Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Stagecoach North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(14 Feb 2024, 11:54 am)RMF1254 6:00am flights means a 4:00 am check in so you need to get there well before your flight. As has been mentioned of course there’s the problem of getting to the city centre to catch the early bus. I would like to think some research has been done.
(14 Feb 2024, 11:54 am)RMF1254 6:00am flights means a 4:00 am check in so you need to get there well before your flight. As has been mentioned of course there’s the problem of getting to the city centre to catch the early bus. I would like to think some research has been done.
(14 Feb 2024, 11:54 am)RMF1254 6:00am flights means a 4:00 am check in so you need to get there well before your flight. As has been mentioned of course there’s the problem of getting to the city centre to catch the early bus. I would like to think some research has been done.
(14 Feb 2024, 11:54 am)RMF1254 6:00am flights means a 4:00 am check in so you need to get there well before your flight. As has been mentioned of course there’s the problem of getting to the city centre to catch the early bus. I would like to think some research has been done.
(14 Feb 2024, 1:59 pm)Andreos1 Absolutely no chance of me getting to Newgate Street on public transport, to jump on the bus at that time of the morning.
Not because I don't want to, but because it's impossible - unless I book a hotel.
The last time I was at the airport for an early morning flight, I stopped at a hotel at the airport.
(14 Feb 2024, 1:59 pm)Andreos1 Absolutely no chance of me getting to Newgate Street on public transport, to jump on the bus at that time of the morning.
Not because I don't want to, but because it's impossible - unless I book a hotel.
The last time I was at the airport for an early morning flight, I stopped at a hotel at the airport.
(14 Feb 2024, 1:59 pm)Andreos1 Absolutely no chance of me getting to Newgate Street on public transport, to jump on the bus at that time of the morning.
Not because I don't want to, but because it's impossible - unless I book a hotel.
The last time I was at the airport for an early morning flight, I stopped at a hotel at the airport.
(14 Feb 2024, 1:59 pm)Andreos1 Absolutely no chance of me getting to Newgate Street on public transport, to jump on the bus at that time of the morning.
Not because I don't want to, but because it's impossible - unless I book a hotel.
The last time I was at the airport for an early morning flight, I stopped at a hotel at the airport.
(14 Feb 2024, 2:37 pm)Storx The other thing people miss is going on holiday for most is a one time a year trip. Sometimes the taxi is just worth it, unless the bus literally left outside my front door, I couldn't be arsed to lug numerous cases, hope the thing actually turns up and then no doubt go on a magical tour around the world (if it left from here).
If it is literally doing this, I'd much rather see the money running night buses duplicating the Metro network with maybe some small variations in stopping points to serve points of interest ie. Gosforth, Felling or stops between Walkergate and Wallsend etc.
The Airport would naturally be served anyway since it's on the Green Line. I know it happens in London with routes like the N20 which only exist at night and duplicates the Northern Line as I used it once and was surprised how busy it was and frequent aswell. Very bizarre being on full double deckers at 3am at the morning.
(14 Feb 2024, 2:37 pm)Storx The other thing people miss is going on holiday for most is a one time a year trip. Sometimes the taxi is just worth it, unless the bus literally left outside my front door, I couldn't be arsed to lug numerous cases, hope the thing actually turns up and then no doubt go on a magical tour around the world (if it left from here).
If it is literally doing this, I'd much rather see the money running night buses duplicating the Metro network with maybe some small variations in stopping points to serve points of interest ie. Gosforth, Felling or stops between Walkergate and Wallsend etc.
The Airport would naturally be served anyway since it's on the Green Line. I know it happens in London with routes like the N20 which only exist at night and duplicates the Northern Line as I used it once and was surprised how busy it was and frequent aswell. Very bizarre being on full double deckers at 3am at the morning.
(14 Feb 2024, 3:18 pm)deanmachine 100% with you that a night bus on the metro network would be a much better thing to do, don't think Nexus would have the money to do that right now though.
(14 Feb 2024, 3:18 pm)deanmachine 100% with you that a night bus on the metro network would be a much better thing to do, don't think Nexus would have the money to do that right now though.
(14 Feb 2024, 3:27 pm)ASX_Terranova Would 24hr shuttles from non metro areas work aswell maybe from Stanley, Washington etc....
(14 Feb 2024, 3:27 pm)ASX_Terranova Would 24hr shuttles from non metro areas work aswell maybe from Stanley, Washington etc....
I find it mental that the Metro doesn't serve the airport until well after you'd need to be there for first flights. First train from Regent Centre is at 05:18, and anywhere south of that on the line is around 6am.
As an example, the first flights tomorrow are:
0600 Lanzarote
0600 Amsterdam
0605 Paris
From experience, the 0600 Amsterdam tends to be a very busy 737. The Lanzarote is also a 737, so these are hardly flights with a lack of passengers.
For context, in 2022 Newcastle Airport served 4.1 million passengers while Aberdeen Airport served 1.96 million. The latter has a well used bus service which would get you there at 3:27am and 4:32am for first flights at 6am, the former literally has a light rail system attached to it yet nothing running there until around 5:30am.
(14 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm)mb134 I find it mental that the Metro doesn't serve the airport until well after you'd need to be there for first flights. First train from Regent Centre is at 05:18, and anywhere south of that on the line is around 6am.
As an example, the first flights tomorrow are:
0600 Lanzarote
0600 Amsterdam
0605 Paris
From experience, the 0600 Amsterdam tends to be a very busy 737. The Lanzarote is also a 737, so these are hardly flights with a lack of passengers.
For context, in 2022 Newcastle Airport served 4.1 million passengers while Aberdeen Airport served 1.96 million. The latter has a well used bus service which would get you there at 3:27am and 4:32am for first flights at 6am, the former literally has a light rail system attached to it yet nothing running there until around 5:30am.
(14 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm)mb134 I find it mental that the Metro doesn't serve the airport until well after you'd need to be there for first flights. First train from Regent Centre is at 05:18, and anywhere south of that on the line is around 6am.
As an example, the first flights tomorrow are:
0600 Lanzarote
0600 Amsterdam
0605 Paris
From experience, the 0600 Amsterdam tends to be a very busy 737. The Lanzarote is also a 737, so these are hardly flights with a lack of passengers.
For context, in 2022 Newcastle Airport served 4.1 million passengers while Aberdeen Airport served 1.96 million. The latter has a well used bus service which would get you there at 3:27am and 4:32am for first flights at 6am, the former literally has a light rail system attached to it yet nothing running there until around 5:30am.
(13 Feb 2024, 8:29 pm)Storx Good idea on paper but there's a BIG flaw. No-one can get to Newcastle... and no-one lives there either...?
If you need to taxi to Newcastle, then why bother and there's no trains up here either.
(13 Feb 2024, 8:29 pm)Storx Good idea on paper but there's a BIG flaw. No-one can get to Newcastle... and no-one lives there either...?
If you need to taxi to Newcastle, then why bother and there's no trains up here either.
(14 Feb 2024, 10:19 pm)DeltaMan What is the early trips are going to be used by workers on the route to the Airport and later trips can be used towards Newcastle to connect on to early Metros and other first Buses?
Depending on the route, it could be a very handy service actually. Opens the possibility of being able to catch the very early trains from Central Station, assuming it stops within walking distance.
(14 Feb 2024, 10:19 pm)DeltaMan What is the early trips are going to be used by workers on the route to the Airport and later trips can be used towards Newcastle to connect on to early Metros and other first Buses?
Depending on the route, it could be a very handy service actually. Opens the possibility of being able to catch the very early trains from Central Station, assuming it stops within walking distance.
(14 Feb 2024, 10:19 pm)DeltaMan What is the early trips are going to be used by workers on the route to the Airport and later trips can be used towards Newcastle to connect on to early Metros and other first Buses?
Depending on the route, it could be a very handy service actually. Opens the possibility of being able to catch the very early trains from Central Station, assuming it stops within walking distance.
(14 Feb 2024, 10:19 pm)DeltaMan What is the early trips are going to be used by workers on the route to the Airport and later trips can be used towards Newcastle to connect on to early Metros and other first Buses?
Depending on the route, it could be a very handy service actually. Opens the possibility of being able to catch the very early trains from Central Station, assuming it stops within walking distance.
(15 Feb 2024, 1:10 am)stagecoachbusdepot Given they seemingly couldn't turn enough of a profit to make the Newcastle night buses sustainable where they linked the night-time economy with various residential, heavily bussed in daytime, areas I can't see how a route to the airport in the early hours for the minority who can afford to fly but not get a taxi is going to be any more sustainable. Likewise airport staff again presumably already have alternative arrangements - yes there may be a minorty who live on the route or are able to teleport to Newgate St to catch the only bus operating in the city but I'd guess its more of a car sized than bus sized demand.
(15 Feb 2024, 1:10 am)stagecoachbusdepot Given they seemingly couldn't turn enough of a profit to make the Newcastle night buses sustainable where they linked the night-time economy with various residential, heavily bussed in daytime, areas I can't see how a route to the airport in the early hours for the minority who can afford to fly but not get a taxi is going to be any more sustainable. Likewise airport staff again presumably already have alternative arrangements - yes there may be a minorty who live on the route or are able to teleport to Newgate St to catch the only bus operating in the city but I'd guess its more of a car sized than bus sized demand.
(15 Feb 2024, 3:28 am)deanmachine Honestly I still don't think night buses have been properly tried yet here. They're pretty slow burners as it's not something very transparent as few people see them running. I do the late 56s and I still get people shocked when I tell them that I'm finishing at 3am, despite doing them since they were reintroduced nearly 3 years ago. Yeah it's probably not enough to take a risk from a commercial perspective but that doesn't mean that it isn't something that should be tried, start off with connecting the metro network during the night and go from there imo. With the amount of taxis (well mostly Ubers) I have to wade through every night in Newcastle, there is surely a demand there to support a couple of buses.
(15 Feb 2024, 3:28 am)deanmachine Honestly I still don't think night buses have been properly tried yet here. They're pretty slow burners as it's not something very transparent as few people see them running. I do the late 56s and I still get people shocked when I tell them that I'm finishing at 3am, despite doing them since they were reintroduced nearly 3 years ago. Yeah it's probably not enough to take a risk from a commercial perspective but that doesn't mean that it isn't something that should be tried, start off with connecting the metro network during the night and go from there imo. With the amount of taxis (well mostly Ubers) I have to wade through every night in Newcastle, there is surely a demand there to support a couple of buses.
35 will be rerouted via Osborne Road in March nexus have confirmed
https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus...-newcastle
(15 Feb 2024, 3:28 am)deanmachine Honestly I still don't think night buses have been properly tried yet here. They're pretty slow burners as it's not something very transparent as few people see them running. I do the late 56s and I still get people shocked when I tell them that I'm finishing at 3am, despite doing them since they were reintroduced nearly 3 years ago. Yeah it's probably not enough to take a risk from a commercial perspective but that doesn't mean that it isn't something that should be tried, start off with connecting the metro network during the night and go from there imo. With the amount of taxis (well mostly Ubers) I have to wade through every night in Newcastle, there is surely a demand there to support a couple of buses.
(15 Feb 2024, 3:28 am)deanmachine Honestly I still don't think night buses have been properly tried yet here. They're pretty slow burners as it's not something very transparent as few people see them running. I do the late 56s and I still get people shocked when I tell them that I'm finishing at 3am, despite doing them since they were reintroduced nearly 3 years ago. Yeah it's probably not enough to take a risk from a commercial perspective but that doesn't mean that it isn't something that should be tried, start off with connecting the metro network during the night and go from there imo. With the amount of taxis (well mostly Ubers) I have to wade through every night in Newcastle, there is surely a demand there to support a couple of buses.