this year we will see Go North East services, which have previously been subsidised, operated on a commercial basis! How come Go North East can see a commercial opportunity when the usual operator, Arriva, seemingly cannot?
I honestly can't understand how one operator manages to make a nice profit out of operating some services on a Boxing Day, and increases their PVR year on year to improve services, yet the other two big boys seem to struggle.
(21 Nov 2015, 11:10 am)Michael Shame they couldn't have the 35A travel all the way to Heworth.....
(21 Nov 2015, 11:10 am)Michael Shame they couldn't have the 35A travel all the way to Heworth.....
(21 Nov 2015, 11:42 am)Dan
As in previous years, the Sunderland - Castletown - Downhill section of that service is secured.
The usual 'extension' of the service from Town End Farm and Boldon is secured by Nexus anyway, so they are responsible for deciding whether there is demand to provide that service.
(21 Nov 2015, 11:42 am)Dan
As in previous years, the Sunderland - Castletown - Downhill section of that service is secured.
The usual 'extension' of the service from Town End Farm and Boldon is secured by Nexus anyway, so they are responsible for deciding whether there is demand to provide that service.
(21 Nov 2015, 11:45 am)Michael So not all of GNE's services are ran commercial this year?
Would be nice of GNE to just run at least 1 bus hourly to Heworth.... shame NEXUS have control over that.....
(21 Nov 2015, 11:45 am)Michael So not all of GNE's services are ran commercial this year?
Would be nice of GNE to just run at least 1 bus hourly to Heworth.... shame NEXUS have control over that.....
(21 Nov 2015, 12:01 pm)Dan No - I should have been clearer in my previous post by stating 'some'. The Arriva North East 44 and 45 services to Dinnington are a prime example of a service being secured by Nexus on Boxing Day in previous years, but this year will be operated on a commercial basis (morphed into Go North East's Q3 service). I'd suggest that the demand is likely to be there given that NUFC are playing at home.
Perhaps in the future Go North East will operate the extension to Heworth commercially - there'd be nothing stopping them from doing it, but given that it's usually secured by Nexus on evenings and Sundays, I can't see there being sufficient demand to supply this service (especially if Nexus thinks that too!) Each year has seen a new commercial risk taken by Go North East: last year it was extending the 4 from Fallowfield Way to Houghton-le-Spring (via Fencehouses) once per hour, which has notably been continued this year, and this year sees Boxing Day services go to places such as Bishop Auckland, Cramlington and Sacriston, which hasn't been done in a very long time.
(21 Nov 2015, 12:01 pm)Dan No - I should have been clearer in my previous post by stating 'some'. The Arriva North East 44 and 45 services to Dinnington are a prime example of a service being secured by Nexus on Boxing Day in previous years, but this year will be operated on a commercial basis (morphed into Go North East's Q3 service). I'd suggest that the demand is likely to be there given that NUFC are playing at home.
Perhaps in the future Go North East will operate the extension to Heworth commercially - there'd be nothing stopping them from doing it, but given that it's usually secured by Nexus on evenings and Sundays, I can't see there being sufficient demand to supply this service (especially if Nexus thinks that too!) Each year has seen a new commercial risk taken by Go North East: last year it was extending the 4 from Fallowfield Way to Houghton-le-Spring (via Fencehouses) once per hour, which has notably been continued this year, and this year sees Boxing Day services go to places such as Bishop Auckland, Cramlington and Sacriston, which hasn't been done in a very long time.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:02 pm)Adrian It's comical that two principal operators, between them, can't come up with even the most basic level of service for Teesside. It plays right into the hands of the pro-regulation argument imo.
(20 Nov 2015, 8:02 pm)Adrian It's comical that two principal operators, between them, can't come up with even the most basic level of service for Teesside. It plays right into the hands of the pro-regulation argument imo.
(21 Nov 2015, 12:10 pm)Michael It would be good if they did take a risk one year, the one thing what annoys me is though is that the bigger bus companies seem to be worrying more about profits than the passengers and where people need to be.... Arriva is the biggest example of that.
Its good that GNE are expanding their services on boxing day and hopefully this increases every year.
(21 Nov 2015, 12:10 pm)Michael It would be good if they did take a risk one year, the one thing what annoys me is though is that the bigger bus companies seem to be worrying more about profits than the passengers and where people need to be.... Arriva is the biggest example of that.
Its good that GNE are expanding their services on boxing day and hopefully this increases every year.
