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RBZ 5459

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06 Apr 2017, 7:40 pm #921

(06 Apr 2017, 6:17 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Coming soon to the A19 near you?

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RBZ 5459

06 Apr 2017, 7:40 pm #921

(06 Apr 2017, 6:17 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Coming soon to the A19 near you?

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Michael

19,168

10 Apr 2017, 9:10 am #922

PB0002404/89 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle, Pilgrim Street to Horsley Hill
Service number: X34 (X34)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/29 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Mile End Road to South Shields The Lonnen
Service number: 12ss (12)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Market to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/74 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Brockley whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/23 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Market to Whiteleas Estate
Service number: 17 (17)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/31 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Biddick Hall to Crompton Parkinson
Service number: 574 (574)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/21 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Biddick Hall Estate
Service number: 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

10 Apr 2017, 9:10 am #922

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L

993

10 Apr 2017, 12:46 pm #923

(10 Apr 2017, 9:10 am)Michael PB0002404/89 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle, Pilgrim Street to Horsley Hill
Service number: X34 (X34)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/29 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Mile End Road to South Shields The Lonnen
Service number: 12ss (12)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Market to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/74 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Brockley whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/23 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Market to Whiteleas Estate
Service number: 17 (17)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/31 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Biddick Hall to Crompton Parkinson
Service number: 574 (574)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/21 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Biddick Hall Estate
Service number: 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

Looks like the only services not listed at the moment are services 10 /11 (which interiworks with 30 that is listed) and works service 575.

LVK 404L

10 Apr 2017, 12:46 pm #923

(10 Apr 2017, 9:10 am)Michael PB0002404/89 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Newcastle, Pilgrim Street to Horsley Hill
Service number: X34 (X34)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/29 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Mile End Road to South Shields The Lonnen
Service number: 12ss (12)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/22 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Market to Marsden
Service number: 78 (7, 8)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/74 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E6 (E6)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/57 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Sunderland to South Shields
Service number: E1E2 (E1, E2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/264 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Fellgate Estate
Service number: X20 (X20)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/25 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields to Boldon
Service number: 30 (30)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/44 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Brockley whins
Service number: 18ss (18)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/23 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Market to Whiteleas Estate
Service number: 17 (17)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/31 Cancelled
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: Biddick Hall to Crompton Parkinson
Service number: 574 (574)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

PB0002404/21 Registered
BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD
Route: South Shields Town Centre to Biddick Hall Estate
Service number: 1234 (1, 2, 3, 4)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017

Looks like the only services not listed at the moment are services 10 /11 (which interiworks with 30 that is listed) and works service 575.

Mark1

11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am #924

Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Mark1

11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am #924

Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Michael

19,168

11 Apr 2017, 7:48 am #925

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Surprised that the E services are getting dropped from Park Lane and terminating at John Street and Fawcett Street.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

11 Apr 2017, 7:48 am #925

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Surprised that the E services are getting dropped from Park Lane and terminating at John Street and Fawcett Street.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Kuyoyo

6,853

11 Apr 2017, 7:48 am #926

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Also mentioned:

12: Minor timetable changes, evening service withdrawn (was nearly cut back to hourly)
E1/E2/E6: Revised terminus in Sunderland - now on John Street and Fawcett Street rather than serving Park Lane

Kuyoyo

11 Apr 2017, 7:48 am #926

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Also mentioned:

12: Minor timetable changes, evening service withdrawn (was nearly cut back to hourly)
E1/E2/E6: Revised terminus in Sunderland - now on John Street and Fawcett Street rather than serving Park Lane

RBZ 5459

1,097

11 Apr 2017, 7:56 am #927

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Should be seven buses coming out.

Stockton's turn next...

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RBZ 5459

11 Apr 2017, 7:56 am #927

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Should be seven buses coming out.

Stockton's turn next...

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Michael

19,168

11 Apr 2017, 8:05 am #928

(11 Apr 2017, 7:56 am)RBZ 5459 Should be seven buses coming out.

Stockton's turn next...

Oh dear...... not sure what they could cut/change for Stockton's services, don't know much about them haha

Wonder if the people from the Go North East thread who moan about that they constantly cut services will appear here!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

11 Apr 2017, 8:05 am #928

(11 Apr 2017, 7:56 am)RBZ 5459 Should be seven buses coming out.

Stockton's turn next...

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L

993

11 Apr 2017, 8:56 am #929

What happened to consultation for South Shields though. Sunderland and Newcastle passengers all got a say but South Shields don't get an opinion.

LVK 404L

11 Apr 2017, 8:56 am #929

What happened to consultation for South Shields though. Sunderland and Newcastle passengers all got a say but South Shields don't get an opinion.

RBZ 5459

1,097

11 Apr 2017, 9:38 am #930

(11 Apr 2017, 8:56 am)ifm001 What happened to consultation for South Shields though. Sunderland and Newcastle passengers all got a say but South Shields don't get an opinion.

Hasn't been ruled out yet, but I doubt it given the changes in comparison to Newcastle, with the changes there more drastic to the network structure and re-routing - rather than just re-timings. Also to note, the three public consultation of the Newcastle network were announced shortly after it made the press.

Edited 11 Apr 2017, 9:40 am by RBZ 5459.

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RBZ 5459

11 Apr 2017, 9:38 am #930

(11 Apr 2017, 8:56 am)ifm001 What happened to consultation for South Shields though. Sunderland and Newcastle passengers all got a say but South Shields don't get an opinion.

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markydh

258

11 Apr 2017, 9:39 am #931

(11 Apr 2017, 8:05 am)Michael Oh dear...... not sure what they could cut/change for Stockton's services, don't know much about them haha

Wonder if the people from the Go North East thread who moan about that they constantly cut services will appear here!

Why would they? Stagecoach don't constantly cut services! Newcastle has just had its first major service review since 2003...

markydh

11 Apr 2017, 9:39 am #931

(11 Apr 2017, 8:05 am)Michael Oh dear...... not sure what they could cut/change for Stockton's services, don't know much about them haha

Wonder if the people from the Go North East thread who moan about that they constantly cut services will appear here!

Why would they? Stagecoach don't constantly cut services! Newcastle has just had its first major service review since 2003...

LVK 404L

993

11 Apr 2017, 10:03 am #932

(11 Apr 2017, 9:38 am)RBZ 5459 Hasn't been ruled out yet, but I doubt it given the changes in comparison to Newcastle, with the changes there more drastic to the network structure and re-routing - rather than just re-timings. Also to note, the three public consultation of the Newcastle network were announced shortly after it made the press.

Yes but as we know the changes have already been submitted on Vosa so consultation most likely not going to take place

LVK 404L

11 Apr 2017, 10:03 am #932

(11 Apr 2017, 9:38 am)RBZ 5459 Hasn't been ruled out yet, but I doubt it given the changes in comparison to Newcastle, with the changes there more drastic to the network structure and re-routing - rather than just re-timings. Also to note, the three public consultation of the Newcastle network were announced shortly after it made the press.

Yes but as we know the changes have already been submitted on Vosa so consultation most likely not going to take place

RBZ 5459

1,097

11 Apr 2017, 10:30 am #933

(11 Apr 2017, 10:03 am)ifm001 Yes but as we know the changes have already been submitted on Vosa so consultation most likely not going to take place

As were the Newcastle ones. Submissions to VOSA at the start of March with the last public consultation only being last week - in fact a further variation to the Newcastle 10/11 went in this week.

Edited 11 Apr 2017, 10:38 am by RBZ 5459.

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RBZ 5459

11 Apr 2017, 10:30 am #933

(11 Apr 2017, 10:03 am)ifm001 Yes but as we know the changes have already been submitted on Vosa so consultation most likely not going to take place

As were the Newcastle ones. Submissions to VOSA at the start of March with the last public consultation only being last week - in fact a further variation to the Newcastle 10/11 went in this week.

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Ds1197

506

11 Apr 2017, 11:04 am #934

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Does that mean the X20 and the 30 will interinterwork when the changes come into a effect.

Ds1197

11 Apr 2017, 11:04 am #934

(11 Apr 2017, 7:44 am)Mark1 Service cuts in South Shields to 3,4,7,8 (every 12mins) and 30 and X20 (hourly)

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/use-i...-1-8486252

Does that mean the X20 and the 30 will interinterwork when the changes come into a effect.

Andreos1

14,218

11 Apr 2017, 11:22 am #935

(11 Apr 2017, 8:05 am)Michael Oh dear...... not sure what they could cut/change for Stockton's services, don't know much about them haha

Wonder if the people from the Go North East thread who moan about that they constantly cut services will appear here!

Whilst not condoning the cuts at all, maybe the number of people affected will be smaller?
Will the cuts lead to passengers having to use multiple buses and as result see them paying more to get somewhere, following the axing of direct links?

The answer to those questions, may answer your own.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

11 Apr 2017, 11:22 am #935

(11 Apr 2017, 8:05 am)Michael Oh dear...... not sure what they could cut/change for Stockton's services, don't know much about them haha

Wonder if the people from the Go North East thread who moan about that they constantly cut services will appear here!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Cock Robin

2,778

11 Apr 2017, 12:00 pm #936

(11 Apr 2017, 10:30 am)RBZ 5459 As were the Newcastle ones. Submissions to VOSA at the start of March with the last public consultation only being last week - in fact a further variation to the Newcastle 10/11 went in this week.

That is abuse of the system. Should not be allowed to cut services giving the 56 days notice and then be allowed to get dispensation to add them back on bit by bit. Dispensation should be for exceptional/unforeseen circumstances.

Cock Robin

11 Apr 2017, 12:00 pm #936

(11 Apr 2017, 10:30 am)RBZ 5459 As were the Newcastle ones. Submissions to VOSA at the start of March with the last public consultation only being last week - in fact a further variation to the Newcastle 10/11 went in this week.

AIG20

378

11 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm #937

(11 Apr 2017, 7:48 am)Kuyoyo Also mentioned:

12: Minor timetable changes, evening service withdrawn (was nearly cut back to hourly)

E1/E2/E6: Revised terminus in Sunderland - now on John Street and Fawcett Street rather than serving Park Lane

I wonder what the surplus ADL E300s will be used on assuming a few less vehicles will be needed when the changes take effect.

I assume 39701/07/08 & 37143/4 will be a few of the vehicles that will be transferring elsewhere.

Edited 11 Apr 2017, 4:07 pm by AIG20.

AIG20

11 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm #937

(11 Apr 2017, 7:48 am)Kuyoyo Also mentioned:

12: Minor timetable changes, evening service withdrawn (was nearly cut back to hourly)

E1/E2/E6: Revised terminus in Sunderland - now on John Street and Fawcett Street rather than serving Park Lane

Ds1197

506

11 Apr 2017, 4:11 pm #938

We still don't know the change to the X34 in June

Ds1197

11 Apr 2017, 4:11 pm #938

We still don't know the change to the X34 in June

missedbus

121

11 Apr 2017, 4:54 pm #939

(11 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm)AIG20 I wonder what the surplus ADL E300s will be used on assuming a few less vehicles will be needed when the changes take effect.

I assume 39701/07/08 & 37143/4 will be a few of the vehicles that will be transferring elsewhere.

There might not be many surplus E300s, or indeed any, as the E1/E2/E6 services currently struggle to keep to time at all times of day, and this might be a way of improving reliability but not increasing resources. It may result in regulation and time correcting being less common on those routes. Costs of operation will still drop as this takes Stagecoach out of Sunderland Interchange completely, thus saving on departure charges.

I reckon the 30 and X20 will interwork with the 10 and 11 at opposite half hours. No reductions have been announced for any other routes apart from 3/4/7/8. X34 might be a timing change for some trips, as I know the first trip to Newcastle Monday to Friday mornings is often late arriving at Pilgrim Street.

Edited 11 Apr 2017, 5:03 pm by missedbus.

missedbus

11 Apr 2017, 4:54 pm #939

(11 Apr 2017, 3:55 pm)AIG20 I wonder what the surplus ADL E300s will be used on assuming a few less vehicles will be needed when the changes take effect.

I assume 39701/07/08 & 37143/4 will be a few of the vehicles that will be transferring elsewhere.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

11 Apr 2017, 7:58 pm #940

(11 Apr 2017, 4:54 pm)missedbus There might not be many surplus E300s, or indeed any, as the E1/E2/E6 services currently struggle to keep to time at all times of day, and this might be a way of improving reliability but not increasing resources. It may result in regulation and time correcting being less common on those routes. Costs of operation will still drop as this takes Stagecoach out of Sunderland Interchange completely, thus saving on departure charges.

I reckon the 30 and X20 will interwork with the 10 and 11 at opposite half hours. No reductions have been announced for any other routes apart from 3/4/7/8. X34 might be a timing change for some trips, as I know the first trip to Newcastle Monday to Friday mornings is often late arriving at Pilgrim Street.

Indeed, The new terminus of the E1/2/6 will not affect the PVR, But will probably add a extra min or two to layover period they get in Sunderland, Reducing the frequency of the E's would be a catastrophe.

Bear in mind the Lindisfarne Roadwork's don't conclude to around the middle of August, And that the 10/11 are now split into the 10A/B - 11A/B during the day, So I would expect these to go standalone until the roadworks end to give extra running time/layover at the Shields end.

30 and X20 are expected to be going hourly, So these would be likely interwork.

Edited 11 Apr 2017, 8:00 pm by South Tyne Lad.

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South Tyne Lad

11 Apr 2017, 7:58 pm #940

(11 Apr 2017, 4:54 pm)missedbus There might not be many surplus E300s, or indeed any, as the E1/E2/E6 services currently struggle to keep to time at all times of day, and this might be a way of improving reliability but not increasing resources. It may result in regulation and time correcting being less common on those routes. Costs of operation will still drop as this takes Stagecoach out of Sunderland Interchange completely, thus saving on departure charges.

I reckon the 30 and X20 will interwork with the 10 and 11 at opposite half hours. No reductions have been announced for any other routes apart from 3/4/7/8. X34 might be a timing change for some trips, as I know the first trip to Newcastle Monday to Friday mornings is often late arriving at Pilgrim Street.

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