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Jimmi

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05 Sep 2023, 5:25 pm #2,341

(05 Sep 2023, 6:17 am)Dyllan7817 S17 has been awarded back to stagecoach and starts from today

In addition to this, service 6/6A will be starting tomorrow (Wednesday 6th September) but will only be operating between Hurworth - Darlington - Middleton St. George/Teesside Airport until the service is able to fully begin, effectively replacing the 12.

Timetable: https://connectteesvalley.com/data/timet...060923.pdf

Hodgsons were running a school time only service (started today) between the Airport and Hurworth but doubt this will continue now.

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Jimmi

05 Sep 2023, 5:25 pm #2,341

(05 Sep 2023, 6:17 am)Dyllan7817 S17 has been awarded back to stagecoach and starts from today

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Kuyoyo

6,853

05 Sep 2023, 6:03 pm #2,342

(05 Sep 2023, 5:25 pm)Jimmi In addition to this, service 6/6A will be starting tomorrow (Wednesday 6th September) but will only be operating between Hurworth - Darlington - Middleton St. George/Teesside Airport until the service is able to fully begin, effectively replacing the 12.

Timetable: https://connectteesvalley.com/data/timet...060923.pdf

Hodgsons were running a school time only service (started today) between the Airport and Hurworth but doubt this will continue now.

Hodgsons’ scholar turn will run tomorrow only now.

Kuyoyo

05 Sep 2023, 6:03 pm #2,342

(05 Sep 2023, 5:25 pm)Jimmi In addition to this, service 6/6A will be starting tomorrow (Wednesday 6th September) but will only be operating between Hurworth - Darlington - Middleton St. George/Teesside Airport until the service is able to fully begin, effectively replacing the 12.

Timetable: https://connectteesvalley.com/data/timet...060923.pdf

Hodgsons were running a school time only service (started today) between the Airport and Hurworth but doubt this will continue now.

Hodgsons’ scholar turn will run tomorrow only now.

Michael

19,175

15 Sep 2023, 3:08 pm #2,343

29th October 2023:

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X24 (X24, X24A) Sunderland Newcastle

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X34 (X34) Newcastle Pilgrim Street South Shields Horsley Hill

Sunday runs up until Christmas?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

15 Sep 2023, 3:08 pm #2,343

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

LVK 404L

994

15 Sep 2023, 4:04 pm #2,344

(15 Sep 2023, 3:08 pm)Michael 29th October 2023:

PB0002404/311
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X24 (X24, X24A) Sunderland Newcastle

PB0002404/89
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X34 (X34) Newcastle Pilgrim Street South Shields Horsley Hill

Sunday runs up until Christmas?

If it is , they are early startimg.

Usually mid to end of November for starting.

LVK 404L

15 Sep 2023, 4:04 pm #2,344

(15 Sep 2023, 3:08 pm)Michael 29th October 2023:

PB0002404/311
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X24 (X24, X24A) Sunderland Newcastle

PB0002404/89
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X34 (X34) Newcastle Pilgrim Street South Shields Horsley Hill

Sunday runs up until Christmas?

If it is , they are early startimg.

Usually mid to end of November for starting.

MurdnunoC

3,975

15 Sep 2023, 4:47 pm #2,345

(15 Sep 2023, 4:04 pm)ifm001 If it is , they are early startimg.

Usually mid to end of November for starting.

Kind of falls into line with Christmas seemingly starting early this year with supermarkets trying to flog Christmas sweets etc, since mid-August.

It'll be mid-July next year.

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MurdnunoC

15 Sep 2023, 4:47 pm #2,345

(15 Sep 2023, 4:04 pm)ifm001 If it is , they are early startimg.

Usually mid to end of November for starting.

Michael

19,175

15 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm #2,346

29th October -

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (63, 62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 72A, 87, 72) Grainger Street North Walbottle, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

15 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm #2,346

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

pbjd

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15 Sep 2023, 6:57 pm #2,347

(15 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm)Michael 29th October -

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (63, 62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 72A, 87, 72) Grainger Street North Walbottle, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

63 being diverted to Middle Callerton to serve the new housing estate there, 62s will be going into the new housing there last k heard, but could possibly be the 71 serving it extended from the current chapel park and Hillheads loop. 11 going to chapel house to replace the 63.

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pbjd

15 Sep 2023, 6:57 pm #2,347

(15 Sep 2023, 5:55 pm)Michael 29th October -

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (63, 62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71728788 (71, 72A, 87, 72) Grainger Street North Walbottle, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

Michael

19,175

15 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm #2,348

29th October

PB0002404/278
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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X82 (X82) Eldon Square Throckley

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X87X88 (X88, X87) Eldon Square Eldon Square

PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (63, 62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 115 (115) Newbiggin Hall Callerton Academy

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X77X78X79 (X79, X79, X77, X78) Eldon Square Bus Station Ponteland and Darras Hall

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

15 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm #2,348

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

V514DFT

2,249

16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm #2,349

Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm #2,349

Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Kind Regards
Tez

Coastliner700

140

16 Sep 2023, 7:37 pm #2,350

(16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm)V514DFT Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Couldn’t agree more constantly adding more bits to an already overcrowded route! Something needs to change

Coastliner700

16 Sep 2023, 7:37 pm #2,350

(16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm)V514DFT Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Couldn’t agree more constantly adding more bits to an already overcrowded route! Something needs to change

j986986

16 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm #2,351

(15 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm)Michael 29th October

PB0002404/278
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X47 (X47) Newcastle City Centre Kingston Park

PB0002404/14
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X82 (X82) Eldon Square Throckley

PB0002404/15
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X87X88 (X88, X87) Eldon Square Eldon Square

PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (63, 62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/410
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 115 (115) Newbiggin Hall Callerton Academy

PB0002404/4
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22 (22X, 22) Cobalt Throckley

PB0002404/10
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X77X78X79 (X79, X79, X77, X78) Eldon Square Bus Station Ponteland and Darras Hall

Any frequency changes expected?

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(16 Sep 2023, 7:37 pm)Coastliner700 Couldn’t agree more constantly adding more bits to an already overcrowded route! Something needs to change

Hopefully they make them every 10 minutes on weekdays and every 20 on a Sunday because sometimes the single deckers are full before you leave Killingworth…

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Edited 16 Sep 2023, 7:39 pm by j986986.

j986986

16 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm #2,351

(15 Sep 2023, 7:04 pm)Michael 29th October

PB0002404/278
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X47 (X47) Newcastle City Centre Kingston Park

PB0002404/14
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X82 (X82) Eldon Square Throckley

PB0002404/15
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X87X88 (X88, X87) Eldon Square Eldon Square

PB0002404/9
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 6263 (63, 62) Killingworth Throckley, North Walbottle or Middle Callerton

PB0002404/2
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) Chapel House or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/410
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 115 (115) Newbiggin Hall Callerton Academy

PB0002404/4
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22 (22X, 22) Cobalt Throckley

PB0002404/10
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X77X78X79 (X79, X79, X77, X78) Eldon Square Bus Station Ponteland and Darras Hall

Any frequency changes expected?

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(16 Sep 2023, 7:37 pm)Coastliner700 Couldn’t agree more constantly adding more bits to an already overcrowded route! Something needs to change

Hopefully they make them every 10 minutes on weekdays and every 20 on a Sunday because sometimes the single deckers are full before you leave Killingworth…

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Storx

4,611

16 Sep 2023, 9:43 pm #2,352

(16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm)V514DFT Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Isn't it the Newcastle to Chillingham Road side which is congested? Not sure more punters on the Western side will do much difference across Newcastle.

Mind I'm still surprised there's not short runs from Four Lane Ends to West Denton with the 62/63 dropped to every 20 minutes. Living at the Northern side and popping to Killingworth once in a blue moon and seeing them around Quorum they're always dead or single figures.

Storx

16 Sep 2023, 9:43 pm #2,352

(16 Sep 2023, 5:28 pm)V514DFT Well isnt the 62/63 a great idea, NOT

Coastliner700

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17 Sep 2023, 10:54 am #2,353

(16 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm)j986986 Any frequency changes expected?

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Hopefully they make them every 10 minutes on weekdays and every 20 on a Sunday because sometimes the single deckers are full before you leave Killingworth…

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Meanwhile you have a double deck wasted in the 71 weekdays carrying fresh air

Coastliner700

17 Sep 2023, 10:54 am #2,353

(16 Sep 2023, 7:38 pm)j986986 Any frequency changes expected?

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Hopefully they make them every 10 minutes on weekdays and every 20 on a Sunday because sometimes the single deckers are full before you leave Killingworth…

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Meanwhile you have a double deck wasted in the 71 weekdays carrying fresh air

Busu284

219

17 Sep 2023, 11:02 am #2,354

(17 Sep 2023, 10:54 am)Coastliner700 Meanwhile you have a double deck wasted in the 71 weekdays carrying fresh air

How's it a waste when it runs of the 115 then goes back onto the 115. I don't see that a waste

Busu284

17 Sep 2023, 11:02 am #2,354

(17 Sep 2023, 10:54 am)Coastliner700 Meanwhile you have a double deck wasted in the 71 weekdays carrying fresh air

How's it a waste when it runs of the 115 then goes back onto the 115. I don't see that a waste

Coastliner700

140

17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am #2,355

(17 Sep 2023, 11:02 am)Busu284 How's it a waste when it runs of the 115 then goes back onto the 115. I don't see that a waste

During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

Coastliner700

17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am #2,355

(17 Sep 2023, 11:02 am)Busu284 How's it a waste when it runs of the 115 then goes back onto the 115. I don't see that a waste

During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

Busu284

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17 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm #2,356

(17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)Coastliner700 During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

Maybe but it's possible just timing as the 71 isn't that long of a route where as the 62/63 it could be near enough time to start the 115 and the bus could be say at Four Lane Ends on its way to Chapel House or something

Busu284

17 Sep 2023, 12:25 pm #2,356

(17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)Coastliner700 During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

Kuyoyo

6,853

17 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm #2,357

(17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)Coastliner700 During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

The 71/72/87 has been retimed to allow the 115 to work on and off them - that decker board does the morning trip then drops onto the xx04 71s from the city until 2pm when it drops off to do the afternoon 115 while the 71/72/87 drops down to a combined 20 minute frequency before dropping back in at Chapel Park about half 4 to boast it back up to every 15 for the PM peak, while also then ending up on 72s rather than 71s (incidentally the 72 board ends up on 71s during the PM 20 minute frequency and the other 71 board ends up on 72s before going back onto 71s).
If you had the 115 work onto the 62/63, you’d see trips dropped from the timetable on a morning peak and an afternoon to allow vehicles to go and work the 115. Notice that the 1, 39/40 and 62/63 are presently the only major Stagecoach routes that don’t have vehicles dropping off to work schools - I wonder why that is ?

Kuyoyo

17 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm #2,357

(17 Sep 2023, 11:50 am)Coastliner700 During the day it carries nobody operating the 71 surely it would make more sense to run onto a 62/63

Michael

19,175

17 Sep 2023, 1:19 pm #2,358

(17 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm)Kuyoyo The 71/72/87 has been retimed to allow the 115 to work on and off them - that decker board does the morning trip then drops onto the xx04 71s from the city until 2pm when it drops off to do the afternoon 115 while the 71/72/87 drops down to a combined 20 minute frequency before dropping back in at Chapel Park about half 4 to boast it back up to every 15 for the PM peak, while also then ending up on 72s rather than 71s (incidentally the 72 board ends up on 71s during the PM 20 minute frequency and the other 71 board ends up on 72s before going back onto 71s).
If you had the 115 work onto the 62/63, you’d see trips dropped from the timetable on a morning peak and an afternoon to allow vehicles to go and work the 115. Notice that the 1, 39/40 and 62/63 are presently the only major Stagecoach routes that don’t have vehicles dropping off to work schools - I wonder why that is ?

Do you know what the X24 change is?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

17 Sep 2023, 1:19 pm #2,358

(17 Sep 2023, 1:09 pm)Kuyoyo The 71/72/87 has been retimed to allow the 115 to work on and off them - that decker board does the morning trip then drops onto the xx04 71s from the city until 2pm when it drops off to do the afternoon 115 while the 71/72/87 drops down to a combined 20 minute frequency before dropping back in at Chapel Park about half 4 to boast it back up to every 15 for the PM peak, while also then ending up on 72s rather than 71s (incidentally the 72 board ends up on 71s during the PM 20 minute frequency and the other 71 board ends up on 72s before going back onto 71s).
If you had the 115 work onto the 62/63, you’d see trips dropped from the timetable on a morning peak and an afternoon to allow vehicles to go and work the 115. Notice that the 1, 39/40 and 62/63 are presently the only major Stagecoach routes that don’t have vehicles dropping off to work schools - I wonder why that is ?

Do you know what the X24 change is?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Storx

4,611

17 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm #2,359

Ignoring the Throckley extension problem I'm surprised they haven't binned off the 71/72/87 by now and merged them with the 62/63 so you'd end up with something like

62: Throckley to Killingworth
63: Middle Callerton to Killingworth
64: Westerhope area somehow doing as much of the 71/72 as possible to Four Lane Ends

All 3 BPH

There's no need for 4 BPH at the Killingworth end either but the extra bus running through the core would do wonders.

71/72/87 withdrawn.

If you timed the 11 to run with the 62/63 you could have 9 BPH from West Denton to Newcastle aswell and the 36 to run with the 63 you could have 6 BPH from Fenham rather than the 4 BPH and 3 BPH on top of each other.

Storx

17 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm #2,359

V514DFT

2,249

17 Sep 2023, 4:26 pm #2,360

(17 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm)Storx Ignoring the Throckley extension problem I'm surprised they haven't binned off the 71/72/87 by now and merged them with the 62/63 so you'd end up with something like

62: Throckley to Killingworth
63: Middle Callerton to Killingworth
64: Westerhope area somehow doing as much of the 71/72 as possible to Four Lane Ends

All 3 BPH

There's no need for 4 BPH at the Killingworth end either but the extra bus running through the core would do wonders.

71/72/87 withdrawn.

If you timed the 11 to run with the 62/63 you could have 9 BPH from West Denton to Newcastle aswell and the 36 to run with the 63 you could have 6 BPH from Fenham rather than the 4 BPH and 3 BPH on top of each other.

See now the 63 is going to Middle Callerton the 64 could now been restored in full and combined with the 62 and 63 every half an hour 62/63 Killingworth Bus Station- Southgate 30 mins each (15 combined) 63/64 Great Lime Road-West Denton, then they combine with the 62 Four Lane Ends-West Denton i theory providing the same frequency as now and the 62 between Southgate -Quorum- Longbenton, is that really an issue being every 30 mins when theres the 18/335/352/354/355 aswell it also would mean the 11 to Chapel House wouldnt be needed as the 64 used to run Forest Hall Shops- Chapel House

Kind Regards
Tez

V514DFT

17 Sep 2023, 4:26 pm #2,360

(17 Sep 2023, 3:00 pm)Storx Ignoring the Throckley extension problem I'm surprised they haven't binned off the 71/72/87 by now and merged them with the 62/63 so you'd end up with something like

62: Throckley to Killingworth
63: Middle Callerton to Killingworth
64: Westerhope area somehow doing as much of the 71/72 as possible to Four Lane Ends

All 3 BPH

There's no need for 4 BPH at the Killingworth end either but the extra bus running through the core would do wonders.

71/72/87 withdrawn.

If you timed the 11 to run with the 62/63 you could have 9 BPH from West Denton to Newcastle aswell and the 36 to run with the 63 you could have 6 BPH from Fenham rather than the 4 BPH and 3 BPH on top of each other.

Kind Regards
Tez

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