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Busu284



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14 Jul 2023, 6:33 pm #2,201
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:43:21:444#

6/7/39/40 changes out

Just minor timetable change
Busu284
14 Jul 2023, 6:33 pm #2,201

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:43:21:444#

6/7/39/40 changes out

Just minor timetable change

Dan

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18,122
14 Jul 2023, 7:13 pm #2,202
(14 Jul 2023, 5:17 pm)Michael Changes to Sunderland services 99 & 939 from Monday 24 July 2023


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:19:48:945


looks like Stagecoach are still running the 6:55am from Sunderland Interchange and 16:38pm from Teams Valley


The contract for those two journeys on the 939 renews in September.

Shouldn’t be too long before operators find out the results of those contracts.


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Dan
14 Jul 2023, 7:13 pm #2,202

(14 Jul 2023, 5:17 pm)Michael Changes to Sunderland services 99 & 939 from Monday 24 July 2023


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:19:48:945


looks like Stagecoach are still running the 6:55am from Sunderland Interchange and 16:38pm from Teams Valley


The contract for those two journeys on the 939 renews in September.

Shouldn’t be too long before operators find out the results of those contracts.


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14 Jul 2023, 7:44 pm #2,203
(14 Jul 2023, 6:33 pm)Busu284 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:43:21:444#

6/7/39/40 changes out

Just minor timetable change

I’m happy that the service for the 39/40 on a Sunday has increased to 10 mins it is going to massively increase when they come so I don’t have to wait an extremely long 20 mins.
BusEnthusiast.com
14 Jul 2023, 7:44 pm #2,203

(14 Jul 2023, 6:33 pm)Busu284 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:43:21:444#

6/7/39/40 changes out

Just minor timetable change

I’m happy that the service for the 39/40 on a Sunday has increased to 10 mins it is going to massively increase when they come so I don’t have to wait an extremely long 20 mins.

pbjd



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15 Jul 2023, 6:29 am #2,204
(14 Jul 2023, 7:44 pm)BusEnthusiast.com I’m happy that the service for the 39/40 on a Sunday has increased to 10 mins it is going to massively increase when they come so I don’t have to wait an extremely long 20 mins.


They’re still operating every 20 minutes each, otherwise it’d mean they’d be more frequent On a Sunday then the rest of the week.


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pbjd
15 Jul 2023, 6:29 am #2,204

(14 Jul 2023, 7:44 pm)BusEnthusiast.com I’m happy that the service for the 39/40 on a Sunday has increased to 10 mins it is going to massively increase when they come so I don’t have to wait an extremely long 20 mins.


They’re still operating every 20 minutes each, otherwise it’d mean they’d be more frequent On a Sunday then the rest of the week.


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15 Jul 2023, 9:16 am #2,205
(15 Jul 2023, 6:29 am)pbjd They’re still operating every 20 minutes each, otherwise it’d mean they’d be more frequent On a Sunday then the rest of the week.


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I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

(15 Jul 2023, 6:29 am)pbjd They’re still operating every 20 minutes each, otherwise it’d mean they’d be more frequent On a Sunday then the rest of the week.


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I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.
Edited 15 Jul 2023, 9:16 am by BusEnthusiast.com.
BusEnthusiast.com
15 Jul 2023, 9:16 am #2,205

(15 Jul 2023, 6:29 am)pbjd They’re still operating every 20 minutes each, otherwise it’d mean they’d be more frequent On a Sunday then the rest of the week.


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I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

(15 Jul 2023, 6:29 am)pbjd They’re still operating every 20 minutes each, otherwise it’d mean they’d be more frequent On a Sunday then the rest of the week.


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I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

V514DFT



2,249
15 Jul 2023, 6:23 pm #2,206
(15 Jul 2023, 9:16 am)BusEnthusiast.com I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

39 Walker- Dumpling Hall
40 Wallsend- Chapel House
combined section is Welbeck Road- Lemington Road Ends, hope this helps

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
15 Jul 2023, 6:23 pm #2,206

(15 Jul 2023, 9:16 am)BusEnthusiast.com I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

I take any I don’t go to a different place. I don’t use the ones direct to Walker or Wallsend nor Chapel House or Dumpling shall I just take what comes first.

39 Walker- Dumpling Hall
40 Wallsend- Chapel House
combined section is Welbeck Road- Lemington Road Ends, hope this helps


Kind Regards
Tez

16 Jul 2023, 6:31 am #2,207
Question is 10000 getting a repaint?
BusEnthusiast.com
16 Jul 2023, 6:31 am #2,207

Question is 10000 getting a repaint?

Michael



19,175
21 Jul 2023, 5:45 pm #2,209
Changes for the 3rd September 2023: I take it this is due to school contract changes?


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011ss (11, 10) South Shields Interchange North Shields Interchange

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 87, 72) Grainger Street Chapel Park, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

PB0002404/77
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X1 (X1) Sunderland John Street Doxford International

PB0002404/18
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18A, 18) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/385
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 (18) Benton Estate or Quorum Walker

PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Killingworth

PB0002404/388
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 317 (317) Wallsend Whitley Bay

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington

PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23) Dene Estate Thorney Close

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Michael
21 Jul 2023, 5:45 pm #2,209

Changes for the 3rd September 2023: I take it this is due to school contract changes?


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011ss (11, 10) South Shields Interchange North Shields Interchange

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 87, 72) Grainger Street Chapel Park, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

PB0002404/77
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X1 (X1) Sunderland John Street Doxford International

PB0002404/18
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18A, 18) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/385
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 (18) Benton Estate or Quorum Walker

PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Killingworth

PB0002404/388
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 317 (317) Wallsend Whitley Bay

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington

PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23) Dene Estate Thorney Close


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

pbjd



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21 Jul 2023, 5:48 pm #2,210
(21 Jul 2023, 5:45 pm)Michael Changes for the 3rd September 2023: I take it this is due school contract changes?


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011ss (11, 10) South Shields Interchange North Shields Interchange

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 87, 72) Grainger Street Chapel Park, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

PB0002404/77
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X1 (X1) Sunderland John Street Doxford International

PB0002404/18
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18A, 18) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/385
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 (18) Benton Estate or Quorum Walker

PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Killingworth

PB0002404/388
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 317 (317) Wallsend Whitley Bay

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington

PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23) Dene Estate Thorney Close


Interesting to note service 37 Whickham View to Cramlington appearing , suspect some are schools and others timings as there’s no way the SS 10/11 will have schools put on them given they’re a contract between Low Simonside and North Shields.


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pbjd
21 Jul 2023, 5:48 pm #2,210

(21 Jul 2023, 5:45 pm)Michael Changes for the 3rd September 2023: I take it this is due school contract changes?


PB0002404/41
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011ss (11, 10) South Shields Interchange North Shields Interchange

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 87, 72) Grainger Street Chapel Park, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

PB0002404/77
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X1 (X1) Sunderland John Street Doxford International

PB0002404/18
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1819 (18A, 18) Sunderland Grangetown or Gilley Law

PB0002404/385
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 (18) Benton Estate or Quorum Walker

PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Killingworth

PB0002404/388
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 317 (317) Wallsend Whitley Bay

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 373838A (38A, 38, 37) Whickham View Freeman Hospital, Forest Hall and Cramlington

PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23) Dene Estate Thorney Close


Interesting to note service 37 Whickham View to Cramlington appearing , suspect some are schools and others timings as there’s no way the SS 10/11 will have schools put on them given they’re a contract between Low Simonside and North Shields.


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Dan

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21 Jul 2023, 6:23 pm #2,211
(21 Jul 2023, 5:48 pm)pbjd Interesting to note service 37 Whickham View to Cramlington appearing , suspect some are schools and others timings as there’s no way the SS 10/11 will have schools put on them given they’re a contract between Low Simonside and North Shields.


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This suggests that Stagecoach are also looking to replace the Arriva North East 52 service to Cramlington and 55 service to Forest Hall, as a 37 and 38A respectively.

Interesting move after Go North East had already registered the 352 - 355 services.


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Dan
21 Jul 2023, 6:23 pm #2,211

(21 Jul 2023, 5:48 pm)pbjd Interesting to note service 37 Whickham View to Cramlington appearing , suspect some are schools and others timings as there’s no way the SS 10/11 will have schools put on them given they’re a contract between Low Simonside and North Shields.


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This suggests that Stagecoach are also looking to replace the Arriva North East 52 service to Cramlington and 55 service to Forest Hall, as a 37 and 38A respectively.

Interesting move after Go North East had already registered the 352 - 355 services.


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pbjd



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21 Jul 2023, 6:35 pm #2,212
(21 Jul 2023, 6:23 pm)Dan This suggests that Stagecoach are also looking to replace the Arriva North East 52 service to Cramlington and 55 service to Forest Hall, as a 37 and 38A respectively.

Interesting move after Go North East had already registered the 352 - 355 services.


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Believe Forest Hall will still operate as service 38 as it previously did when the service was first introduced hence internally known as Benton, with the 38A being its current 3 trips on a morning. Will be interesting to see the fate of the current FLE trips on weekend mornings as I can’t see them being kept when Forest Hall becomes a terminus.


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pbjd
21 Jul 2023, 6:35 pm #2,212

(21 Jul 2023, 6:23 pm)Dan This suggests that Stagecoach are also looking to replace the Arriva North East 52 service to Cramlington and 55 service to Forest Hall, as a 37 and 38A respectively.

Interesting move after Go North East had already registered the 352 - 355 services.


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Believe Forest Hall will still operate as service 38 as it previously did when the service was first introduced hence internally known as Benton, with the 38A being its current 3 trips on a morning. Will be interesting to see the fate of the current FLE trips on weekend mornings as I can’t see them being kept when Forest Hall becomes a terminus.


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Storx



4,614
21 Jul 2023, 6:38 pm #2,213
(21 Jul 2023, 6:35 pm)pbjd Believe Forest Hall will still operate as service 38 as it previously did when the service was first introduced hence internally known as Benton, with the 38A being its current 3 trips on a morning. Will be interesting to see the fate of the current FLE trips on weekend mornings as I can’t see them being kept when Forest Hall becomes a terminus.


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They'll be replaced by 37's or stay the same I'd guess. They only exist when the 52 doesn't exist to keep the Freeman to FLE link.
Storx
21 Jul 2023, 6:38 pm #2,213

(21 Jul 2023, 6:35 pm)pbjd Believe Forest Hall will still operate as service 38 as it previously did when the service was first introduced hence internally known as Benton, with the 38A being its current 3 trips on a morning. Will be interesting to see the fate of the current FLE trips on weekend mornings as I can’t see them being kept when Forest Hall becomes a terminus.


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They'll be replaced by 37's or stay the same I'd guess. They only exist when the 52 doesn't exist to keep the Freeman to FLE link.

markydh



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21 Jul 2023, 7:28 pm #2,214
I know that the final decision by Arriva to withdraw all these services wasn’t made until relatively recently, but I wonder if these extensions to the 38 are the reason extra E400 MMCs were diverted from the South West? Both Newcastle depots were already struggling to cover all the daily decker PVR and have struggled with this for a long time.
markydh
21 Jul 2023, 7:28 pm #2,214

I know that the final decision by Arriva to withdraw all these services wasn’t made until relatively recently, but I wonder if these extensions to the 38 are the reason extra E400 MMCs were diverted from the South West? Both Newcastle depots were already struggling to cover all the daily decker PVR and have struggled with this for a long time.

V514DFT



2,249
21 Jul 2023, 9:51 pm #2,215
Wow back to my childhood of the 38 serving Forest Hall again

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
21 Jul 2023, 9:51 pm #2,215

Wow back to my childhood of the 38 serving Forest Hall again


Kind Regards
Tez

busmanT



933
22 Jul 2023, 7:12 am #2,216
(21 Jul 2023, 6:35 pm)pbjd Believe Forest Hall will still operate as service 38 as it previously did when the service was first introduced hence internally known as Benton, with the 38A being its current 3 trips on a morning. Will be interesting to see the fate of the current FLE trips on weekend mornings as I can’t see them being kept when Forest Hall becomes a terminus.


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A "bus war" in Forest Hall of all places!!
busmanT
22 Jul 2023, 7:12 am #2,216

(21 Jul 2023, 6:35 pm)pbjd Believe Forest Hall will still operate as service 38 as it previously did when the service was first introduced hence internally known as Benton, with the 38A being its current 3 trips on a morning. Will be interesting to see the fate of the current FLE trips on weekend mornings as I can’t see them being kept when Forest Hall becomes a terminus.


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A "bus war" in Forest Hall of all places!!

Rob44



1,514
22 Jul 2023, 7:51 am #2,217
how come its taken arriva to pull of of this area for stagecoach and GNE to start a sop called bus war? Are they both frightened of the power of this german owned company?
Rob44
22 Jul 2023, 7:51 am #2,217

how come its taken arriva to pull of of this area for stagecoach and GNE to start a sop called bus war? Are they both frightened of the power of this german owned company?

22 Jul 2023, 8:10 am #2,218
It might not be a bus war, could it not be the 2 operators working together to maintain the half hour frequency currently operated by Arriva? As the Go North East services are only operating hourly the 37/38 extensions might well be hourly too.
Dans_bus_photos
22 Jul 2023, 8:10 am #2,218

It might not be a bus war, could it not be the 2 operators working together to maintain the half hour frequency currently operated by Arriva? As the Go North East services are only operating hourly the 37/38 extensions might well be hourly too.

F114TML



909
22 Jul 2023, 8:22 am #2,219
Not sure about the other areas, but of the Sunderland ones, only the 18 interworks with a scholars now.

One may hope the 16 change is to even out the standing time at either end of the route (14 min at one end and 1 min at the other is a bit rediculous). Not sure what the 23 one's all about as it seems fine, maybe just giving a bit more running time and taking a bit of standing time (lol, they're probably taking a bus off and tightening the arse off it)? X1 will be to do with the changes on 16 and 23 no doubt, as it now interworks with both.
F114TML
22 Jul 2023, 8:22 am #2,219

Not sure about the other areas, but of the Sunderland ones, only the 18 interworks with a scholars now.

One may hope the 16 change is to even out the standing time at either end of the route (14 min at one end and 1 min at the other is a bit rediculous). Not sure what the 23 one's all about as it seems fine, maybe just giving a bit more running time and taking a bit of standing time (lol, they're probably taking a bus off and tightening the arse off it)? X1 will be to do with the changes on 16 and 23 no doubt, as it now interworks with both.

Michael



19,175
22 Jul 2023, 8:40 am #2,220
(22 Jul 2023, 8:22 am)F114TML Not sure about the other areas, but of the Sunderland ones, only the 18 interworks with a scholars now.

One may hope the 16 change is to even out the standing time at either end of the route (14 min at one end and 1 min at the other is a bit rediculous). Not sure what the 23 one's all about as it seems fine, maybe just giving a bit more running time and taking a bit of standing time (lol, they're probably taking a bus off and tightening the arse off it)? X1 will be to do with the changes on 16 and 23 no doubt, as it now interworks with both.

Ah cheers, thank you for the additional information.


The 16 is horrendous, the 7:44am from Hastings Hill is constantly late sometimes by at least 10 minutes.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
22 Jul 2023, 8:40 am #2,220

(22 Jul 2023, 8:22 am)F114TML Not sure about the other areas, but of the Sunderland ones, only the 18 interworks with a scholars now.

One may hope the 16 change is to even out the standing time at either end of the route (14 min at one end and 1 min at the other is a bit rediculous). Not sure what the 23 one's all about as it seems fine, maybe just giving a bit more running time and taking a bit of standing time (lol, they're probably taking a bus off and tightening the arse off it)? X1 will be to do with the changes on 16 and 23 no doubt, as it now interworks with both.

Ah cheers, thank you for the additional information.


The 16 is horrendous, the 7:44am from Hastings Hill is constantly late sometimes by at least 10 minutes.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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