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Adrian



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21 Sep 2020, 10:38 am #92
(21 Sep 2020, 10:06 am)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54232015

Changes to the way franchising works.

This comment is very interesting: 

"In a statement, Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps said: "The model of privatisation adopted 25 years ago has seen significant rises in passenger numbers, but this pandemic has proven that it is no longer working."
He said the move to a new system would end "uncertainty and confusion about whether you are using the right ticket or the right train company"."


as is this:

"Meanwhile, train companies who operated franchises that were losing money before the pandemic, still owe money to the Department for Transport from those contracts. Although that thorny issue has been kicked down the road and the negotiations over past payments now need to be resolved by December."

I can't see any of these TOCs that owed money being in a position to pay it back, so I think once the support ends, we'll see a lot of contracts handed back. Covid aside, the franchise model just doesn't work.

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21 Sep 2020, 10:38 am #92

(21 Sep 2020, 10:06 am)Andreos1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54232015

Changes to the way franchising works.

This comment is very interesting: 

"In a statement, Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps said: "The model of privatisation adopted 25 years ago has seen significant rises in passenger numbers, but this pandemic has proven that it is no longer working."
He said the move to a new system would end "uncertainty and confusion about whether you are using the right ticket or the right train company"."


as is this:

"Meanwhile, train companies who operated franchises that were losing money before the pandemic, still owe money to the Department for Transport from those contracts. Although that thorny issue has been kicked down the road and the negotiations over past payments now need to be resolved by December."

I can't see any of these TOCs that owed money being in a position to pay it back, so I think once the support ends, we'll see a lot of contracts handed back. Covid aside, the franchise model just doesn't work.


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Railways in General - by R852 PRG - 24 Jul 2014, 5:21 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 25 Jul 2014, 2:17 pm
RE: Railways in General - by R852 PRG - 25 Jul 2014, 2:42 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Tom - 25 Jul 2014, 3:04 pm
RE: Railways in General - by R852 PRG - 25 Jul 2014, 3:08 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Tom - 25 Jul 2014, 3:09 pm
RE: Railways in General - by R852 PRG - 25 Jul 2014, 3:14 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Tom - 25 Jul 2014, 3:16 pm
RE: Railways in General - by R852 PRG - 25 Jul 2014, 3:18 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Dan - 25 Jul 2014, 4:50 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 23 Aug 2014, 10:46 am
RE: Railways in General - by citaro5284 - 11 Sep 2014, 4:56 pm
RE: Railways in General - by BusLoverMum - 24 Sep 2015, 5:51 pm
RE: Railways in General - by northern156 - 24 Sep 2015, 6:43 pm
RE: Railways in General - by BusLoverMum - 24 Sep 2015, 6:45 pm
RE: Railways in General - by NK53 TKT - 24 Sep 2015, 6:48 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 24 Sep 2015, 6:51 pm
RE: Railways in General - by DanPicken - 26 Sep 2015, 9:10 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 16 Dec 2015, 8:26 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 02 Jan 2016, 12:56 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 02 Jan 2016, 1:06 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 04 Jan 2016, 7:20 pm
RE: Railways in General - by S813 FVK - 08 Jan 2016, 9:37 pm
RE: Railways in General - by BusLoverMum - 24 Feb 2016, 9:05 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 18 Feb 2016, 8:05 am
RE: Railways in General - by omnicity4659 - 25 Feb 2016, 9:41 am
RE: Railways in General - by Jimmi - 25 Feb 2016, 9:28 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 25 Feb 2016, 10:19 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 26 Feb 2016, 8:10 am
RE: Railways in General - by Jimmi - 26 Feb 2016, 11:41 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 03 Aug 2016, 8:37 am
RE: Railways in General - by S813 FVK - 07 Aug 2016, 7:39 pm
RE: Railways in General - by northern156 - 08 Aug 2016, 7:51 pm
RE: Railways in General - by 8222 - 09 Aug 2016, 8:19 am
RE: Railways in General - by northern156 - 09 Aug 2016, 8:39 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 10 Aug 2016, 6:49 am
RE: Railways in General - by NK53 TKT - 10 Aug 2016, 10:06 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 16 Aug 2016, 6:38 am
RE: Railways in General - by northern156 - 16 Aug 2016, 11:06 am
RE: Railways in General - by citaro5284 - 18 Aug 2016, 5:20 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 09 Sep 2016, 6:05 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 13 Oct 2016, 7:35 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 18 Oct 2016, 12:53 pm
RE: Railways in General - by 8222 - 07 Nov 2016, 8:45 pm
RE: Railways in General - by northern156 - 20 Nov 2016, 12:15 am
RE: Railways in General - by James101 - 20 Nov 2016, 12:48 am
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 20 Nov 2016, 6:59 pm
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RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 20 Nov 2016, 9:31 am
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 14 Jan 2017, 11:39 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 17 Jan 2017, 9:17 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 05 Feb 2017, 1:46 pm
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 13 Jul 2017, 3:18 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 28 Jul 2017, 2:16 pm
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 14 Aug 2017, 9:47 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 16 Aug 2017, 11:18 pm
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RE: Railways in General - by 8222 - 12 Oct 2017, 8:10 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 30 Oct 2017, 10:21 am
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 02 Mar 2018, 10:21 am
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 26 Feb 2019, 8:00 pm
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RE: Railways in General - by Michael - 01 May 2019, 6:42 am
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 16 Oct 2019, 2:51 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 21 Sep 2020, 10:06 am
RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 21 Sep 2020, 10:38 am
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 21 Sep 2020, 12:20 pm
RE: Railways in General - by citaro5284 - 18 Oct 2020, 5:24 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 28 Jun 2021, 2:34 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 28 Jun 2021, 2:57 pm
RE: Railways in General - by idiot - 02 Jul 2021, 8:40 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Storx - 02 Jul 2021, 11:34 pm
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RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 17 Jan 2022, 6:25 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Adrian - 17 Jan 2022, 8:30 pm
RE: Railways in General - by Andreos1 - 03 Mar 2022, 8:02 am
RE: Railways in General - by omnicity4659 - 08 Apr 2022, 9:48 am
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